Driving on front brakes only

[theyammieguy]

So I did the first real inspection on my new truck this morning and this is what I found.
Left rear pads are gone, just bare metal.
Right rear fell apart when I pulled the drum off.
All the metal brackets on the right side are chewed up and cannot be reused.
I've never driven a vehicle with manual brakes so I thought having to press real hard on the pedal was normal.
Also a couple other pictures.
Noticed, the tranns lines are leaking at thr radiator.
I did wire up the wiper motor so know I can see when it rains.

[dave2953]

That sucks, but at least you discovered it before something catastrophic happened. My trans. lines leaked from that same spot, but I couldn't afford new ones. Instead, I found a piece of flared tubing that the correct size threaded nuts on it (I think it was brake line), cut it in half and threaded either end into the radiator. Then I just used rubber hose to attach the new line to the old line and no more leaks. You probably already knew about this, but I figured I would tell you anyway. Good luck on your brake job...at least the parts aren't crazy expensive.

[theyammieguy]

Originally Posted by dave2953

That sucks, but at least you discovered it before something catastrophic happened. My trans. lines leaked from that same spot, but I couldn't afford new ones. Instead, I found a piece of flared tubing that the correct size threaded nuts on it (I think it was brake line), cut it in half and threaded either end into the radiator. Then I just used rubber hose to attach the new line to the old line and no more leaks. You probably already knew about this, but I figured I would tell you anyway. Good luck on your brake job...at least the parts aren't crazy expensive.

I spent all my cash on christmas presents today and only had $40 left so I was able to get the shoes and spring kit. next Friday I will get the drums and all the brackets. Yes, I was one of the nuts at Walmart at 5am. Lol

I'll buy some tubing and make my own if a little teflon tape does'nt fix it.

Need to go to work and use the torch so I can heat up the u-bolt nuts on the torsion bars and tighten them up.

need new bushings just about everywhere.

Can't complain though, I knew what I was getting into when I bought it. Just wish there wasnt this much rust. I dont have the tools to repair it nor the money to have someone do it for me.

[Tx Firefighter]

No teflon tape on the cooler lines !

That's a flared fitting. Teflon tape is for pipe threads only. The flared fitting is what seals, not the nut around the flare.

Fix the problem right. Either tighten it up or repair the flare with a flaring tool.

[theyammieguy]

Originally Posted by Tx Firefighter

No teflon tape on the cooler lines !

That's a flared fitting. Teflon tape is for pipe threads only. The flared fitting is what seals, not the nut around the flare.

Fix the problem right. Either tighten it up or repair the flare with a flaring tool.

I meant where the brass fitting goes into the radiator

[cdowns]

dont know what ubolts you plan on tightening //but i do know theres no torsion bars in the truck

[theyammieguy]

Originally Posted by cdowns

dont know what ubolts you plan on tightening //but i do know theres no torsion bars in the truck

Sorry, I don't know the proper terminology. The bars that run from the axle to the frame.

[N2TRUX]

Originally Posted by theyammieguy

Sorry, I don't know the proper terminology. The bars that run from the axle to the frame.

Those are called trailing arms. Just so you know torsion bars are found in front suspensions.

[passthebuck]

I knew a guy who had a 68 Satellite & 3 of the 4 brakes were seized. The only one that worked was drivers-side front & it was either locked or not grabbing at all - no in between!

[Sport/Truck]

Originally Posted by Tx Firefighter

No teflon tape on the cooler lines !

That's a flared fitting. Teflon tape is for pipe threads only. The flared fitting is what seals, not the nut around the flare.

Fix the problem right. Either tighten it up or repair the flare with a flaring tool.

Originally Posted by theyammieguy

I meant where the brass fitting goes into the radiator

That's What Tx Firefighter is talking about, teflon won't help.
s/t

[Shane]

Teflon tape is NOT designed as a sealant either. It's proper use is as a lubricant in order to achieve the proper torque readings.

[mr48chev]

Unscrew the cooler line fittings from the radiator and take a close look at them to make sure that the flairs are in good shape and true and not cracked. Sometimes if the line is allowed to vibrate it will crack right at the base of the flair.
Also take a look at the fitting in the radiator to make sure that it is in good shape.

[50MOTORHEAD]

Shane
Teflon tape IS A SEALER. I don't know where you are getting your information,but you are incorrect,it is a sealer. I guess I don't know what I am talking about but I think that being in the plumbing supply business for 32 years ,might give me some credibility. The quickest way to snap off a threaded part is to torque it after the use of teflon. You have to decrease your torque settings if you are using teflon.-KB

[theyammieguy]

Originally Posted by N2TRUX

Those are called trailing arms. Just so you know torsion bars are found in front suspensions.

AHH, thanks.

[theyammieguy]

Originally Posted by 50MOTORHEAD

Shane
Teflon tape IS A SEALER. I don't know where you are getting your information,but you are incorrect,it is a sealer. I guess I don't know what I am talking about but I think that being in the plumbing supply business for 32 years ,might give me some credibility. The quickest way to snap off a threaded part is to torque it after the use of teflon. You have to decrease your torque settings if you are using teflon.-KB

Yeah, Im a tractor/trailer mechanic and teflon tape is an everyday thing in my shop.

[Shane]

Originally Posted by 50MOTORHEAD

Shane
Teflon tape IS A SEALER. I don't know where you are getting your information,but you are incorrect,it is a sealer. I guess I don't know what I am talking about but I think that being in the plumbing supply business for 32 years ,might give me some credibility. The quickest way to snap off a threaded part is to torque it after the use of teflon. You have to decrease your torque settings if you are using teflon.-KB

Telfon tape is NOT a sealant, it is a lubricant that allows the threads to turn to a deeper "engagement" which causes a seating action for a seal. Consider the other common applications of Teflon ... it is used to make things "slippery." (frying pans, oil additives, etc)

Not to start a pissing match with you but I worked for Parker Hannifin for 12 years as a manufacturing engineer. They are only the largest manufacturer of pneumatic, hydraulic and pipe fittings on the planet. I too know a little about the sealing actions of metal to metal fittings.

One of the defining characteristics of PTFE is how good it is at defeating friction. The use of PTFE tape in tapered pipe threads performs a lubricating function, which more easily allows the threads to be screwed together, to the point of deformation, which is what creates the majority, if not all, of the seal.

[50MOTORHEAD]

Then maybe you can explain to me why you can cross cut a grove(with a file)on a pipe thread and then use a cap,and the caped pipe will hold 200 lbs of air pressure.It has to be sealing,not lubricating,to do that.If you recall,when teflon first came out,that was one of the tests that they performed to sell the buyers on teflon.
If all you had to do is lubricate pipe to make it seal,then why don't pipe-fitters use synthetic oil on threads.
If you worked for parker han. you know that pipe threads ,when looked at under magnification ,have a lot of groves and lines where the dies stop.Teflon reduces friction.You want MORE friction if you want the threads to work against each other to reduce flaws in the joining surfaces.Lubrication may be ONE of the characteristics of teflon,but it sure isn't the Only thing that makes it seal.Furthermore,teflon wouldn't pass code if it didn't have sealing properties.
Sorry to hyjack the original purpose of this discussion-KB
PS,,Last time I checked,,Parker was not even close to being the largest manufacturer of pipe fittings on the planet .
Not a pissin contest-as you call it. I just didn't agree with what you had to say,,,STILL DON'T.
Your quote says it all; ONE OF THE CHARACTERISTICS of ......

[Shane]

PM sent.

[WIDESIDE72]

rowr!!! cat fight!!!

[Sport/Truck]

I found this on wikipedia
Looks like Shane wins.....
s/t
"One of the defining characteristics of PTFE is how good it is at defeating friction. The use of PTFE tape in tapered pipe threads performs a lubricating function, which more easily allows the threads to be screwed together, to the point of deformation, which is what creates the majority, if not all, of the seal."

[Lugnut64052]

rowr!!! cat fight!!!

Kinda interested to see how this turns out. I'm with Shane-- always understood tape to be a lubricant. A pipe thread by design is a self-sealing thread. The tape makes it easier to screw it together.

And Tx Firefighter is right. Take a look at the flare to see where it's leaking. All the threaded nut is doing is holding the flares together.

[theyammieguy]

All I know, is if I did'nt use teflon tape, I would have tractors that would'nt build up air pressure and trailers that leaked product.

[hotrodhomi]

Originally Posted by shane

teflon tape is not designed as a sealant either. It's proper use is as a lubricant in order to achieve the proper torque readings.

ftw