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nickhotrod33 · 07-20-2009, 01:44 AM

I got a starter from schucks and I can't get it a shim correctly. I've had starter problems before,but I can't get the starter to mesh up to the ring gear. Don't know what else I can do. PLEASE Help!!!!!

NICK

tim21391 · 07-20-2009, 02:37 AM

i dont shim mine.. never had to..

**special-K** · 07-20-2009, 05:46 AM

Shim?What`s that?Something`s wrong there.It should at least mesh up.Wouldn`t a shim put it farther away?I think shims are used when it`s too tight.

67chevemall · 07-20-2009, 11:51 AM

Maybe it is the flywheel?
Stock ones dont usally need shims. Just bolt it up.
The high torque mini's need a shim.cvr anyways

mclairmo · 07-20-2009, 07:24 PM

Might be difference between the 153tooth and 168 tooth flywheel/flexplates. Make sure starter is correct one for your application. Also, make sure teeth on the flywheel/flexplate are not chewed off. Also be sure to use correct oem style knurled starter bolts. Might have to shim just the outer bolt to tilt starter closer to the flywheel/flexplate. You do that by cutting a shim in half. Good luck.

cparman · 07-20-2009, 07:45 PM

is it making a noise when trying to start? Cannot tell you where to find this, but there is a way to use an 1/8th" welding rod, and removing the starter solenoid to manually engage the starter until you get the clearance correct. I would also look carefully at the teeth on the flywheel. Make sure the teeth do not look to be ground down at the peaks of the teeth. If it was making noise before the starter exchange, and you have now fixed it, it may take awhile before you hear a difference.

Hottrucks · 07-20-2009, 09:11 PM

I had the same issue I used a screw driver to pull the starter gear out to the flywheel yea it was a pain once I had an idea of what to do I add a ton of shim to the outside bolt to get it mesh correct but it turns like a top now....

my starter guy said that they some times plain the top of the the start to clean them up he said that mass rebuilders use a belt sander and some come out halfassed others are just jap spin offs that need the same thing he told me the best thing todo is to have your OEM one rebiult it only takes a day and IT WILL WORK

grayw0lf · 07-21-2009, 12:07 PM

If its an automatic, check to make sure your flexplate isn't warped. The best way I've found to do this is to eye the distance between some point on the starter & the flexplate while turning it over by hand. I thought I had a shim issue. It turned out to be not that easy...

07-20-2009, 01:44 AM	#1
nickhotrod33 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: spanaway,wa Posts: 1	starter won't start I got a starter from schucks and I can't get it a shim correctly. I've had starter problems before,but I can't get the starter to mesh up to the ring gear. Don't know what else I can do. PLEASE Help!!!!! NICK

07-20-2009, 02:37 AM	#2
tim21391 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Salina, Kansas Posts: 1,998	Re: starter won't start i dont shim mine.. never had to.. __________________ 1972 C-10...402/400..flowmaster 40 series 1967 Mustang 347 stroker/C-4 1966 Mustang 289/3-speed 2013 Mustang V6/6speed w/300 ponies I may be 23, but i sure do knows 67-72s are sexy! Its not MPG its smiles per gallon! build started 11/25/08 build thread: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s....php?p=2993796

07-20-2009, 05:46 AM	#3
special-K Special Order Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Mt Airy, MD Posts: 85,851	Re: starter won't start Shim?What`s that?Something`s wrong there.It should at least mesh up.Wouldn`t a shim put it farther away?I think shims are used when it`s too tight. __________________ "BUILDING A BETTER WAY TO SERVE THE USA"......67/72......"The New Breed" GMC '67 C1500 Wideside Super Custom SWB: 327/M22/3.42 posi.........."The '67" (project) GMC '72 K2500 Wideside Sierra Custom Camper: 350/TH350/4.10 Power-Lok..."The '72" (rolling) Tim "Don't call me a redneck. I'm a rough cut country gentleman" R.I.P. ~ East Side Low Life ~ El Jay ~ 72BLUZ ~ Fasteddie69 ~ Ron586 ~ 67ChevyRedneck ~ Grumpy Old Man ~

07-20-2009, 11:51 AM	#4
67chevemall Registered User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: NB Posts: 3,367	Re: starter won't start Maybe it is the flywheel? Stock ones dont usally need shims. Just bolt it up. The high torque mini's need a shim.cvr anyways __________________ 1968 Chevy C10 307 3ott fleetside 1967 Chevy C/10 V8, 3spd, fleetside lwb.Sold 1967 Chev C/10 step, 383, M21. SOLD

07-20-2009, 07:24 PM	#5
mclairmo Registered User Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Take Off Posts: 1,908	Re: starter won't start Might be difference between the 153tooth and 168 tooth flywheel/flexplates. Make sure starter is correct one for your application. Also, make sure teeth on the flywheel/flexplate are not chewed off. Also be sure to use correct oem style knurled starter bolts. Might have to shim just the outer bolt to tilt starter closer to the flywheel/flexplate. You do that by cutting a shim in half. Good luck.

07-20-2009, 07:45 PM	#6
cparman sharp as a marble Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: atlantic beach,florida Posts: 1,082	Re: starter won't start is it making a noise when trying to start? Cannot tell you where to find this, but there is a way to use an 1/8th" welding rod, and removing the starter solenoid to manually engage the starter until you get the clearance correct. I would also look carefully at the teeth on the flywheel. Make sure the teeth do not look to be ground down at the peaks of the teeth. If it was making noise before the starter exchange, and you have now fixed it, it may take awhile before you hear a difference.

07-20-2009, 09:11 PM	#7
Hottrucks Redefining LowBudget Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: lebanon Cow Hampshire Posts: 4,538	Re: starter won't start I had the same issue I used a screw driver to pull the starter gear out to the flywheel yea it was a pain once I had an idea of what to do I add a ton of shim to the outside bolt to get it mesh correct but it turns like a top now.... my starter guy said that they some times plain the top of the the start to clean them up he said that mass rebuilders use a belt sander and some come out halfassed others are just jap spin offs that need the same thing he told me the best thing todo is to have your OEM one rebiult it only takes a day and IT WILL WORK

07-21-2009, 12:07 PM	#8
grayw0lf Registered User Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Clanton, AL Posts: 1,253	Re: starter won't start If its an automatic, check to make sure your flexplate isn't warped. The best way I've found to do this is to eye the distance between some point on the starter & the flexplate while turning it over by hand. I thought I had a shim issue. It turned out to be not that easy... __________________ 85' CUCV M1009!!! The newest addition! 6.2diesel, Th400, NP208, & only 36k miles! 70' C-10 LWB Fleetside - Looking good these days! 05' Dodge Neon 88' Winner Escape Sport 1750 - 4.3v6 94' Seadoo SP 84' Honda TRX200, bare nekkid. Just a frame & tires. Always looking for another project or any good deal!



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