2wd to 4x4 frame swap - The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network

Devil Pup · 10-15-2009, 01:39 PM

Im looking to buy a 4x4 frame and switch my 69 2wd over because i want it lifted "my preference" because no one makes a kit for the 2wd but everyone under the sun has one for the 4x. Has anyone done this or know of the work that is involved? i figure almost all would mount up? just have to replace the body mounts and such but then again i have no clue? pics of any conversions? Thanks, Mark

bhoeger70 · 10-15-2009, 06:32 PM

I just finished putting a 67 2wd body on a 71 4x4 frame, you will need 4x4 or 3/4 ton body mounts and a high center hump for the floor of the cab other wise it bolted right on.

**Captainfab** · 10-16-2009, 12:31 AM

As long as you get a '69-'72 frame it will all go together relatively easy. The '67's and '68's use oddball springs, but you could work around that by changing the spring hangers to the FGB52's and a first gen shackle flip from DIY4X.

Devil Pup · 10-16-2009, 05:32 PM

awesome thanks guys. now the trouble is to find the frame lol. . hey bhoeger70 do you have any pics of the swap from before and after with the height and the stance of the truck?

OrrieG · 10-16-2009, 06:36 PM

72 4x4 frame is boise $100 (not mine)

http://boise.craigslist.org/pts/1415536087.html

Devil Pup · 10-16-2009, 09:48 PM

Only prob is i need like the full suspension i cant have it sittin i gotta swap it quick lol. but that is a pretty sweet deal

bhoeger70 · 10-17-2009, 10:28 AM

I have some pics just need to figure out how to post them again. The truck is on a stock suspension and sits about 4 inches higher than the 2wd (the rear bumper is about knee high to me I am 6'1").

Devil Pup · 10-17-2009, 11:44 AM

Sounds pretty nice though. what size tire are you able to run with it? i wanna put a lift and run at least a 35" maybe 37"

bhoeger70 · 10-17-2009, 02:36 PM

I dont think I could much over a 33" tire without starting to run into probelms.

Devil Pup · 10-17-2009, 10:25 PM

Thats stock 4x4 right?

bhoeger70 · 10-18-2009, 08:52 AM

stock 71 1/2 ton 4x4.

Devil Pup · 10-18-2009, 01:38 PM

Nice. . i want one lol

BIGphillip79 · 10-20-2009, 01:25 PM

If you only want to fit larger tires you could probly just piece together a couple things cheaper and easier than swapping frames. Couple inches of body lift 2 or 3" will run bout a hundred bucks. Even if you can't get a complete lift kit you can get another maybe 2 or 3" from some taller front springs. A spring over axle swap in the rear will get about 4" in the back.

skchevota · 10-20-2009, 10:43 PM

Why not convert your 2x to 4x with the 2x frame. If you want to lift it any way. It will be mutch easyer than a full frame swap. and if you lift it you wont be using the stock 4x springs any way. what you need it a DYoffroad b52 kit, that will be all your mounts. and also one of ther engine cross member kits. then a pair of stock 52" springs. a front axle, preferabley with disk brakes. and a u bolt kit. You can do a shakel flip in the rear or just add blocks. you can keep the 2wd steering box and do a cross over steering , or swap to a 4x box. and then sorce a t case. This is the best rout IMO unless you hve a doner 4x4 that is all ready to go. Other wise even if you find a 4x4 frame and axles, you will need to add your lift, and go through the axles, and then still swap the body, engine, and tranny.

10-15-2009, 01:39 PM	#1
Devil Pup Registered User Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Riverside, Ca Posts: 411	2wd to 4x4 frame swap Im looking to buy a 4x4 frame and switch my 69 2wd over because i want it lifted "my preference" because no one makes a kit for the 2wd but everyone under the sun has one for the 4x. Has anyone done this or know of the work that is involved? i figure almost all would mount up? just have to replace the body mounts and such but then again i have no clue? pics of any conversions? Thanks, Mark __________________ Lifted 2wd 1969 C20/ 5.3LS/4L60E :http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=728388

10-15-2009, 06:32 PM	#2
bhoeger70 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Grand Forks ND Posts: 434	Re: 2wd to 4x4 frame swap I just finished putting a 67 2wd body on a 71 4x4 frame, you will need 4x4 or 3/4 ton body mounts and a high center hump for the floor of the cab other wise it bolted right on. __________________ "Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy" Ben Franklin 67 Chevy 1/2 lwb, 67 GMC 1/2 lwb (parts)

10-16-2009, 12:31 AM	#3
Captainfab 60-66 Nut Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Coeur d'Alene, Idaho Posts: 23,254	Re: 2wd to 4x4 frame swap As long as you get a '69-'72 frame it will all go together relatively easy. The '67's and '68's use oddball springs, but you could work around that by changing the spring hangers to the FGB52's and a first gen shackle flip from DIY4X. __________________ Power Steering Box Adapter Plates For Sale HERE Power Brake Booster Adapter Brackets For Sale '63-'66 HERE and '67-'72 HERE and '60-'62 HERE and "60-'62 with clutch HERE Rear Disc Brake Brackets For Sale. Impala SS calipers HERE Camaro Calipers HERE D52 Calipers HERE 6 Lug HERE Hydroboost Mounting Plates HERE

10-16-2009, 05:32 PM	#4
Devil Pup Registered User Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Riverside, Ca Posts: 411	Re: 2wd to 4x4 frame swap awesome thanks guys. now the trouble is to find the frame lol. . hey bhoeger70 do you have any pics of the swap from before and after with the height and the stance of the truck? __________________ Lifted 2wd 1969 C20/ 5.3LS/4L60E :http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=728388

10-16-2009, 06:36 PM	#5
OrrieG Registered User Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Idaho Posts: 8,800	Re: 2wd to 4x4 frame swap 72 4x4 frame is boise $100 (not mine) http://boise.craigslist.org/pts/1415536087.html __________________ 1959 Chevy Short Fleetside w/ 74 4WD drive train (current project) OrrieG Build Thread 1964 Chevelle Malibu w/ 355-350TH (daily driver) Helpful AD and TF Manual Site Old Car Manual Project

10-16-2009, 09:48 PM	#6
Devil Pup Registered User Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Riverside, Ca Posts: 411	Re: 2wd to 4x4 frame swap Only prob is i need like the full suspension i cant have it sittin i gotta swap it quick lol. but that is a pretty sweet deal __________________ Lifted 2wd 1969 C20/ 5.3LS/4L60E :http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=728388

10-17-2009, 10:28 AM	#7
bhoeger70 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Grand Forks ND Posts: 434	Re: 2wd to 4x4 frame swap I have some pics just need to figure out how to post them again. The truck is on a stock suspension and sits about 4 inches higher than the 2wd (the rear bumper is about knee high to me I am 6'1"). __________________ "Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy" Ben Franklin 67 Chevy 1/2 lwb, 67 GMC 1/2 lwb (parts)

10-17-2009, 11:44 AM	#8
Devil Pup Registered User Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Riverside, Ca Posts: 411	Re: 2wd to 4x4 frame swap Sounds pretty nice though. what size tire are you able to run with it? i wanna put a lift and run at least a 35" maybe 37" __________________ Lifted 2wd 1969 C20/ 5.3LS/4L60E :http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=728388

10-17-2009, 02:36 PM	#9
bhoeger70 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Grand Forks ND Posts: 434	Re: 2wd to 4x4 frame swap I dont think I could much over a 33" tire without starting to run into probelms. __________________ "Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy" Ben Franklin 67 Chevy 1/2 lwb, 67 GMC 1/2 lwb (parts)

10-17-2009, 10:25 PM	#10
Devil Pup Registered User Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Riverside, Ca Posts: 411	Re: 2wd to 4x4 frame swap Thats stock 4x4 right? __________________ Lifted 2wd 1969 C20/ 5.3LS/4L60E :http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=728388

10-18-2009, 08:52 AM	#11
bhoeger70 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Grand Forks ND Posts: 434	Re: 2wd to 4x4 frame swap stock 71 1/2 ton 4x4. __________________ "Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy" Ben Franklin 67 Chevy 1/2 lwb, 67 GMC 1/2 lwb (parts)

10-18-2009, 01:38 PM	#12
Devil Pup Registered User Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Riverside, Ca Posts: 411	Re: 2wd to 4x4 frame swap Nice. . i want one lol __________________ Lifted 2wd 1969 C20/ 5.3LS/4L60E :http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=728388

10-20-2009, 01:25 PM	#13
BIGphillip79 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: McAllen TX Posts: 377	Re: 2wd to 4x4 frame swap If you only want to fit larger tires you could probly just piece together a couple things cheaper and easier than swapping frames. Couple inches of body lift 2 or 3" will run bout a hundred bucks. Even if you can't get a complete lift kit you can get another maybe 2 or 3" from some taller front springs. A spring over axle swap in the rear will get about 4" in the back.

10-20-2009, 10:43 PM	#14
skchevota Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Evans, Colorado Posts: 530	Re: 2wd to 4x4 frame swap Why not convert your 2x to 4x with the 2x frame. If you want to lift it any way. It will be mutch easyer than a full frame swap. and if you lift it you wont be using the stock 4x springs any way. what you need it a DYoffroad b52 kit, that will be all your mounts. and also one of ther engine cross member kits. then a pair of stock 52" springs. a front axle, preferabley with disk brakes. and a u bolt kit. You can do a shakel flip in the rear or just add blocks. you can keep the 2wd steering box and do a cross over steering , or swap to a 4x box. and then sorce a t case. This is the best rout IMO unless you hve a doner 4x4 that is all ready to go. Other wise even if you find a 4x4 frame and axles, you will need to add your lift, and go through the axles, and then still swap the body, engine, and tranny.



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