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drewfever1020 · 01-14-2009, 09:34 PM

ok i got home and installed my aftermarket oil pressure gauge.
so i turned on my truck to go put gas and as im going i noticed my fuel and my speedometer gauge not working, so i chekd my light and no lights on the dash but my light are working outside. so i think its afuse so i check the fuses and they are good!
so whats going on? im gettin angry now i cant see how fast im going now!

hilandr452 · 01-14-2009, 09:36 PM

I'm thinking maybe you unplugged the wiring harness to the instrument panel?

drewfever1020 · 01-14-2009, 09:40 PM

no its plugged in

**Green Machine** · 01-14-2009, 09:46 PM

Gauges not working, or you can't see them because the dash lights don't work ?

drewfever1020 · 01-14-2009, 09:58 PM

there not working at all!
they were fine then all of a sudden, i think i have a short in my truck!
were can i get a complete harness for my truck?
its a 71

70clone · 01-14-2009, 10:10 PM

try wiggling the headlight switch also turn the knob back and forth a few times

**Green Machine** · 01-14-2009, 10:11 PM

Speedometer is all mechanical, that should still work even if you unhooked all the wires. Gas guage has a brown wire that goes to the tank sender, check that and make sure it is plugged into the correct place in the fuse block.

drewfever1020 · 01-14-2009, 10:16 PM

i tried that!
when i turn my lights on my fuel gauges moves to empty but its not working at all!
not even my speedometer

drewfever1020 · 01-14-2009, 10:17 PM

my speedometer aint working at all!
the gas sending unit is plugged rite and still nothing

4x4s4allie · 01-14-2009, 10:22 PM

my truck does the same, but mice found my truck their home for awhile ... take apart your dash, make sure your wires aren't crossed ... that will cause what you're saying ... also, try turning your headlight switch ALL the way to the right ... that's what i've gotta do for my dash lights and gauges to work ... but that was after i straightened some wires out ...

drewfever1020 · 01-14-2009, 10:33 PM

how can i turn my switch to the rite if it doesnt even go that way

**Green Machine** · 01-14-2009, 11:26 PM

Well if you are really pissed, you need to calm down, because you will never get anything done being pissed. Having said that, you have three problems here. 1. gas gauge not working. 2. dash light not working. 3. Speedo not working.

Take the easy one first. I suspect the speedometer cable is either broken or unhooked at one end or the other. If the cable is not broken, unscrew it from the speedometer head, drive down the street very carefully, and check to see if the cable is spining with your fingers. If the cable spins then the speedo head is bad, if no spin,then there is a problem with one of the speedo gears in the tranny.

Do you have park lights ? I think they run off the same circut as the dash lights. I also suspect a bad ground the gauge cluster. Remove the plug to the cluster, and make sure it is clean and in properly.

lts70 · 01-14-2009, 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by drewfever1020

i tried that!
when i turn my lights on my fuel gauges moves to empty but its not working at all!
not even my speedometer

The speedo not working is a completely different issue from the fuel or any other gauge,they are not related. Make sure you screwed your speedo cable all of the way on and that it is not cross threaded.If it is you have possibly snapped your speedo cable.

Double check your where your wire harness plugs into your gauge cluster. make sure it is all of the way plugged in and not cock-eyed or reversed.

Good Luck.

Longhorn Man · 01-15-2009, 12:34 AM

you need to ground the panel. The fact that the fuel guage moves when you hit the lights tells me this.
Your speedo issue is due to either not being hooked up, being broken, or, when you screwed it back on,you didn't get the cable into the hole properly and it never actually plugged in.

**special-K** · 01-15-2009, 09:06 AM

People tend to get angry about what they don`t understand.Did you take the dash back out and inspect when this happened or get made because it didn`t go right the irst time.I`ve never seen a mechanic get mad until at least after he`s gone back over his work.The headlights and instrument lights are different circuits.Prolly a ground as mentioned.

petey-pablo · 01-15-2009, 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Longhorn Man

you need to ground the panel. The fact that the fuel guage moves when you hit the lights tells me this.
Your speedo issue is due to either not being hooked up, being broken, or, when you screwed it back on,you didn't get the cable into the hole properly and it never actually plugged in.

X2 you need to ground the panel. Thats what I was going to say the ground wire might have came off...

drewfever1020 · 01-15-2009, 09:19 AM

i will check my ground when i get back from work!

Longhorn Man · 01-15-2009, 04:58 PM

just add one. The factory ground clip was probably left off 20 years ago and they got lucky. Just put a lenth of wire on there with eyelets on either end. Secure one to a bolt on the back of the panel, and then slip the other end under one of the screws that holds the panel to the dash.

PanelDeland · 01-15-2009, 06:04 PM

Whenever you take a cluster out,always look at the male (cluster side of the connection) and take an eraser (pencil eraser) and gently rub the contacts.This will clean them and make for a better connection.Whe you plug it back in make sure you plug it straight and get it to lock in all the way.

drewfever1020 · 01-15-2009, 06:51 PM

were is the ground wire located?

s_nova69 · 01-15-2009, 07:38 PM

Ya definatley the ground. My ol 72 had the same problem til i found the dangling ground one day.

drewfever1020 · 01-17-2009, 05:17 PM

i put a new ground but the fuel gauge goes up and down sometimes ut it seems to be working!
why wont my panel lights work?

Dark Knight · 01-18-2009, 11:39 AM

Hi drewfever1020. I just went through this problem a few days ago. The problem is your headlight switch. (At least it was for mine). Go to your local auto parts store and pick up a new one. They're under $20. Pop it in and your problems should be solved. My Delco-Remy stayed in there for 42 years, but they just don't last forever. Hope this works for you.

Longhorn Man · 01-18-2009, 07:12 PM

a new switch would be next assuming you are 100% sure the bulbs are good.

01-14-2009, 09:34 PM	#1
drewfever1020 Registered User Join Date: May 2008 Location: san antonio, texas Posts: 412	im really angry whats going on? ok i got home and installed my aftermarket oil pressure gauge. so i turned on my truck to go put gas and as im going i noticed my fuel and my speedometer gauge not working, so i chekd my light and no lights on the dash but my light are working outside. so i think its afuse so i check the fuses and they are good! so whats going on? im gettin angry now i cant see how fast im going now!

01-14-2009, 09:36 PM	#2
hilandr452 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Colorado Springs, CO Posts: 357	Re: im really pissed whats going on? I'm thinking maybe you unplugged the wiring harness to the instrument panel? __________________ Dan Smith Colorado Springs, CO 71 GMC Custom Camper "Longhorn" 454, TH400 73 Chevy Camper Special (Yes, it's badged a camper special) Flat Bed Motorhome conversion 454, standard tranny *"DON'T TREAD ON ME !!!"* My Project: http://www.picturetrail.com/sfx/album/view/20829244 , http://www.picturetrail.com/sfx/album/view/24654442

01-14-2009, 09:40 PM	#3
drewfever1020 Registered User Join Date: May 2008 Location: san antonio, texas Posts: 412	Re: im really pissed whats going on? no its plugged in

01-14-2009, 09:46 PM	#4
Green Machine Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Estherville, Iowa Posts: 3,371	Re: im really pissed whats going on? Gauges not working, or you can't see them because the dash lights don't work ? __________________ 1968 C10 307 3spd Long Fleet ------ http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=201103 1970 C10 305 Super T10 Long Fleet --- http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=202285 1971 C20 383 TH350 Dana Posi ----- http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=206894 2001 GMC Sierra 1500 C3 6.0

01-14-2009, 09:58 PM	#5
drewfever1020 Registered User Join Date: May 2008 Location: san antonio, texas Posts: 412	Re: im really pissed whats going on? there not working at all! they were fine then all of a sudden, i think i have a short in my truck! were can i get a complete harness for my truck? its a 71

01-14-2009, 10:10 PM	#6
70clone Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: JACKSONVILLE FL Posts: 200	Re: im really pissed whats going on? try wiggling the headlight switch also turn the knob back and forth a few times

01-14-2009, 10:11 PM	#7
Green Machine Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Estherville, Iowa Posts: 3,371	Re: im really pissed whats going on? Speedometer is all mechanical, that should still work even if you unhooked all the wires. Gas guage has a brown wire that goes to the tank sender, check that and make sure it is plugged into the correct place in the fuse block. __________________ 1968 C10 307 3spd Long Fleet ------ http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=201103 1970 C10 305 Super T10 Long Fleet --- http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=202285 1971 C20 383 TH350 Dana Posi ----- http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=206894 2001 GMC Sierra 1500 C3 6.0 Last edited by Green Machine; 01-14-2009 at 10:13 PM.

01-14-2009, 10:16 PM	#8
drewfever1020 Registered User Join Date: May 2008 Location: san antonio, texas Posts: 412	Re: im really pissed whats going on? i tried that! when i turn my lights on my fuel gauges moves to empty but its not working at all! not even my speedometer

01-14-2009, 10:17 PM	#9
drewfever1020 Registered User Join Date: May 2008 Location: san antonio, texas Posts: 412	Re: im really pissed whats going on? my speedometer aint working at all! the gas sending unit is plugged rite and still nothing

01-14-2009, 10:22 PM	#10
4x4s4allie Registered User Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Manhattan, KS Posts: 197	Re: im really pissed whats going on? my truck does the same, but mice found my truck their home for awhile ... take apart your dash, make sure your wires aren't crossed ... that will cause what you're saying ... also, try turning your headlight switch ALL the way to the right ... that's what i've gotta do for my dash lights and gauges to work ... but that was after i straightened some wires out ... __________________ 1948 CJ-2A Jeep 3spd 1961 C2500 305 V6 4spd 1967 C-10 Long Fleetside 1968 C-10 Long Stepside 250 Saginaw 3spd 1978 Scottsdale K10 355 4spd 1983 Honda Shadow VT750 1990 Toyota 4Runner SR5 4x4 5spd 2008 Toyota Yaris 1978 Scottsdale K10 355 4spd the "Ruby Build"

01-14-2009, 10:33 PM	#11
drewfever1020 Registered User Join Date: May 2008 Location: san antonio, texas Posts: 412	Re: im really pissed whats going on? how can i turn my switch to the rite if it doesnt even go that way

01-14-2009, 11:26 PM	#12
Green Machine Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Estherville, Iowa Posts: 3,371	Re: im really pissed whats going on? Well if you are really pissed, you need to calm down, because you will never get anything done being pissed. Having said that, you have three problems here. 1. gas gauge not working. 2. dash light not working. 3. Speedo not working. Take the easy one first. I suspect the speedometer cable is either broken or unhooked at one end or the other. If the cable is not broken, unscrew it from the speedometer head, drive down the street very carefully, and check to see if the cable is spining with your fingers. If the cable spins then the speedo head is bad, if no spin,then there is a problem with one of the speedo gears in the tranny. Do you have park lights ? I think they run off the same circut as the dash lights. I also suspect a bad ground the gauge cluster. Remove the plug to the cluster, and make sure it is clean and in properly. __________________ 1968 C10 307 3spd Long Fleet ------ http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=201103 1970 C10 305 Super T10 Long Fleet --- http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=202285 1971 C20 383 TH350 Dana Posi ----- http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=206894 2001 GMC Sierra 1500 C3 6.0

01-15-2009, 12:34 AM	#14
Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,693	Re: im really pissed whats going on? you need to ground the panel. The fact that the fuel guage moves when you hit the lights tells me this. Your speedo issue is due to either not being hooked up, being broken, or, when you screwed it back on,you didn't get the cable into the hole properly and it never actually plugged in.

01-15-2009, 09:06 AM	#15
special-K Special Order Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Mt Airy, MD Posts: 85,861	Re: im really pissed whats going on? People tend to get angry about what they don`t understand.Did you take the dash back out and inspect when this happened or get made because it didn`t go right the irst time.I`ve never seen a mechanic get mad until at least after he`s gone back over his work.The headlights and instrument lights are different circuits.Prolly a ground as mentioned. __________________ "BUILDING A BETTER WAY TO SERVE THE USA"......67/72......"The New Breed" GMC '67 C1500 Wideside Super Custom SWB: 327/M22/3.42 posi.........."The '67" (project) GMC '72 K2500 Wideside Sierra Custom Camper: 350/TH350/4.10 Power-Lok..."The '72" (rolling) Tim "Don't call me a redneck. I'm a rough cut country gentleman" R.I.P. ~ East Side Low Life ~ El Jay ~ 72BLUZ ~ Fasteddie69 ~ Ron586 ~ 67ChevyRedneck ~ Grumpy Old Man ~

01-15-2009, 09:19 AM	#17
drewfever1020 Registered User Join Date: May 2008 Location: san antonio, texas Posts: 412	Re: im really angry whats going on? i will check my ground when i get back from work!



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01-15-2009, 04:58 PM	#18
Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,693	Re: im really angry whats going on? just add one. The factory ground clip was probably left off 20 years ago and they got lucky. Just put a lenth of wire on there with eyelets on either end. Secure one to a bolt on the back of the panel, and then slip the other end under one of the screws that holds the panel to the dash.

01-15-2009, 06:04 PM	#19
PanelDeland I am a Referee of life. Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Greensboro N.C. Posts: 13,993	Re: im really angry whats going on? Whenever you take a cluster out,always look at the male (cluster side of the connection) and take an eraser (pencil eraser) and gently rub the contacts.This will clean them and make for a better connection.Whe you plug it back in make sure you plug it straight and get it to lock in all the way. __________________ The 47-present Chevrolet and GMC Truck Message Board Network,it's owners,moderators,members,and associates of any type should not be held responsible for my opinion. You can't fix stupid,not even with duct tape. "My appearance is due to the fact that "GOD" does punish you for having too much fun!" Barrett-Jackson has perfected alchemy,they make rust into gold! "You can lead a horse to water but you can't saddle a duck" "Cleverly disguised as a 'Responsible Adult' "Sometimes your Knight in shining armor is just a retard in tinfoil"

01-15-2009, 06:51 PM	#20
drewfever1020 Registered User Join Date: May 2008 Location: san antonio, texas Posts: 412	Re: im really angry whats going on? were is the ground wire located?

01-15-2009, 07:38 PM	#21
s_nova69 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: slc, ut Posts: 318	Re: im really angry whats going on? Ya definatley the ground. My ol 72 had the same problem til i found the dangling ground one day.

01-17-2009, 05:17 PM	#22
drewfever1020 Registered User Join Date: May 2008 Location: san antonio, texas Posts: 412	Re: im really angry whats going on? i put a new ground but the fuel gauge goes up and down sometimes ut it seems to be working! why wont my panel lights work?

01-18-2009, 11:39 AM	#23
Dark Knight Registered User Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Pleak, Texas Posts: 420	Re: im really angry whats going on? Hi drewfever1020. I just went through this problem a few days ago. The problem is your headlight switch. (At least it was for mine). Go to your local auto parts store and pick up a new one. They're under $20. Pop it in and your problems should be solved. My Delco-Remy stayed in there for 42 years, but they just don't last forever. Hope this works for you.

01-18-2009, 07:12 PM	#24
Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,693	Re: im really angry whats going on? a new switch would be next assuming you are 100% sure the bulbs are good.

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