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Blue_71 · 03-20-2003, 09:42 PM

i'll defintly ask more questions before i attack a job next time!! we went to put my 350 and 4 speed in my truck today, cut out the low hump, bolted the engine and tranny together, took it to the truck... no matter what i do i can't slid the tranny in from the front, ive tried jacking up the cab (it's now against the bed) angling the motor backwards, im about to give up and just cut a bigger hole in the cab!!

LudwigTheMad · 03-20-2003, 09:50 PM

if your having that much trouble, jack the whole front of the truck up and then put it......

or you could just put the engine in first, then bolt the tranny to it, but don't cut anymore than you have to.

Dads72 · 03-20-2003, 09:51 PM

We put a 350/350 in the 72 at the same time, but it wasn't much fun.
Can you take the tranny off the engine, install the engine first, and then the tranny?
Might save a lot of grief.

Blue_71 · 03-20-2003, 09:52 PM

truck IS jacked up, but i was trying to slid everything in from the front (front clip is off) theres just not enough room between the crossmember and the cab for that big bulky SM465 to slid in that way

rustyold69 · 03-20-2003, 09:57 PM

you might want to try taking the transmission crossmember off. It should give you more than enough room to slide it in.

**CPNE** · 03-20-2003, 10:32 PM

remove the cover on the tranny that the shift forks attach to. Better get instructions first as it's a b_tch if you don't follow the right procedures

Blue_71 · 03-20-2003, 10:35 PM

where could i find the instructions at? i never even thought about that

**CPNE** · 03-21-2003, 10:30 AM

I beleive chassis overhaul manual? The trick is to set the shift forks in proper position before removing cover. Possibly reverse?

I'd definately find some confirmation before proceeding. This is what we did to get the 402BB/4 speed combo into my son's truck a couple years ago as we had same problem.

**nightmare** · 03-21-2003, 11:05 AM

you might want to try this too. install the tranny first, but don't bolt it in, push it as far back as possible, then get the engine in. should be the easiest way. just a suggestion

still w.i.p '68 · 03-21-2003, 01:08 PM

I put the big block, with turbo 400 attatched in my truck with the clip off, and the tranny cross member out (I was changing it from standard to auto cross member) with out alot of cussing, although next time I might attatch the motor mnts to the motor, instead of the frame/cross member.. ( also I used late model mnts) this may or may not make it any easier...Good luck, and remember when you get pissed, and through tools, you just have to go pick them up.LOL

71jwalker · 03-21-2003, 01:58 PM

Take out the crossmember, and after setting it down on the motor mounts jack up the transmission and put the cross member back in. I have done this in several cars and trucks with the front clip still on.

03-20-2003, 09:50 PM	#2
LudwigTheMad Registered User Join Date: May 2000 Location: Ramona, CA Posts: 2,033	if your having that much trouble, jack the whole front of the truck up and then put it...... or you could just put the engine in first, then bolt the tranny to it, but don't cut anymore than you have to. __________________ That's right, I'm back in the game again. No it's not pink..... 1972 Blue and White Suburban.

03-20-2003, 09:57 PM	#5
rustyold69 student wrench turner Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: wrightstown, wisconsin Posts: 192	you might want to try taking the transmission crossmember off. It should give you more than enough room to slide it in. __________________ 1969 Chevy C-10 with 250 L6 2002 GMC Sierra 2500 HD Duramax with banks six gun

03-20-2003, 10:32 PM	#6
CPNE Resident Curmudgeon Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: NH Posts: 6,664	remove the cover on the tranny that the shift forks attach to. Better get instructions first as it's a b_tch if you don't follow the right procedures __________________ Currently on or near the homestead: 67 Chevy SWB 2WD stepside 350/3 on tree (Pat's) 67 GMC SWB 2WD Fleet 402/auto (Brian's under construction) 67 Chevy 3/4 ton 2WD 402/auto (Business Hauler) 67 Chevy 1 ton dually 2WD 396/4 speed (Former business hauler, Needs TLC) 68 Chevy 1/2 ton Suburban 2WD 250 six/3 on tree (Brian's Needs TLC) 70 Chevy 3/4 ton 4WD 350/4 speed (Pat's - Disguised as a 68 GMC) 71 Chevy SWB stepside (Crushed by tree - parts donor) 72 Chevy 3/4 ton 4WD (Parts donor) 72 Chevy 3/4 ton 4WD Suburban (Parts Donor) 72 GMC 3/4 ton 4WD 292 six/4 speed (Mine - Disguised as a 67 GMC) 81 GMC 4WD Dually Dump Body 350/4 speed (Business Hauler) 82 Camaro Z/28 355/Super T-10 (Pat's toy) 93 Caprice 9C1 (Brian's Cop Car) 02 Toyota Camry (Reliable but a souless steel and plastic hulk) 2011 2SS RS Camaro M6 Factory Hurst Shifter Maybe I need to sell some of this crap Yet another Bozo with a sawz-all

03-21-2003, 10:30 AM	#8
CPNE Resident Curmudgeon Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: NH Posts: 6,664	I beleive chassis overhaul manual? The trick is to set the shift forks in proper position before removing cover. Possibly reverse? I'd definately find some confirmation before proceeding. This is what we did to get the 402BB/4 speed combo into my son's truck a couple years ago as we had same problem. __________________ Currently on or near the homestead: 67 Chevy SWB 2WD stepside 350/3 on tree (Pat's) 67 GMC SWB 2WD Fleet 402/auto (Brian's under construction) 67 Chevy 3/4 ton 2WD 402/auto (Business Hauler) 67 Chevy 1 ton dually 2WD 396/4 speed (Former business hauler, Needs TLC) 68 Chevy 1/2 ton Suburban 2WD 250 six/3 on tree (Brian's Needs TLC) 70 Chevy 3/4 ton 4WD 350/4 speed (Pat's - Disguised as a 68 GMC) 71 Chevy SWB stepside (Crushed by tree - parts donor) 72 Chevy 3/4 ton 4WD (Parts donor) 72 Chevy 3/4 ton 4WD Suburban (Parts Donor) 72 GMC 3/4 ton 4WD 292 six/4 speed (Mine - Disguised as a 67 GMC) 81 GMC 4WD Dually Dump Body 350/4 speed (Business Hauler) 82 Camaro Z/28 355/Super T-10 (Pat's toy) 93 Caprice 9C1 (Brian's Cop Car) 02 Toyota Camry (Reliable but a souless steel and plastic hulk) 2011 2SS RS Camaro M6 Factory Hurst Shifter Maybe I need to sell some of this crap Yet another Bozo with a sawz-all

03-21-2003, 01:08 PM	#10
still w.i.p '68 Dreams are free Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Hogansville Texas Posts: 546	I put the big block, with turbo 400 attatched in my truck with the clip off, and the tranny cross member out (I was changing it from standard to auto cross member) with out alot of cussing, although next time I might attatch the motor mnts to the motor, instead of the frame/cross member.. ( also I used late model mnts) this may or may not make it any easier...Good luck, and remember when you get pissed, and through tools, you just have to go pick them up.LOL __________________ '68 swb fleetside originally w.i.p '68 member since 1-01 w.i.p = ( work in progress )

03-20-2003, 09:51 PM	#3
Dads72 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 427	We put a 350/350 in the 72 at the same time, but it wasn't much fun. Can you take the tranny off the engine, install the engine first, and then the tranny? Might save a lot of grief.

03-21-2003, 01:58 PM	#11
71jwalker Registered User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Joshua, TX Posts: 20	Take out the crossmember, and after setting it down on the motor mounts jack up the transmission and put the cross member back in. I have done this in several cars and trucks with the front clip still on.



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