smog may turn 45yrs instead of 30 - The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network

ironwood · 03-26-2003, 04:41 AM

http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...threadid=45993

Read this thread even though most of you may not live in Cali, I don't...... But this may happen in other states----including yours.
Dave

Prerunner1982 · 03-26-2003, 04:49 AM

at this point in time i dont have to worry about smog at all.. but by the time this idea (45yrs) gets around here.. my truck will be 45 yrs old anyway....

ironwood · 03-26-2003, 04:51 AM

Yeah, hopefully I would just hate to see it happen at all even in California..

Prerunner1982 · 03-26-2003, 05:03 AM

durn tree huggers... probably the same ones that are protesting the war instead of supporting the troops..

ironwood · 03-26-2003, 06:05 AM

Amen to that, they all got their heads up there........
in the clouds (thought I was going to say something else?) I wouldn't do that. They better not want a better life after the war is over because they don't deserve it.
Dave

79BIG10 · 03-26-2003, 07:26 AM

I hope they don't pass that for sure!! Here in Texas it's 25 and older are exempt. One more time this year to pass and I'm home free. I hope they don't start sending ideas this way

low 84 · 03-26-2003, 02:29 PM

that will never fly. 45 years ago was 1958, that was like 15 years before people even started thinking about smog. no way they will pass something that ridiculous.

SCOTI · 03-26-2003, 03:25 PM

The only problem I've got w/them implementing this is the goal should be cleaner air, PERIOD, without all the 'red tape' & BS rules.

During the 60's & leaded fuel era, the 'powers that be' weren't worried about todays air quality. There are other ways to make our cars/trucks run clean(er) and still make the power we all want without being restricted by rules that are outdated.

I feel REGULARLY driven vehicles, NO MATTER WHAT YEAR MODEL, should not be gross polluters. I also feel as long as it burns cleaner than what the regulations call for (that year model) it shouldn't matter what you do under the hood.

You want to install a twin turbo in your 82 year model vehicle?? No prob, as long as you pass the sniffer.
No cats, or maybe you want true duals on your 87?? No prob, as long as you pass the sniffer.

The goal should be cleaner air. Human beans are a creative lot, & as car crafters we sometimes know our machinery a little better than the bureaucrats making the laws. Bring on the chassis loaded sniffer tests but don't worry about the big block thats under my hood. . . ... falls off of soap-box.

*1FaastC10* · 03-27-2003, 01:19 AM

AMEN SCOTI!!!

apstguy · 03-27-2003, 01:28 AM

I wrote a little letter myself!

messed up c-10 · 03-27-2003, 01:38 AM

nothing against Californians but thank god Oklahoma is far from that liberal hellhole. To many Naderites for me. If LA had been built in a good spot rather than in a valley that holds all the smog in the city there would be nowhere near as many issues. As for up north in San Fran. thats like a different world with some of its weird laws.

messed up c-10 · 03-27-2003, 01:44 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Prerunner1982
durn tree huggers... probably the same ones that are protesting the war instead of supporting the troops..

Are you still in? I thought you were getting called up to go the middle east before the war started anyway, Down by Egypt.

79GMC454C35 · 03-27-2003, 02:16 AM

In Arizona all vehicles 67 & newer have to be tested every year. I drive to Long Beach, Ca. about once a month. The air looks cleaner in the L.A. area than the "brown cloud" hanging over Phoenix. My Camaro is a 94 with 185,000 miles. It has never had the 30,000 service done yet. It just passed at 1/4 of the allowed levels. It seems to me a vehicle with good exhaust & a normal tune up will fly right threw. We all want more power & adjusting what we already have can get 10 to 20 HP more than a poorly tuned engine. Are emission laws "big brothers" way of telling us to keep our cars running good so we can see the most gains from our horse power upgrades?

Prerunner1982 · 03-27-2003, 02:21 AM

Ryan, no i havent been called up yet. *knock on wood*.. i wasnt going to Egypt. but i know many people that did...

messed up c-10 · 03-28-2003, 09:10 AM

If you do get called up good luck and stay safe.

TIMSPEED · 03-28-2003, 01:18 PM

I think they should leave the 30 year rolling exemption in CA...that way, come January 1st, my truck will become exempt and it'll be REAL fun.

Smog is lame anyway, who CARES what's under the hood, it's what is coming out of the tailpipe anyway! As a joke, my cousin took his 67 Mustang (stroked 351, Wieand 6-71 blower, on alcohol) into the smog shop, said he just wanted to see what it would put out at the tailpipe..AMAZINGLY, it put out less than a freakin honda!!!

ironwood · 03-29-2003, 01:27 AM

Doesn't alcohol burn cleaner than gas anyway?? I certainly do agree with the laws being too stiff..I think it will get bad up here too, actually in King county WA they are pretty bad (not as bad as Cali) every other year you have to be tested.
Dave

SCOTI · 03-29-2003, 11:10 AM

I've always heard alcohol was considered an 'alternative' fuel, thus making it exempt from emissions. I remember this being the reason some west coast street racers switched to this so their later model cars would pass emissions (not to mention it runs cooler).

03-26-2003, 04:41 AM	#1
ironwood $640 truck// doesn't run Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Buckley,Wa Posts: 122	smog may turn 45yrs instead of 30 http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...threadid=45993 Read this thread even though most of you may not live in Cali, I don't...... But this may happen in other states----including yours. Dave __________________ 74 C-20 LWB camper special stock350/350 53 Chevy 1/2 ton- in California, where the rust is not. Ready for some LOVE!!!

03-26-2003, 04:49 AM	#2
Prerunner1982 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Edmond, OK Posts: 5,904	at this point in time i dont have to worry about smog at all.. but by the time this idea (45yrs) gets around here.. my truck will be 45 yrs old anyway.... __________________ Jon 1982 Chevy Silverado 350/th350.... RETIRED 1993 Jeep XJ 2 door(Cherokee) 4wd 4.0ltr/AX-15 (5spd)/NP231 .... Oklahoma Roll Call

03-26-2003, 04:51 AM	#3
ironwood $640 truck// doesn't run Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Buckley,Wa Posts: 122	Yeah, hopefully I would just hate to see it happen at all even in California.. __________________ 74 C-20 LWB camper special stock350/350 53 Chevy 1/2 ton- in California, where the rust is not. Ready for some LOVE!!!

03-26-2003, 05:03 AM	#4
Prerunner1982 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Edmond, OK Posts: 5,904	durn tree huggers... probably the same ones that are protesting the war instead of supporting the troops.. __________________ Jon 1982 Chevy Silverado 350/th350.... RETIRED 1993 Jeep XJ 2 door(Cherokee) 4wd 4.0ltr/AX-15 (5spd)/NP231 .... Oklahoma Roll Call

03-26-2003, 06:05 AM	#5
ironwood $640 truck// doesn't run Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Buckley,Wa Posts: 122	Amen to that, they all got their heads up there........ in the clouds (thought I was going to say something else?) I wouldn't do that. They better not want a better life after the war is over because they don't deserve it. Dave __________________ 74 C-20 LWB camper special stock350/350 53 Chevy 1/2 ton- in California, where the rust is not. Ready for some LOVE!!!

03-26-2003, 07:26 AM	#6
79BIG10 I'm back with 2nd truck! Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Texas Posts: 3,774	I hope they don't pass that for sure!! Here in Texas it's 25 and older are exempt. One more time this year to pass and I'm home free. I hope they don't start sending ideas this way __________________ 1979 Chevrolet Bonanza Big10 "Tootsie Roll" 1985 Chevrolet Silverado (wife's) Member of the Southern Bowties Club "Don't underestimate how sexy a fat man who drinks to excess can be." Homer Simpson

03-26-2003, 02:29 PM	#7
low 84 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 2,144	that will never fly. 45 years ago was 1958, that was like 15 years before people even started thinking about smog. no way they will pass something that ridiculous. __________________ '51 F100, backhalf with a narrowed 9 and coil overs, 18.5" mickeys, monte front clip, +400" sbc in the works '05 1500 Crew Cab RIP '84 swb 5/7 drop, solid cammed 408 w/ fully ported dart heads, th350 w/ 10 inch hughes, 12 bolt w/ 3.73 richmonds and a locker '80 swb 4x4 in progress: 7" lift, 350 th350/np205, d44 and 1.5" ORD tie rod, 14BFF w/discs , armored diff covers, 40" MTR's

03-26-2003, 03:25 PM	#8
SCOTI Registered User Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: DALLAS,TX Posts: 22,071	The only problem I've got w/them implementing this is the goal should be cleaner air, PERIOD, without all the 'red tape' & BS rules. During the 60's & leaded fuel era, the 'powers that be' weren't worried about todays air quality. There are other ways to make our cars/trucks run clean(er) and still make the power we all want without being restricted by rules that are outdated. I feel REGULARLY driven vehicles, NO MATTER WHAT YEAR MODEL, should not be gross polluters. I also feel as long as it burns cleaner than what the regulations call for (that year model) it shouldn't matter what you do under the hood. You want to install a twin turbo in your 82 year model vehicle?? No prob, as long as you pass the sniffer. No cats, or maybe you want true duals on your 87?? No prob, as long as you pass the sniffer. The goal should be cleaner air. Human beans are a creative lot, & as car crafters we sometimes know our machinery a little better than the bureaucrats making the laws. Bring on the chassis loaded sniffer tests but don't worry about the big block thats under my hood. . . ... falls off of soap-box. __________________ 67SWB-B.B.RetroRod 64SWB-Recycle 89CCDually-Driver/Tow Truck 99CCSWB Driver All Fleetsides @rattlecankustoms in IG Building a small, high rpm engine with the perfect bore, stroke and rod ratio is very impressive. It's like a highly skilled Morrocan sword fighter with a Damascus Steel Scimitar..... *Cubic inches is like Indiana Jones with a cheap pistol.*

03-27-2003, 01:19 AM	#9
1FaastC10 Account Suspended Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Elkhart, IN Posts: 6,399	AMEN SCOTI!!!

03-27-2003, 01:28 AM	#10
apstguy LED King Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 2,087	I wrote a little letter myself! __________________ Tyler 1985 C10 305 w/ Bowtie OD TH700R4 3.42 LSD 202,000 miles 2006 Ford Focus ZX3 5-speed Stick 2016 Chevy Spark EV Gone: 2002.5 VW GTI 24v VR6 Gone: 2008 VW R32

03-27-2003, 01:38 AM	#11
messed up c-10 RHCP afficianado Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: McLoud, OK Posts: 789	nothing against Californians but thank god Oklahoma is far from that liberal hellhole. To many Naderites for me. If LA had been built in a good spot rather than in a valley that holds all the smog in the city there would be nowhere near as many issues. As for up north in San Fran. thats like a different world with some of its weird laws. __________________ ~Ryan~ 89 S-10 Blazer with a 4.3L 96 Ford Crown Vic P71 4.6L V8. This car rocks. Here are some links to some good music. Jack Johnson Donavon Frankenreiter

03-27-2003, 02:16 AM	#13
79GMC454C35 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Arizona Posts: 115	66 & older exempt in Arizona In Arizona all vehicles 67 & newer have to be tested every year. I drive to Long Beach, Ca. about once a month. The air looks cleaner in the L.A. area than the "brown cloud" hanging over Phoenix. My Camaro is a 94 with 185,000 miles. It has never had the 30,000 service done yet. It just passed at 1/4 of the allowed levels. It seems to me a vehicle with good exhaust & a normal tune up will fly right threw. We all want more power & adjusting what we already have can get 10 to 20 HP more than a poorly tuned engine. Are emission laws "big brothers" way of telling us to keep our cars running good so we can see the most gains from our horse power upgrades?

03-27-2003, 02:21 AM	#14
Prerunner1982 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Edmond, OK Posts: 5,904	Ryan, no i havent been called up yet. knock on wood.. i wasnt going to Egypt. but i know many people that did... __________________ Jon 1982 Chevy Silverado 350/th350.... RETIRED 1993 Jeep XJ 2 door(Cherokee) 4wd 4.0ltr/AX-15 (5spd)/NP231 .... Oklahoma Roll Call

03-28-2003, 09:10 AM	#15
messed up c-10 RHCP afficianado Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: McLoud, OK Posts: 789	If you do get called up good luck and stay safe. __________________ ~Ryan~ 89 S-10 Blazer with a 4.3L 96 Ford Crown Vic P71 4.6L V8. This car rocks. Here are some links to some good music. Jack Johnson Donavon Frankenreiter

03-28-2003, 01:18 PM	#16
TIMSPEED Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Modesto, CA Posts: 1,321	I think they should leave the 30 year rolling exemption in CA...that way, come January 1st, my truck will become exempt and it'll be REAL fun. Smog is lame anyway, who CARES what's under the hood, it's what is coming out of the tailpipe anyway! As a joke, my cousin took his 67 Mustang (stroked 351, Wieand 6-71 blower, on alcohol) into the smog shop, said he just wanted to see what it would put out at the tailpipe..AMAZINGLY, it put out less than a freakin honda!!! __________________ I have a few cars... See Them Here



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03-29-2003, 01:27 AM	#17
ironwood $640 truck// doesn't run Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Buckley,Wa Posts: 122	Doesn't alcohol burn cleaner than gas anyway?? I certainly do agree with the laws being too stiff..I think it will get bad up here too, actually in King county WA they are pretty bad (not as bad as Cali) every other year you have to be tested. Dave __________________ 74 C-20 LWB camper special stock350/350 53 Chevy 1/2 ton- in California, where the rust is not. Ready for some LOVE!!!

03-29-2003, 11:10 AM	#18
SCOTI Registered User Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: DALLAS,TX Posts: 22,071	I've always heard alcohol was considered an 'alternative' fuel, thus making it exempt from emissions. I remember this being the reason some west coast street racers switched to this so their later model cars would pass emissions (not to mention it runs cooler). __________________ 67SWB-B.B.RetroRod 64SWB-Recycle 89CCDually-Driver/Tow Truck 99CCSWB Driver All Fleetsides @rattlecankustoms in IG Building a small, high rpm engine with the perfect bore, stroke and rod ratio is very impressive. It's like a highly skilled Morrocan sword fighter with a Damascus Steel Scimitar..... *Cubic inches is like Indiana Jones with a cheap pistol.*

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