06-15-2009, 11:09 AM | #1 |
I'm just glad to be here!
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Longview, TX
Posts: 4,788
|
Front Coil Springs
I have a 98 ext cab. It had a shakle/hanger rear drop kit and front spindles. That was better than stock, but still to high in the back and a little high in the front.
It now has a flip kit in the back (I put the stock hangers/shackles back on) and the rear looks right, the front is now too high. I am not opposed to taking the spings out multiple times, just don't want to buy new dropped springs. My question is, can I cut just a 1/2 of a coil off to see if that is enough drop to get the stance I am looking for? I think I may need to cut 1 full coil off, but do not want to cut 1 coil and not like the result. Will a coil with 1/2 a coil cut off sit in the spring pockets correctly?
__________________
Karl 1965 Chevy Stepside(Grandpa's Old Blue) and (July 2015 Shop Build!)(2020, the Saga Continues) http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=372424 The LST Challenge: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...=1#post7812257 Korbin's 1st Square: "Sunburn" http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=418618 1985 GMC Sierra: "White Trash", Korbin's 2nd now... http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=632305 Henry - 1984 Chevrolet, Owen's 1st Square Last edited by aggie91; 06-15-2009 at 11:10 AM. Reason: spelling |
06-15-2009, 09:17 PM | #2 |
Happy to be here
Join Date: Mar 2000
Location: Cypress, TX
Posts: 39,021
|
Re: Front Coil Springs
Yes you can cut a 1/2 coil on the 88-98 trucks. Just make sure you get the bottom indexed correctly. There is a detent (bump) in the bottom A-arm that the coil should seat against.
Make sure you let the spring settle before you decide if you need to cut more.
__________________
Follow me on Facebook and Instagram @N2trux.com Articles- "Jake" the 84 to 74 crewcab "Elwood" the77_Remix 85 GMC Sierra "Scarlett" "Refining Sierra" |
06-16-2009, 01:41 PM | #3 |
I'm just glad to be here!
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Longview, TX
Posts: 4,788
|
Re: Front Coil Springs
Thanks Ken. I am off work tomorrow, so I am going to do the first 1/2 coil and see how that looks...
__________________
Karl 1965 Chevy Stepside(Grandpa's Old Blue) and (July 2015 Shop Build!)(2020, the Saga Continues) http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=372424 The LST Challenge: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...=1#post7812257 Korbin's 1st Square: "Sunburn" http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=418618 1985 GMC Sierra: "White Trash", Korbin's 2nd now... http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=632305 Henry - 1984 Chevrolet, Owen's 1st Square |
06-17-2009, 09:54 AM | #4 |
Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Roanoke Va
Posts: 16
|
Re: Front Coil Springs
agree on the indexing but cutting coils can cause issues with spring rate i dont recomend cutting coils at all but if you do cut a coil it would need to be cut 360 degrees because if you dont cut 360 the indexing will be off 180 degrees because the spring pockett is indexed on the lca and the upper spring pockett.
Last edited by 74STPSIDE; 06-17-2009 at 09:56 AM. |
06-19-2009, 04:00 PM | #5 |
I'm just glad to be here!
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Longview, TX
Posts: 4,788
|
Re: Front Coil Springs
I decided to cut one full coil. I wish I would have measured the amount of drop, but did not think of it. Here is a before and after shot, they are from different angles since the before is from some time ago.
Before: After: What do you think? I will most likely change the front tire size a little when it is time for new tires. They are currently 245/40R20, maybe go to a 245/45R20 or 255/45R20. Not sure yet...
__________________
Karl 1965 Chevy Stepside(Grandpa's Old Blue) and (July 2015 Shop Build!)(2020, the Saga Continues) http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=372424 The LST Challenge: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...=1#post7812257 Korbin's 1st Square: "Sunburn" http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=418618 1985 GMC Sierra: "White Trash", Korbin's 2nd now... http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=632305 Henry - 1984 Chevrolet, Owen's 1st Square |
06-19-2009, 04:27 PM | #6 |
Registered User
Join Date: May 2002
Location: NJ
Posts: 910
|
Re: Front Coil Springs
Looks good. Expect the front to settle a little more. I'm not sure you can run a taller/wider tire in the front. It may rub. Don't quote me on that, just something to think about.
__________________
83 C10 Stepside (SOLD, it was a blast!) 383 MASS-FLO EFI/TKO II 600/3.90 Posi 10 bolt S475 and C4 DM running, fine tuning turbo= Douchebag Racing: Runs Fine all the Time |
06-21-2009, 11:00 PM | #7 | |
Happy to be here
Join Date: Mar 2000
Location: Cypress, TX
Posts: 39,021
|
Re: Front Coil Springs
Quote:
It's been a while since I have done an 88-98 truck, but I feel confident that the upper pocket is not indexed.
__________________
Follow me on Facebook and Instagram @N2trux.com Articles- "Jake" the 84 to 74 crewcab "Elwood" the77_Remix 85 GMC Sierra "Scarlett" "Refining Sierra" |
|
06-21-2009, 11:03 PM | #8 |
Happy to be here
Join Date: Mar 2000
Location: Cypress, TX
Posts: 39,021
|
Re: Front Coil Springs
aggie91 that looks just about right in my books. Be sure to check your fender lip clearance.
It is common practice to have to "roll" the inner fender at the top to prevent it from chewing up your tires.
__________________
Follow me on Facebook and Instagram @N2trux.com Articles- "Jake" the 84 to 74 crewcab "Elwood" the77_Remix 85 GMC Sierra "Scarlett" "Refining Sierra" |
06-22-2009, 08:01 AM | #9 |
I'm just glad to be here!
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Longview, TX
Posts: 4,788
|
Re: Front Coil Springs
Thanks Guys.
While the front spring was out, I looked in the upper pocket and did not see anything that looked like the upper was indexed. Just the lower A arm. I used a cut off wheel in a 4 1/2" grinder to cut the coil. No excessinve heat that way. It was cool enough to touch after a few minutes. I checked the fender lip clearance and have rolled the front already, plenty of clearance at this point. I did a little to the back lips, there is a spot in the center that is extended into the wheel well more then the rest. I had our racing kart set up loaded in the back this last Saturday and there is a little rubbing in the rear that I need to take care of, but nothing put visable damage on the tires. I need new rear tires so I will take care of the rubbing before getting new shoes for the rear. I love the stance and ride of the truck. I took to long to get it this way.
__________________
Karl 1965 Chevy Stepside(Grandpa's Old Blue) and (July 2015 Shop Build!)(2020, the Saga Continues) http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=372424 The LST Challenge: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...=1#post7812257 Korbin's 1st Square: "Sunburn" http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=418618 1985 GMC Sierra: "White Trash", Korbin's 2nd now... http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=632305 Henry - 1984 Chevrolet, Owen's 1st Square Last edited by aggie91; 06-22-2009 at 08:05 AM. |
06-22-2009, 10:58 AM | #10 |
Happy to be here
Join Date: Mar 2000
Location: Cypress, TX
Posts: 39,021
|
Re: Front Coil Springs
Looking back at the pics again, I see it is time for tires. If your ride is good like that, with no clearence issues I would go with the same size tire again.
It looks like you have nailed it from here...
__________________
Follow me on Facebook and Instagram @N2trux.com Articles- "Jake" the 84 to 74 crewcab "Elwood" the77_Remix 85 GMC Sierra "Scarlett" "Refining Sierra" |
06-22-2009, 08:55 PM | #11 |
Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Roanoke Va
Posts: 16
|
Re: Front Coil Springs
n2trux you were right i checked again and the top isn't indexed sorry if i through that confusion in their and aggie91 the truck looks great.
|
06-22-2009, 09:25 PM | #12 |
Happy to be here
Join Date: Mar 2000
Location: Cypress, TX
Posts: 39,021
|
Re: Front Coil Springs
74STPSIDE no prob. I didn't "think" there was an index, but I have been known to forget.
__________________
Follow me on Facebook and Instagram @N2trux.com Articles- "Jake" the 84 to 74 crewcab "Elwood" the77_Remix 85 GMC Sierra "Scarlett" "Refining Sierra" |
06-24-2009, 06:29 PM | #13 |
Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Calgary Canada
Posts: 556
|
Re: Front Coil Springs
I like those wheels. They look great on that truck! Drop looks better lower too. Good Job.
__________________
If you can't rock the roads with your bumpers 1/2" off the ground, you're nowhere near low enough! |
07-07-2009, 09:13 PM | #14 |
Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: lake charles louisiana
Posts: 94
|
Re: Front Coil Springs
looks great. just take care of that tire.
|
07-08-2009, 09:02 AM | #15 |
I'm just glad to be here!
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Longview, TX
Posts: 4,788
|
Re: Front Coil Springs
Thanks, the tire is not as bad as it looks in the one picture. Do to a bad alignment before the drop, Only the very outter edge of the tire is worn smooth. The rest has very good tread left. After the lowering, the tire wears more to the inside...
__________________
Karl 1965 Chevy Stepside(Grandpa's Old Blue) and (July 2015 Shop Build!)(2020, the Saga Continues) http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=372424 The LST Challenge: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...=1#post7812257 Korbin's 1st Square: "Sunburn" http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=418618 1985 GMC Sierra: "White Trash", Korbin's 2nd now... http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=632305 Henry - 1984 Chevrolet, Owen's 1st Square |
07-08-2009, 09:36 AM | #16 |
Happy to be here
Join Date: Mar 2000
Location: Cypress, TX
Posts: 39,021
|
Re: Front Coil Springs
Not that I would suggest that you do anything that wasn't legal, but that truck sure would look better with out a front plate.
A couple of stainless carriage bolts with the heads ground flat, then polished to look like chrome would easily fill the holes the plate bracket left behind. I'm just sayin...
__________________
Follow me on Facebook and Instagram @N2trux.com Articles- "Jake" the 84 to 74 crewcab "Elwood" the77_Remix 85 GMC Sierra "Scarlett" "Refining Sierra" Last edited by N2TRUX; 07-08-2009 at 09:37 AM. |
07-08-2009, 10:47 AM | #17 |
I'm just glad to be here!
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Longview, TX
Posts: 4,788
|
Re: Front Coil Springs
Thanks Ken, I did not have the plate on for awhile, but "someone" "sugested" that I put it back on since it is required by Texas law...I did not like the factory plastic bracket so I made a simple one from some aluminum, but still not totally satisfied. I wish I could do without it....
__________________
Karl 1965 Chevy Stepside(Grandpa's Old Blue) and (July 2015 Shop Build!)(2020, the Saga Continues) http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=372424 The LST Challenge: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...=1#post7812257 Korbin's 1st Square: "Sunburn" http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=418618 1985 GMC Sierra: "White Trash", Korbin's 2nd now... http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=632305 Henry - 1984 Chevrolet, Owen's 1st Square |
07-08-2009, 06:48 PM | #18 |
Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: lake charles louisiana
Posts: 94
|
Re: Front Coil Springs
one nice thing about cajun country. no front plate required.
|
Bookmarks |
|
|