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LOW DOUGH · 08-29-2008, 01:34 PM

I have two questions about this coupler/rag joint.

1. What is that wire in the center for? I see it connects a bolt and a pin, but why?

2. Are there two different size couplers for the 2wd, w/ power steering?

I am putting a 69 tilt in a 71 that had manual and I switched it over to power long ago. I used a gear box from a junk yard truck. I don't know what year it was, but it was a 67 -72.. I have two different sizes????

Maybe I can clean it up tomorrow so I can get a better pic....

**LockDoc** · 08-29-2008, 02:24 PM

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I would guess it is a ground for the steering column shaft for the horn.

LockDoc

sneakysnake · 08-29-2008, 02:49 PM

Yes, ground strap.

LOW DOUGH · 08-29-2008, 02:56 PM

Makes sense....

What about the 2 different size couplers?????

pickupman · 08-29-2008, 08:41 PM

Manual and Power is different, 2wd and 4wd are the same

LOW DOUGH · 09-02-2008, 09:30 AM

Hmmmmmm,

The truck was a manual. I put power on it. The tilt column came from a P/S truck. The gearbox I put on when I converted a long time ago was from a 2wd.

I just don't know which one to order. I will have to get more/better pics to try and explain what I have/done.

Everyone’s help is very much appreciated.

ChevLoRay · 09-02-2008, 09:35 AM

Devil's Advocate here....

If you have two rag joints, with one that fits the column and one that fits the steering gear box, what is the possiblility that you can take the two, and make one that will do what you need to do? The joint attaches to the flange on the gearbox. The studs hold the flange on the column. Is it doable?

LOW DOUGH · 09-02-2008, 09:40 AM

True. But the bolts are messed up on the one i need. I was also trying to replace the rag joint (rubber part) in it. How do you take the da** thing apart? How do yo uget the "cap studs" or what ever they are called off? I am stumped unless I just cut them off????? I don't know.

How do you take it apart?

sneakysnake · 09-02-2008, 10:26 AM

Pull the bolts to separate the rag joint. Order the one for the type gearbox you have.IIRC,Manuals had a closer bolt pattern then the power.

LOW DOUGH · 09-02-2008, 11:03 AM

What about the 2 that are not bolts? well, they don't look like bolts. How do they come apart? On the right and left of this pic.

sneakysnake · 09-02-2008, 11:42 AM

If yours is a rivit then the whole thing can be replaced, or some kits let you grind them off and give you ones with nuts on the back

http://www.lmctruck.com/ICATALOG/CB/full.aspx?Page=137

LOW DOUGH · 09-02-2008, 11:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sneakysnake

If yours is a rivit then the whole thing can be replaced, or some kits let you grind them off and give you ones with nuts on the back

http://www.lmctruck.com/ICATALOG/CB/full.aspx?Page=137

Yeah, I was thinking I would have to grind them off. I don't want to pay $50 for a new one. I will cut them off. I already bought the replacment rag joint.

LMC is the one I was looking at. The years mess me up. I have a 71 w/power. Putting a 69 in it. Column that is.

ChevLoRay · 09-02-2008, 12:00 PM

I'd suggest calling their 800 number, but my experience with doing that with LMC is getting someone who just takes orders and doesn't know anything else but how to access the item in a computer.

What about one of the vendors on the board?? There are a bunch of them. Go to the link at the home page. These guys know these trucks and they can talk them while walking at the same time. Don't give up without making that call.....

LOW DOUGH · 09-02-2008, 12:04 PM

Thanks ChevLoRay

LOW DOUGH · 09-02-2008, 04:28 PM

I am going to grind those 2 pins off.

90\87Formula · 09-02-2008, 06:41 PM

The two pins/rivets are threaded; at least they were on mine.

pickupman · 09-02-2008, 07:40 PM

these are the ones I sell for power steering box.. If it is a power steering box it will fit the manual boxes are different. steering column should not matter.

LOW DOUGH · 09-03-2008, 09:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 9087Formula

The two pins/rivets are threaded; at least they were on mine.

Thanks... I almost cut it last night but my baby girl was sleeping. Then I came inside and saw this. Just didn't reply till this morrning.

That new coupler looks nice. It's all clean and stuff

LOW DOUGH · 09-04-2008, 09:00 AM

Are the couplers the same for a 73' and up 2wd with p/s?

08-29-2008, 01:34 PM	#1
LOW DOUGH I'M TRUCK CRAZY! Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Sachse, TEXAS Posts: 1,737	coupler/rag joint?? I have two questions about this coupler/rag joint. 1. What is that wire in the center for? I see it connects a bolt and a pin, but why? 2. Are there two different size couplers for the 2wd, w/ power steering? I am putting a 69 tilt in a 71 that had manual and I switched it over to power long ago. I used a gear box from a junk yard truck. I don't know what year it was, but it was a 67 -72.. I have two different sizes???? Maybe I can clean it up tomorrow so I can get a better pic....

08-29-2008, 02:24 PM	#2
LockDoc The Older Generation Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Montezuma, Iowa Posts: 25,587	Re: coupler/rag joint?? - I would guess it is a ground for the steering column shaft for the horn. LockDoc __________________ Leon Locksmith, Specializing In Antique Trucks, Automobiles, & Motorcycles (My Dually Pickup Project Thread) http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=829820 -

08-29-2008, 02:49 PM	#3
sneakysnake It's a catastrophic success. Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 2,077	Re: coupler/rag joint?? Yes, ground strap.

08-29-2008, 02:56 PM	#4
LOW DOUGH I'M TRUCK CRAZY! Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Sachse, TEXAS Posts: 1,737	Re: coupler/rag joint?? Makes sense.... What about the 2 different size couplers?????

08-29-2008, 08:41 PM	#5
pickupman Registered User Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Greeneville, TN Posts: 3,096	Re: coupler/rag joint?? Manual and Power is different, 2wd and 4wd are the same __________________ atheystruck@comcast.net 67 1/2 ton 4wd custom cab 72 1/2 ton 4wd super cheyenne 71 1/2 BB super cheyenne shortbed

09-02-2008, 09:30 AM	#6
LOW DOUGH I'M TRUCK CRAZY! Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Sachse, TEXAS Posts: 1,737	Re: coupler/rag joint?? Hmmmmmm, The truck was a manual. I put power on it. The tilt column came from a P/S truck. The gearbox I put on when I converted a long time ago was from a 2wd. I just don't know which one to order. I will have to get more/better pics to try and explain what I have/done. Everyone’s help is very much appreciated.

09-02-2008, 09:35 AM	#7
ChevLoRay Old Skool Club Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Benton, AR "The Heart of Arkansas" Posts: 10,880	Re: coupler/rag joint?? Devil's Advocate here.... If you have two rag joints, with one that fits the column and one that fits the steering gear box, what is the possiblility that you can take the two, and make one that will do what you need to do? The joint attaches to the flange on the gearbox. The studs hold the flange on the column. Is it doable? __________________ Member Nr. 2770 '96 GMC Sportside; 4.3/SLT - Daily driven....constantly needs washed. '69 C-10 SWB; 350/TH400 - in limbo The older I get, the better I was.

09-02-2008, 09:40 AM	#8
LOW DOUGH I'M TRUCK CRAZY! Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Sachse, TEXAS Posts: 1,737	Re: coupler/rag joint?? True. But the bolts are messed up on the one i need. I was also trying to replace the rag joint (rubber part) in it. How do you take the da** thing apart? How do yo uget the "cap studs" or what ever they are called off? I am stumped unless I just cut them off????? I don't know. How do you take it apart?

09-02-2008, 10:26 AM	#9
sneakysnake It's a catastrophic success. Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 2,077	Re: coupler/rag joint?? Pull the bolts to separate the rag joint. Order the one for the type gearbox you have.IIRC,Manuals had a closer bolt pattern then the power. Last edited by sneakysnake; 09-02-2008 at 10:33 AM.

09-02-2008, 11:03 AM	#10
LOW DOUGH I'M TRUCK CRAZY! Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Sachse, TEXAS Posts: 1,737	Re: coupler/rag joint?? What about the 2 that are not bolts? well, they don't look like bolts. How do they come apart? On the right and left of this pic.

09-02-2008, 11:42 AM	#11
sneakysnake It's a catastrophic success. Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 2,077	Re: coupler/rag joint?? If yours is a rivit then the whole thing can be replaced, or some kits let you grind them off and give you ones with nuts on the back http://www.lmctruck.com/ICATALOG/CB/full.aspx?Page=137

09-02-2008, 12:00 PM	#13
ChevLoRay Old Skool Club Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Benton, AR "The Heart of Arkansas" Posts: 10,880	Re: coupler/rag joint?? I'd suggest calling their 800 number, but my experience with doing that with LMC is getting someone who just takes orders and doesn't know anything else but how to access the item in a computer. What about one of the vendors on the board?? There are a bunch of them. Go to the link at the home page. These guys know these trucks and they can talk them while walking at the same time. Don't give up without making that call..... __________________ Member Nr. 2770 '96 GMC Sportside; 4.3/SLT - Daily driven....constantly needs washed. '69 C-10 SWB; 350/TH400 - in limbo The older I get, the better I was.

09-02-2008, 12:04 PM	#14
LOW DOUGH I'M TRUCK CRAZY! Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Sachse, TEXAS Posts: 1,737	Re: coupler/rag joint?? Thanks ChevLoRay

09-02-2008, 04:28 PM	#15
LOW DOUGH I'M TRUCK CRAZY! Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Sachse, TEXAS Posts: 1,737	Re: coupler/rag joint?? I am going to grind those 2 pins off.

09-02-2008, 06:41 PM	#16
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09-02-2008, 07:40 PM	#17
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