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jrwild · 04-19-2009, 09:46 PM

This is my first Cheyenne.. Got it for $1500. Every panel has a ding, but the rust isn't too bad. It's a '72 LWB, PB, PS, A/C.

The truck had been sitting for 2 years in a garage. I replaced the battery, changed the oil, emptied/cleaned out the gas tank, put on a new fuel pump/fuel filter and drove it home.

It has an Edelbrock 650 and the old style R-12 A/C. The PO said it had a 'pontiac 400'. First newby question is how do i verify the engine, transmission and rear-end? (maybe i should ask each of these on seperate threads.. lol..)

Here's a few pics

oldblue1968chevy · 04-19-2009, 09:48 PM

that spid/truck is almost identical to mine lol72

dan42 · 04-19-2009, 09:50 PM

On this thread, asking those quetions is fine. Looks like a great buy. I don't know much about Pontiac engines, but I believe the distributor is not in the back like a chevy V8. Someone will correct me if I'm wrong.

69lemans · 04-19-2009, 09:51 PM

Do you have a picture of the engine? I can tell you if it's a Pontiac. Might even try to talk you out of it

jdwhitlo · 04-19-2009, 09:53 PM

Congrats on the truck. Looks like a fun project.

jrwild · 04-19-2009, 10:00 PM

I'm thinking it's a Chevy 400 then as the dist is in the back. I'm guessing the trans is a TH400 but not sure how to check.

Second/Third pic are trans.
Forth/Fifth pic are rear-end.

69lemans · 04-19-2009, 10:05 PM

Pretty sure it's not a Pontiac engine

arkracing · 04-19-2009, 10:11 PM

the SPID shows that it is an original 402 BBC truck. The motor appears to be a typical Small Block Chevy. Can't tell what size without more information. The manifold on the drivers side appears to be from a later motor.

Get a picture of the motor facing from the front, get a picture of the entire trans pan to ID that. If you can get a picture of the harmonic balancer that will tell you if it is a SBC 400 or just a 350/305/327 etc etc. (The 400 balancer has a section of the outer ring "missing". All the others will be round without the missing section)

jrwild · 04-19-2009, 10:50 PM

Do these work?

krenfro88 · 04-19-2009, 11:05 PM

i *Think* thats a sbc400 i could be wrong though..

**fine69** · 04-19-2009, 11:09 PM

400 sb with a 400 turbo trans.

SWEEEEETT.

Longhorn Man · 04-19-2009, 11:15 PM

yep, 400 small block from a later vehicle.

jrwild · 04-19-2009, 11:40 PM

That's awesome! Thanks for the help guys.

So I would guess this is the original 12 bolt rear-end? Any advice on figuring out what the rear end gearing is?

67ChevyRedneck · 04-19-2009, 11:46 PM

Looks like a nice find to me!

**68350** · 04-20-2009, 01:20 AM

since it doesn't appear to have a factory posi, jack the whole rear end up and spin the driveshaft. Count how many driveshaft turns there are to one complete revolution of the tires. if you get almost 4, it's probably 3.73, little over 3, probably 3.08, and more than 4, probably 4.10. should be a 3.08 geared truck with the automatic transmission. nice find, btw

Longhorn Man · 04-20-2009, 05:30 AM

should actually be a 3.07. The 3.08 was a gear for the passenger car 12 bolt.

big_al_71 · 04-20-2009, 06:59 AM

very nice buy....

72BlckButy · 04-20-2009, 02:36 PM

Awesome buy!

jrwild · 04-26-2009, 01:11 AM

Ok, so just thought i would follow up. I finally started deconstruction this weekend. Have most of the interior out and the front sheet metal off. So i was able to get a picture of the block serial number. Looks like i was pretty lucky.

dan42 · 04-26-2009, 01:26 AM

Looks like the original 400 - pretty cool!

Daves72'GMC · 04-26-2009, 02:26 AM

The valve covers are not BB valve covers which are smooth and the A/c was on the passenger side on a BB truck.

red71c10 · 04-26-2009, 02:46 AM

WHITE/OCHRE/WHITE/OCHRE... Shrek was right, Ochre's do have layers!!!

04-19-2009, 09:46 PM	#1
jrwild Registered User Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 30	Finally bought a truck... This is my first Cheyenne.. Got it for $1500. Every panel has a ding, but the rust isn't too bad. It's a '72 LWB, PB, PS, A/C. The truck had been sitting for 2 years in a garage. I replaced the battery, changed the oil, emptied/cleaned out the gas tank, put on a new fuel pump/fuel filter and drove it home. It has an Edelbrock 650 and the old style R-12 A/C. The PO said it had a 'pontiac 400'. First newby question is how do i verify the engine, transmission and rear-end? (maybe i should ask each of these on seperate threads.. lol..) Here's a few pics Attached Images __________________ --------------------------- 1972 C10 LWB - Sold 1968 C10 SWB - 350/700R4 Jacob, DFW/TX

04-19-2009, 09:48 PM	#2
oldblue1968chevy Grandpa in the rustmobile... Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Spokane WA/Viola TN Posts: 11,422	Re: Finally bought a truck... that spid/truck is almost identical to mine lol72 __________________ John Goose-1968 C10 355,9.32-1CR, Vortec Heads ,262 voodoo, 3.73:1 3OTT (HS ride/beater/farm truck) http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=317684 Grams 53-1953 Chevrolet Belair http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...=1#post4327784 1969 Chevy C10 Shortbed 4.5/6?" Frame off resto http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=548136 1999 Toyota Tacoma 4x4

04-19-2009, 09:50 PM	#3
dan42 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Cali Central Coast Posts: 5,191	Re: Finally bought a truck... On this thread, asking those quetions is fine. Looks like a great buy. I don't know much about Pontiac engines, but I believe the distributor is not in the back like a chevy V8. Someone will correct me if I'm wrong. __________________ '67 SWB Fleetside ZZ4/350/Tremec 5-speed/4link/Scott's IFS - and fun as heck! SOLD Click here to support the board Philippians 4: 6-7

04-19-2009, 09:51 PM	#4
69lemans Registered User Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: simpsonville,sc Posts: 417	Re: Finally bought a truck... Do you have a picture of the engine? I can tell you if it's a Pontiac. Might even try to talk you out of it

04-19-2009, 09:53 PM	#5
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04-19-2009, 10:00 PM	#6
jrwild Registered User Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 30	Re: Finally bought a truck... I'm thinking it's a Chevy 400 then as the dist is in the back. I'm guessing the trans is a TH400 but not sure how to check. Second/Third pic are trans. Forth/Fifth pic are rear-end. Attached Images __________________ --------------------------- 1972 C10 LWB - Sold 1968 C10 SWB - 350/700R4 Jacob, DFW/TX

04-19-2009, 10:05 PM	#7
69lemans Registered User Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: simpsonville,sc Posts: 417	Re: Finally bought a truck... Pretty sure it's not a Pontiac engine

04-19-2009, 10:11 PM	#8
arkracing Weekend Warrior Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: CT Posts: 1,787	Re: Finally bought a truck... the SPID shows that it is an original 402 BBC truck. The motor appears to be a typical Small Block Chevy. Can't tell what size without more information. The manifold on the drivers side appears to be from a later motor. Get a picture of the motor facing from the front, get a picture of the entire trans pan to ID that. If you can get a picture of the harmonic balancer that will tell you if it is a SBC 400 or just a 350/305/327 etc etc. (The 400 balancer has a section of the outer ring "missing". All the others will be round without the missing section) __________________ -'07 GMC Sierra K2500HD -'66 C10 Suburban -'68/'71 K20 Service Bed Project -'69 Chevy C30 Mason Dump -'33Ford P/U 396ChevyPowered Last edited by arkracing; 04-19-2009 at 10:14 PM.

04-19-2009, 10:50 PM	#9
jrwild Registered User Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 30	Re: Finally bought a truck... Do these work? Attached Images __________________ --------------------------- 1972 C10 LWB - Sold 1968 C10 SWB - 350/700R4 Jacob, DFW/TX

04-19-2009, 11:05 PM	#10
krenfro88 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: O'fallon Il Posts: 47	Re: Finally bought a truck... i Think thats a sbc400 i could be wrong though..

04-19-2009, 11:09 PM	#11
fine69 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Urbana,Ohio,USA Posts: 4,618	Re: Finally bought a truck... 400 sb with a 400 turbo trans. SWEEEEETT. __________________ 2008 Chevy HHR 1/2 panel. 1949 Chevy Panel truck(just sittin, waiting) Board member #6

04-19-2009, 11:15 PM	#12
Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,690	Re: Finally bought a truck... yep, 400 small block from a later vehicle.

04-19-2009, 11:40 PM	#13
jrwild Registered User Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 30	Re: Finally bought a truck... That's awesome! Thanks for the help guys. So I would guess this is the original 12 bolt rear-end? Any advice on figuring out what the rear end gearing is? Attached Images __________________ --------------------------- 1972 C10 LWB - Sold 1968 C10 SWB - 350/700R4 Jacob, DFW/TX

04-19-2009, 11:46 PM	#14
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04-20-2009, 01:20 AM	#15
68350 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Williston, ND Posts: 2,999	Re: Finally bought a truck... since it doesn't appear to have a factory posi, jack the whole rear end up and spin the driveshaft. Count how many driveshaft turns there are to one complete revolution of the tires. if you get almost 4, it's probably 3.73, little over 3, probably 3.08, and more than 4, probably 4.10. should be a 3.08 geared truck with the automatic transmission. nice find, btw __________________ 68 Chevy CST/10, 50th Anniversary, 327/th400, 373 posi, buckets 68 GMC Shortbox Stepside, 402/th400, Tilt, Tach, Bucket Seats, 3.08 Positraction 69 Chevy Camaro SS, 383, 4 speed, positraction 70 Chevy El Camino SS396, Triple Black, 454/th400, Tach 70 Chevy Shortbox Stepside 4x4, 350/th350, Tilt, Tach, Cab Lights, Bumper Guards, Tow Hooks 70 Chevy 3/4 Longbox, 350/auto, 70k, SURVIVOR 71 Chevy Blazer, CST, 350/auto 71 GMC Sierra K2500, 454, 4 speed, 4.10 posi, 37s 71 Custom/30, Open Road, 350/th400, tilt 72 Chevy Shortbox Fleetside, 496 Stroker/th400, Tilt, Tach, Bucket Seats, 3.42 Posi 72 GMC Sierra Grande 2500. 427/th400, tilt, a/c, tool and stowage, buckets/console, 3.54 posi



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04-20-2009, 05:30 AM	#16
Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,690	Re: Finally bought a truck... should actually be a 3.07. The 3.08 was a gear for the passenger car 12 bolt.

04-20-2009, 06:59 AM	#17
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04-20-2009, 02:36 PM	#18
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04-26-2009, 01:11 AM	#19
jrwild Registered User Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 30	Re: Finally bought a truck... Ok, so just thought i would follow up. I finally started deconstruction this weekend. Have most of the interior out and the front sheet metal off. So i was able to get a picture of the block serial number. Looks like i was pretty lucky. Attached Images __________________ --------------------------- 1972 C10 LWB - Sold 1968 C10 SWB - 350/700R4 Jacob, DFW/TX

04-26-2009, 01:26 AM	#20
dan42 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Cali Central Coast Posts: 5,191	Re: Finally bought a truck... Looks like the original 400 - pretty cool! __________________ '67 SWB Fleetside ZZ4/350/Tremec 5-speed/4link/Scott's IFS - and fun as heck! SOLD Click here to support the board Philippians 4: 6-7

04-26-2009, 02:26 AM	#21
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04-26-2009, 02:46 AM	#22
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