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jugernot · 11-05-2009, 08:04 PM

A fellow member (Shane) and I are doing research to see if there is an interest in a suspension part, before we have if made.

We’re going to have a machinist cut large washer/spacers out of stainless steel for the rear trailing arms with air bags. Similar to what you see pictured below. They would be .250 thick - 2.750 outer diameter with a 13/32 inner diameter hole (clearance for a 3/8" bolt).

Unfortunately the cost for a set (that’s two washers) would be $50.00 shipped within the US. I know that is expensive and there are other alternatives, but this will be a unique quality piece. In order of us to get that price we need to have a minimum order of 20 pieces or 10 sets.

OR IF SOMEONE HAS A CONNECTION THAT CAN MAKE THE ITEM WITH THE SAME MATERIAL FOR A CHEAPER PRICE, DROP US A PM. THANKS

Anyone Interested?

*Shane* · 11-05-2009, 08:16 PM

Just for clarity sake, we are not making ANYTHING on these at this price. These are being sold AT COST.

PBFAB.COM · 11-05-2009, 08:40 PM

It's a product I would happily help you sell. I think they are a NO brainer.

**kev2809** · 11-05-2009, 08:42 PM

i was wondering what the hell you guys used as a washer in that pic...lol. i never knew it was stainless steel, looks nice.

**N2TRUX** · 11-05-2009, 09:30 PM

Clearly a cool piece, but will they sell for 50 bucks? You should have made this a poll.

Would you buy this product at this price yes/no.

**lolife99** · 11-05-2009, 10:06 PM

Would it be cheaper to get somone to cut them out on a waterjet?

tomtuna1978 · 11-05-2009, 10:22 PM

why are they so expensive ?

jugernot · 11-05-2009, 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by kev2809

i was wondering what the hell you guys used as a washer in that pic...lol. i never knew it was stainless steel, looks nice.

The one pictures I believe is made from aluminum. I used the picture purely for reference, so everyone would have a visual idea of what we want to make.

jugernot · 11-05-2009, 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by tomtuna1978

why are they so expensive ?

The machinist explained that they will be expensive due to the high price of 304 Stainless Steel right now. The majority of the cost is in the material and hardly any in labor.

jugernot · 11-05-2009, 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by porterbuilt

It's a product I would happily help you sell. I think they are a NO brainer.

Thanks, its always nice to get the Porter Built seal of approval.

jlaird · 11-05-2009, 11:14 PM

Could they be CNC cut? I could get a price if so.

*Shane* · 11-05-2009, 11:32 PM

The quoted price is CNC cut.

I'm currently looking for lower cost provider for material, may even look at a different grade of stainless that may also allow for a lower price. I'll keep everyone informed.

*Shane* · 11-05-2009, 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by lolife99

Would it be cheaper to get somone to cut them out on a waterjet?

You could have them cut on a water jet, but you would not get the finish that turning them on a lathe provides. It wouldn't be any cheaper either, as most guys are charging anywhere from $75-$125 per hour for water jet work. Whereas CNC turning work is going for less than $50 per hour in most parts of the country.

*Shane* · 11-05-2009, 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by porterbuilt

It's a product I would happily help you sell. I think they are a NO brainer.

Thanks for the vote of confidence! We'll keep you informed.

Tx Firefighter · 11-05-2009, 11:42 PM

Do not take this wrong, I am asking a question from my ignorant hillbilly perspective. I've never run bags on my junk, just lots of lowered spring sets. I just run a big grade 8 washer and be done with it.

Why the focus on using the (apparently expensive) grade of stainless ? Why is this better than a big steel washer that costs a few cents ? Is it simply appearance and corrosion resistance or is there some other advantage I don't see ?

68 short step · 11-05-2009, 11:55 PM

wayyyy to expensive for 2 washers...i think if you could get them for 20$ or less shipped, then they'ld sell

*Shane* · 11-05-2009, 11:59 PM

Appearance and corrosion resistance are the only real advantages, honestly.

*Shane* · 11-06-2009, 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by 68 short step

wayyyy to expensive for 2 washers...i think if you could get them for 20$ or less shipped, then they'ld sell

I'm working diligently on a price point of $25 a pair plus shipping.

The kicker is the price breaks that come with larger quantities, but when you make them in batches of less than 100 at a time then it is very difficult to get to the lower price.

I'm working on it guys. I promise.

Tx Firefighter · 11-06-2009, 12:20 AM

They are not as thick, but they are 316 stainless steel, 13/32 id hole, 2 inch od. About a buck each...

http://www.mcmaster.com/#91525a143/=4dntsa

**N2TRUX** · 11-06-2009, 12:21 AM

Is stainless really necessary? Couldn't you make them from steel?

Scottshotrods · 11-06-2009, 05:08 AM

WE CAN MAKE THESE FOR YOU GUYS
AND ALSO GIVE YOU A BETTER PRICE.We have our own cnc mills and lathes and a water jet cutter if
interested e-mail justin@scottshotrods.com

*Shane* · 11-06-2009, 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by N2TRUX

Is stainless really necessary? Couldn't you make them from steel?

Here's the story ... I was asked to quote a part like in the picture. The finish on that part requires that it be maid from stainless or aluminum, and I didn't feel aluminum was the best material for a suspension component.

Thus the reason for the SS.

*Shane* · 11-06-2009, 08:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scottshotrods

WE CAN MAKE THESE FOR YOU GUYS
AND ALSO GIVE YOU A BETTER PRICE.We have our own cnc mills and lathes and a water jet cutter if
interested e-mail justin@scottshotrods.com

You can post a price publicly in this thread. I've already stated we aren't doing this on a for-profit basis, so no need to email back and forth.

Same dimensions as above but add a .125 radius on ONE O.D. corner ... make from 2 5/8" 304 stainless round bar.

Let us know.

*Shane* · 11-06-2009, 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Tx Firefighter

They are not as thick, but they are 316 stainless steel, 13/32 id hole, 2 inch od. About a buck each...

http://www.mcmaster.com/#91525a143/=4dntsa

yeah ... I studied on those quite a bit a few years back but didn't feel that .080" thick was sufficient.

Anyone who doesn't want a set, no problem and no hurt feelings. Jugernot asked me to look into it so I did and the guy doing the machining quoted me this price to do 20 parts. At this point we are only trying to find buyers for the other 7-8 sets.

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11-05-2009, 08:04 PM	#1
jugernot Life, Be In It..... Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Novato, California Posts: 1,498	Who's interested???????????????? A fellow member (Shane) and I are doing research to see if there is an interest in a suspension part, before we have if made. We’re going to have a machinist cut large washer/spacers out of stainless steel for the rear trailing arms with air bags. Similar to what you see pictured below. They would be .250 thick - 2.750 outer diameter with a 13/32 inner diameter hole (clearance for a 3/8" bolt). Unfortunately the cost for a set (that’s two washers) would be $50.00 shipped within the US. I know that is expensive and there are other alternatives, but this will be a unique quality piece. In order of us to get that price we need to have a minimum order of 20 pieces or 10 sets. OR IF SOMEONE HAS A CONNECTION THAT CAN MAKE THE ITEM WITH THE SAME MATERIAL FOR A CHEAPER PRICE, DROP US A PM. THANKS Anyone Interested? Attached Images __________________ Project Name: LEMON DROP. Reconstruction started "December 2000". Projected completion date "Who knows" http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=200082 Last edited by jugernot; 11-05-2009 at 11:04 PM.

11-05-2009, 08:16 PM	#2
Shane Account Suspended Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: over yonder Posts: 14,270	Re: Who's interested???????????????? Just for clarity sake, we are not making ANYTHING on these at this price. These are being sold AT COST.

11-05-2009, 08:40 PM	#3
PBFAB.COM Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Mesa,Az Posts: 3,981	Re: Who's interested???????????????? It's a product I would happily help you sell. I think they are a NO brainer. __________________ www.PorterbuiltFabrication.com Phone: 480-297-2621 E-mail: sales@pbfab.com Find us on FaceBook under Porterbuilt Fabrication Specializing in Chassis and Suspension Components for your Classic Chevrolet Truck. We offer components from the following manufacturers: Porterbuilt Accuair Ridetech (Air Ride Technologies) Air Lift Wilwood Intro Unisteer ECE Gotta Show Air Lift Borgeson CPP Supporting this forum since 2003!

11-05-2009, 08:42 PM	#4
kev2809 low n' slo Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: rosenberg, texas Posts: 5,164	Re: Who's interested???????????????? i was wondering what the hell you guys used as a washer in that pic...lol. i never knew it was stainless steel, looks nice. __________________ 67 1/2 ton Suburban - Project DRGNWGN. Build thread -_--_--_ _________ _--_-_ -/____\|__\|__\__ ,.,,,.,.,,.,\|_O _______ O_]

11-05-2009, 09:30 PM	#5
N2TRUX Happy to be here Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: Cypress, TX Posts: 39,023	Re: Who's interested???????????????? Clearly a cool piece, but will they sell for 50 bucks? You should have made this a poll. Would you buy this product at this price yes/no. __________________ Follow me on Facebook and Instagram @N2trux.com Articles- "Jake" the 84 to 74 crewcab "Elwood" the77_Remix 85 GMC Sierra "Scarlett" "Refining Sierra"

11-05-2009, 10:06 PM	#6
lolife99 67-72 parts collector,… Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Mid-MO Posts: 22,698	Re: Who's interested???????????????? Would it be cheaper to get somone to cut them out on a waterjet? __________________ Keith Convert to disc brakes. http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=444823

11-05-2009, 10:22 PM	#7
tomtuna1978 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Bend,Oregon Posts: 225	Re: Who's interested???????????????? why are they so expensive ?

11-05-2009, 11:14 PM	#11
jlaird Senior Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: johnstown, NY Posts: 2,393	Re: Who's interested???????????????? Could they be CNC cut? I could get a price if so.

11-05-2009, 11:32 PM	#12
Shane Account Suspended Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: over yonder Posts: 14,270	Re: Who's interested???????????????? The quoted price is CNC cut. I'm currently looking for lower cost provider for material, may even look at a different grade of stainless that may also allow for a lower price. I'll keep everyone informed. Last edited by Shane; 11-05-2009 at 11:37 PM.

11-05-2009, 11:42 PM	#15
Tx Firefighter Watch out for your cornhole ! Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Azle, Texas Posts: 14,162	Re: Who's interested???????????????? Do not take this wrong, I am asking a question from my ignorant hillbilly perspective. I've never run bags on my junk, just lots of lowered spring sets. I just run a big grade 8 washer and be done with it. Why the focus on using the (apparently expensive) grade of stainless ? Why is this better than a big steel washer that costs a few cents ? Is it simply appearance and corrosion resistance or is there some other advantage I don't see ? __________________ I'm on the Instagram- @Gearhead_Kevin Last edited by Tx Firefighter; 11-05-2009 at 11:43 PM.

11-05-2009, 11:55 PM	#16
68 short step Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: tulsa OK Posts: 3,070	Re: Who's interested???????????????? wayyyy to expensive for 2 washers...i think if you could get them for 20$ or less shipped, then they'ld sell Last edited by 68 short step; 11-05-2009 at 11:56 PM.

11-05-2009, 11:59 PM	#17
Shane Account Suspended Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: over yonder Posts: 14,270	Re: Who's interested???????????????? Appearance and corrosion resistance are the only real advantages, honestly.

11-06-2009, 12:20 AM	#19
Tx Firefighter Watch out for your cornhole ! Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Azle, Texas Posts: 14,162	Re: Who's interested???????????????? They are not as thick, but they are 316 stainless steel, 13/32 id hole, 2 inch od. About a buck each... http://www.mcmaster.com/#91525a143/=4dntsa __________________ I'm on the Instagram- @Gearhead_Kevin Last edited by Tx Firefighter; 11-06-2009 at 12:24 AM.

11-06-2009, 12:21 AM	#20
N2TRUX Happy to be here Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: Cypress, TX Posts: 39,023	Re: Who's interested???????????????? Is stainless really necessary? Couldn't you make them from steel? __________________ Follow me on Facebook and Instagram @N2trux.com Articles- "Jake" the 84 to 74 crewcab "Elwood" the77_Remix 85 GMC Sierra "Scarlett" "Refining Sierra"



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11-06-2009, 05:08 AM	#21
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