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jaybud · 08-04-2008, 09:11 PM

This is a newbie + first time trying this + out of daylight question.

I have a temp gauge in the lower, right-most spot on my 69 blazer. I've been able to remove the nut holding on the sending tube. At this point, is it really 3 screws holding the gauge in place, from the rear, as the service manual implies.

I"m quoting 'Oil and/or Air Pressure Gauge Replacement' on page 12-14 on a reprinted manual:

"Remove three (3) rear cover retaining screws. Tip cover and gauge assembly and remove from instrument cluster housing."

Indyuke · 08-04-2008, 09:47 PM

Are you trying to get it out?

Sammy · 08-04-2008, 10:39 PM

That is correct. Upon reinstalling use caution to not cross thread the copper line. Or prepare for oil leakage.

Andy4639 · 08-04-2008, 10:48 PM

The best of my knowlege you have to remove the whole cluster to remove it. I have been wrong before and if I am some one will correct me I'm sure!!!!

Indyuke · 08-05-2008, 01:01 AM

I think andy's right. I've always had to remove the inst cluster, take the face plate off, then unscrew the gauge from behind.

jaybud · 08-05-2008, 07:24 AM

I had originally thought that I need to remove the backing plate screws first, but, from these responses, it seems to me that my problem may simply be that the oil pressure tube is stuck in the back of the gauge?

Does that seem correct to anyone?

jaybud · 08-05-2008, 07:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Indyuke

Are you trying to get it out?

At the moment, I'm just trying to remove the instrument cluster. Once that's out, I'd like to remove the gauge. I didn't think that I had to pull the gauge out, first, in order to remove the cluster.

Is that clear?

Andy4639 · 08-05-2008, 08:14 AM

None of this is very clear. You keep jumping from one to the other. The oil line has to be removed for the cluster to come out as does the speedo cable and wiring harness and ground.
The oil line has nothing to do with the Temp gauge, except it is inside the same part of the cluster. You may beable to take the backside of it off but with the oil line hooked up it's going to be pretty hard to do.

jaybud · 08-05-2008, 01:45 PM

You are right - I am jumping around a bit. Please let me restate.

I am trying to remove the instrument cluster on a 1969 Chevy. Currently, the last piece holding it in is the oil pressure gauge in the right-most spot. I have removed the 9/16 nut that seems to secure the back of the gauge to the the copper(?) line coming from the sensor. Should I be able to remove the line from the back of the gauge, now? Have I reached a point where penetrating oil and force are what is required?

Alternatively, I was thinking of trying to remove the backing plate, leaving the gauge connected to the line, so that I could have the instrument cluster assembly free, leaving me more room to work on removing the gauge.

I have a reproduction under-dash wiring harness that I need to install for a variety of reasons (previous owner's CB removal, mice, attempted hot-wire, etc).

Thanks for the many responses. I am grateful.

lts70 · 08-05-2008, 01:53 PM

I have left the oil pressure part of the gauge installed while removing the rest of the cluster before so it can be done. Just unscrew the screws that hold the access plate to the rest of the cluster. I did this so I could still run the truck while I installed an alarm system with out getting oil all over the place when the motor was running. It is nice to have the option of moving the truck if you need to while working on it, then you don’t have to buy a cap off fitting.

08-04-2008, 09:11 PM	#1
jaybud Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Central Virginia Posts: 4	Temp Gauge ? - Simple This is a newbie + first time trying this + out of daylight question. I have a temp gauge in the lower, right-most spot on my 69 blazer. I've been able to remove the nut holding on the sending tube. At this point, is it really 3 screws holding the gauge in place, from the rear, as the service manual implies. I"m quoting 'Oil and/or Air Pressure Gauge Replacement' on page 12-14 on a reprinted manual: "Remove three (3) rear cover retaining screws. Tip cover and gauge assembly and remove from instrument cluster housing."

08-04-2008, 09:47 PM	#2
Indyuke Registered User Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Lake Stevens, WA Posts: 623	Re: Temp Gauge ? - Simple Are you trying to get it out?

08-04-2008, 10:39 PM	#3
Sammy Registered User Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Bonne Terre, Mo Posts: 3,005	Re: Temp Gauge ? - Simple That is correct. Upon reinstalling use caution to not cross thread the copper line. Or prepare for oil leakage. __________________ '69 Chevy Long Fleet & '71 GMC Short Step & Project "ODD BALL" "You can wash a pig, soak it in most expensive perfume. In the end it is still just a pig." ODD BALL build thread http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=478629"

08-04-2008, 10:48 PM	#4
Andy4639 Old member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Liberty, & Garden City S.C. , U.S. Posts: 19,936	Re: Temp Gauge ? - Simple The best of my knowlege you have to remove the whole cluster to remove it. I have been wrong before and if I am some one will correct me I'm sure!!!! __________________ 1971 LWB Custom, 6.0LS & 4L80E, Speedhut.com GPS speedometer & gauges with A/C. 20" Boss 338's Grey wheels 4 wheel disc brakes. My Driver Seeing the USA in a 71 Upstate SC GM Truck Club 2013,14 and 2016 Hot Rod Pour Tour http://upstategmtrucks.com/ Get out and drive the truck this summer and have some fun! It sucks not being able to hear! LWB trucks rule, if you don't think so measure your SWB! After talking to tech support at Air Lift I have found out that the kit I need is 60811. Per the measurements I gave them. Ride height of truck inside spring and inside diameter of springs.

08-05-2008, 01:01 AM	#5
Indyuke Registered User Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Lake Stevens, WA Posts: 623	Re: Temp Gauge ? - Simple I think andy's right. I've always had to remove the inst cluster, take the face plate off, then unscrew the gauge from behind.

08-05-2008, 07:24 AM	#6
jaybud Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Central Virginia Posts: 4	Re: Temp Gauge ? - Simple I had originally thought that I need to remove the backing plate screws first, but, from these responses, it seems to me that my problem may simply be that the oil pressure tube is stuck in the back of the gauge? Does that seem correct to anyone?

08-05-2008, 08:14 AM	#8
Andy4639 Old member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Liberty, & Garden City S.C. , U.S. Posts: 19,936	Re: Temp Gauge ? - Simple None of this is very clear. You keep jumping from one to the other. The oil line has to be removed for the cluster to come out as does the speedo cable and wiring harness and ground. The oil line has nothing to do with the Temp gauge, except it is inside the same part of the cluster. You may beable to take the backside of it off but with the oil line hooked up it's going to be pretty hard to do. __________________ 1971 LWB Custom, 6.0LS & 4L80E, Speedhut.com GPS speedometer & gauges with A/C. 20" Boss 338's Grey wheels 4 wheel disc brakes. My Driver Seeing the USA in a 71 Upstate SC GM Truck Club 2013,14 and 2016 Hot Rod Pour Tour http://upstategmtrucks.com/ Get out and drive the truck this summer and have some fun! It sucks not being able to hear! LWB trucks rule, if you don't think so measure your SWB! After talking to tech support at Air Lift I have found out that the kit I need is 60811. Per the measurements I gave them. Ride height of truck inside spring and inside diameter of springs.

08-05-2008, 01:45 PM	#9
jaybud Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Central Virginia Posts: 4	Re: Temp Gauge ? - Simple You are right - I am jumping around a bit. Please let me restate. I am trying to remove the instrument cluster on a 1969 Chevy. Currently, the last piece holding it in is the oil pressure gauge in the right-most spot. I have removed the 9/16 nut that seems to secure the back of the gauge to the the copper(?) line coming from the sensor. Should I be able to remove the line from the back of the gauge, now? Have I reached a point where penetrating oil and force are what is required? Alternatively, I was thinking of trying to remove the backing plate, leaving the gauge connected to the line, so that I could have the instrument cluster assembly free, leaving me more room to work on removing the gauge. I have a reproduction under-dash wiring harness that I need to install for a variety of reasons (previous owner's CB removal, mice, attempted hot-wire, etc). Thanks for the many responses. I am grateful.

08-05-2008, 01:53 PM	#10
lts70 1970 Daily Driver Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Glenns Ferry IDAHO Posts: 1,037	Re: Temp Gauge ? - Simple I have left the oil pressure part of the gauge installed while removing the rest of the cluster before so it can be done. Just unscrew the screws that hold the access plate to the rest of the cluster. I did this so I could still run the truck while I installed an alarm system with out getting oil all over the place when the motor was running. It is nice to have the option of moving the truck if you need to while working on it, then you don’t have to buy a cap off fitting. __________________ It's not truly yours if you didn't build it yourself or if you don't do your own maintenance. Last edited by lts70; 08-05-2008 at 01:54 PM.



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