Any hot 305s here?

['72customdeluxe]

what's your budget for heads look like? I would for sure put money towards good rod bolts and forged pistons in a boosted app. Then you could rpm it too. With the 177 weiand you could make 450 horses with good heads i bet

[skyreep1]

I'm not really sure what I'm lookin at but no, its a 454BB (typo) on either a 79 chevy or GMC. Excuse my mechanical illiteracy. All I know is that it says

"1971 8-307 2bbl 215HP@4800RPM and 305ft.lbs.@2800RPM 3.875x3.250 bore&stroke and 9.0:1 compression

VS

1979 8-454 4bbl 205HP@3600RPM and 350ft.lbs.@2500RPM 4.250x4.000 Bore&stroke 8.0:1 compression"

I would appreciate some further explanation. Is the 454 still faster since it's @1000 less RPM? and am I right to say that our torque are only 45ft.lbs. from being the same??

[turbo350]

Originally Posted by '72customdeluxe

what's your budget for heads look like? I would for sure put money towards good rod bolts and forged pistons in a boosted app. Then you could rpm it too. With the 177 weiand you could make 450 horses with good heads i bet

Is it possible to get some good heads for this application under say $600-$700?? I just need some suggestions on which ones to get, ie: Vortec or others? As you stated I have to keep in mind I need to get some good forged pistons, rods, etc. I would be happy with 350-400 horse, but 450ish might really put a smile on my face.

Skyreep1,

I don't want to hi-jack my own thread but here is the horsepower rating method explained:

SAE horsepower
[edit] SAE gross horsepower

Prior to the 1972 model year, American automakers rated and advertised their engines in brake horsepower (bhp), frequently referred to as SAE gross horsepower, because it was measured in accord with the protocols defined in SAE standards J245 and J1995. As with other brake horsepower test protocols, SAE gross hp was measured using a stock test engine, generally running with few belt-driven accessories and sometimes fitted with long tube (test headers) in lieu of the OEM exhaust manifolds. The atmospheric correction standards for barometric pressure, humidity and temperature for testing were relatively idealistic.
[edit] SAE net horsepower

In the United States, the term bhp fell into disuse in 1971-72, as automakers began to quote power in terms of SAE net horsepower in accord with SAE standard J1349. Like SAE gross and other brake horsepower protocols, SAE Net hp is measured at the engine's crankshaft, and so does not account for transmission losses. However, the SAE net hp testing protocol calls for standard production-type belt-driven accessories, air cleaner, emission controls, exhaust system, and other power-consuming accessories. This produces ratings in closer alignment with the power produced by the engine as it is actually configured and sold.
[edit] SAE certified horsepower

In 2005, the SAE introduced a new test protocol for engine horsepower and torque.[12] The new protocol eliminates some of the flexibility in power measurement, and requires an independent observer present when engines are measured. The test is voluntary, but engines completing it can be advertised as SAE-certified.

A few manufacturers such as Honda and Toyota switched to the new ratings immediately, with multi-directional results; the rated output of Cadillac's supercharged Northstar V8 jumped from 440 hp (330 kW) to 469 hp (350 kW) under the new tests, while the rating for Toyota's Camry 3.0 L 1MZ-FE V6 fell from 210 hp (160 kW) to 190 horsepower (140 kW). Much of the drop can be attributed to Toyota now rating engines on 87 octane, compared to Lexus which uses 91 octane. This is why the same 3.3 L 3MZ-FE V6 engine in the Lexus ES330 and Camry SE V6 did not show equal declines. The ES330 and Camry SE V6 were previously rated at 225 hp but the ES330 dropped to 218 hp while the Camry declined to 210 hp. The first engine certified under the new program was the 7.0 L LS7 used in the 2006 Chevrolet Corvette Z06. Certified power rose slightly from 500 hp (370 kW) to 505 hp (377 kW).
[edit]

[shortbed70]

I've rode in a car that had a stroked (383) kit 305 cant remember cubic in. maybe 335 but ran very well and couldnt tell it was a 305. It pulled harder then my 350 did in the same type of car same gearing and trans. If you can get a set of heads if you go with a blower get some 180+cc heads but the problem lies in the valve shrouding with the small bore motor.