who here has a "C" notch and still uses thier truck as a truck - The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network

jonzcustomshop · 02-09-2009, 07:23 PM

I was looking at my 65 earlier today, and wishing it was a little closer to the ground....
Problem is I do use it still for dump runs, and general truck hauling...
Do any of you that have a c notch through the bed still use your truck as a truck?
How much of a PITA is the c notch?

I tend to keep it on the pavement, so the low ground clearance would not be too much of an issue.

vin63 · 02-09-2009, 08:39 PM

I did before I tore it down, and I will after I finish the re-build. I used to haul oat hay for our horse (6 full bales) every month, or so, various car parts (blocks, transmissions, etc.), and pull a flatbed trailer. The previous owner of the truck had someone install the C-notch (not very well), so as I'm finishing up my frame modifications, I'll fix it.

joe231 · 02-09-2009, 11:44 PM

are you asking about a C notch or a step notch?
with C notch, generally the bed is left un-cut...
i know guys with newer trucks with a C notch who still haul some heavy stuff, huh Scott?

Oregoon · 02-10-2009, 12:03 AM

It shouldn't affect the carrying capacity much, though you'll bottom out on the axle more readily.

SCOTI · 02-10-2009, 12:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joe231

are you asking about a C notch or a step notch?
with C notch, generally the bed is left un-cut...
i know guys with newer trucks with a C notch who still haul some heavy stuff, huh Scott?

Even w/a bolt-in style c-notch, the pumpkin can (will) hit the floor if you're low enough. I used my 68* for hauling all kinds of crap from here to there & it tugged my 18ft car trailer around w/no issues. For reference, the top of the axle tube was 1" above the bottom edge of the stock framerail @ 'normal' ride height.

*I figiured this was related because my 68 & 64-66's have the same rear frame section.

kdrodworks316 · 02-10-2009, 02:06 AM

WOW Jon, how much lower are you planning on? The monster notch in the D&D truck was huge, which pretty much made the bed usless, The burban is c-notched and on 5" coils, I havent hs any problems yet hauling stuff, and by "stuff" you know what they haul in a hearse.

jonzcustomshop · 02-10-2009, 08:59 AM

probably one of those monster notches is what I am thinking... however I do like the rake that dino has on his panel...

dieselarmy13 · 02-10-2009, 09:05 AM

This is what my bed looks like. I have a piece of scap plywood that I cut to go between the frame rails. I use it for dump runs, parts runs, ect.

jason65 · 02-10-2009, 09:09 AM

I bet a guy could reinforce the notches where it is welded to the frame and weld a plate on the top of the notches and hook up a lowered 5th wheel. I wonder what that would look like.

Joey~AP · 02-10-2009, 09:33 AM

Raise the floor of your bed.

c10addict · 02-10-2009, 10:34 AM

Raised the bed floor in my truck.. I think its the best direction you can go and still haul anything..

redsean · 02-10-2009, 11:49 AM

and a set of air shock or helper bags and you should be able to carrie any thing. hell my S10 is steped whith the air up i can carrie more now than before with stock set up

RunninLo · 02-18-2009, 10:59 PM

Jon, on the 92 dually we used to haul a drag bike alot and so it has the bed floor raised so the floor is flat. I did it while doing the body drop and so it was over body dropped and then spaced up similar to a body lift. other than being a touch shallow it still hauls great. I should be seeing the truck come home soon so it should be available for your inspection. I also plan to give the white dually the same treatment but won't start that until I have spindles for it ( Hint, Hint I won't point fingers but the guilty party knows who they are waiting on you man!

) let me know if I can help out in anyway.

Josh

Slow Build · 11-10-2009, 03:54 PM

I had Bell Tech notches and Airjack system in my 89 short fleet. I put 1850 lbs of moss rock in it, put a little air in the bags and drove home with no worries at all. Drove it 150,000 of it's 250,000 miles with that setup then sold the truck for $4500. I don't know about putting them on the newer thin framed trucks but our older thick frame rigs should be strong enough to still do some work.

Is it better to bolt them in or weld them?

My 89 was welded, but some people told me you should bolt them in and the welding weakens the frame. I bolted in the next one on my 93 xcab, but I always thought the 89 felt stronger. I didn't put any notches on my 2002 xcab. Those frames just look too thin to cut into.

jonzcustomshop · 11-11-2009, 06:26 AM

^ thanks for bringing this back up... I have a new bed , and there is no wood in itat all, so this is probably the time to start thinking about dropping it.

02-09-2009, 07:23 PM	#1
jonzcustomshop 1961 crewcab Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: missoula, mt Posts: 6,164	who here has a "C" notch and still uses thier truck as a truck I was looking at my 65 earlier today, and wishing it was a little closer to the ground.... Problem is I do use it still for dump runs, and general truck hauling... Do any of you that have a c notch through the bed still use your truck as a truck? How much of a PITA is the c notch? I tend to keep it on the pavement, so the low ground clearance would not be too much of an issue.

02-09-2009, 08:39 PM	#2
vin63 It's Better With Nitro Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Chino Hills, CA Posts: 2,261	Re: who here has a "C" notch and still uses thier truck as a truck I did before I tore it down, and I will after I finish the re-build. I used to haul oat hay for our horse (6 full bales) every month, or so, various car parts (blocks, transmissions, etc.), and pull a flatbed trailer. The previous owner of the truck had someone install the C-notch (not very well), so as I'm finishing up my frame modifications, I'll fix it. __________________ 1963 C-10: Deluxe-optioned cab, shortbed, fleetside Pontiac 462 ci, Kauffman D-Port alum. heads 4L80E, narrowed sheetmetal Ford 9-inch Tubular front and rear suspension Custom 6-piston front disc and 4-piston rear disc brakes Last edited by vin63; 02-09-2009 at 08:40 PM.

02-09-2009, 11:44 PM	#3
joe231 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Palmer, Alaska Posts: 13,821	Re: who here has a "C" notch and still uses thier truck as a truck are you asking about a C notch or a step notch? with C notch, generally the bed is left un-cut... i know guys with newer trucks with a C notch who still haul some heavy stuff, huh Scott? __________________ *CHEVY ONLY* Last edited by joe231; 02-09-2009 at 11:46 PM.

02-10-2009, 12:03 AM	#4
Oregoon Roadside Rebuilder Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Southeast Portland, OR Posts: 421	Re: who here has a "C" notch and still uses thier truck as a truck It shouldn't affect the carrying capacity much, though you'll bottom out on the axle more readily.

02-10-2009, 02:06 AM	#6
kdrodworks316 KOFFIN DRAGGER Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: st.anthony Idaho Posts: 864	Re: who here has a "C" notch and still uses thier truck as a truck WOW Jon, how much lower are you planning on? The monster notch in the D&D truck was huge, which pretty much made the bed usless, The burban is c-notched and on 5" coils, I havent hs any problems yet hauling stuff, and by "stuff" you know what they haul in a hearse. __________________ If the life I live dont kill me, then I guess I'll never die! New updated stuff at www.kdrodworks.com My site still needs help, web guys and gals pm me. the best guys in the whole world: sweet70beast, jonzcustomshop, runninlow, captainfab, and the one I havent met yet, joe231

02-10-2009, 08:59 AM	#7
jonzcustomshop 1961 crewcab Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: missoula, mt Posts: 6,164	Re: who here has a "C" notch and still uses thier truck as a truck probably one of those monster notches is what I am thinking... however I do like the rake that dino has on his panel... Attached Images

02-10-2009, 09:05 AM	#8
dieselarmy13 Phone's ringin Dude. Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Colorado Springs Posts: 1,426	Re: who here has a "C" notch and still uses thier truck as a truck This is what my bed looks like. I have a piece of scap plywood that I cut to go between the frame rails. I use it for dump runs, parts runs, ect. __________________ I pitty the fool with only two headlights!! 2003 SILVERADO SS--THE NEW GIRL 1972 GMC--THE OLD GIRL

02-10-2009, 09:09 AM	#9
jason65 Registerd User Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 2,118	Re: who here has a "C" notch and still uses thier truck as a truck I bet a guy could reinforce the notches where it is welded to the frame and weld a plate on the top of the notches and hook up a lowered 5th wheel. I wonder what that would look like.

02-10-2009, 09:33 AM	#10
Joey~AP TexasBowhunter Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: alvin, texas Posts: 450	Re: who here has a "C" notch and still uses thier truck as a truck Raise the floor of your bed. __________________ Build in progress for son's first truck.

02-10-2009, 10:34 AM	#11
c10addict Registered User Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: pittsburgh pa Posts: 1,970	Re: who here has a "C" notch and still uses thier truck as a truck Raised the bed floor in my truck.. I think its the best direction you can go and still haul anything.. Attached Images __________________ 68 C10 Shorty TPI,Bagged, and all the good stuff. Classic trucks feature June 06, On the cover of Jegs Christmas Catalog 08 67 C10 Shorty Shop truck project Bagged and Z'd under destruction and getting nowhere fast. 64 C10 Shop Truck/Daily driver, Bagged, Dropmember, SOLD!!!! Gone but not forgotten.. 54 GMC under the knife getting a S10 chassis swap and bagged. See my build thread... 07 GMC Sierra 5/7 drop, 22's and 24's Air ride on my mind.. http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=339340 See pics of my trucks in my profile

02-10-2009, 11:49 AM	#12
redsean Registered User Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: florence ky Posts: 51	Re: who here has a "C" notch and still uses thier truck as a truck and a set of air shock or helper bags and you should be able to carrie any thing. hell my S10 is steped whith the air up i can carrie more now than before with stock set up

02-18-2009, 10:59 PM	#13
RunninLo 3DrDwn--the 'burb not the band Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: missoula, mt Posts: 598	Re: who here has a "C" notch and still uses thier truck as a truck Jon, on the 92 dually we used to haul a drag bike alot and so it has the bed floor raised so the floor is flat. I did it while doing the body drop and so it was over body dropped and then spaced up similar to a body lift. other than being a touch shallow it still hauls great. I should be seeing the truck come home soon so it should be available for your inspection. I also plan to give the white dually the same treatment but won't start that until I have spindles for it ( Hint, Hint I won't point fingers but the guilty party knows who they are waiting on you man! ) let me know if I can help out in anyway. Josh __________________ Slo and Lo that is the tempo. '72 burb build page here: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=259256 '89 GMC Dually crew build page coming soon. 88 4x4 crew DD duallys past/present pics here: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...46#post4001246 89 1 ton Dually rear flip kit install here: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=354327

11-10-2009, 03:54 PM	#14
Slow Build Registered User Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: California Delta Posts: 2,163	Re: who here has a "C" notch and still uses thier truck as a truck I had Bell Tech notches and Airjack system in my 89 short fleet. I put 1850 lbs of moss rock in it, put a little air in the bags and drove home with no worries at all. Drove it 150,000 of it's 250,000 miles with that setup then sold the truck for $4500. I don't know about putting them on the newer thin framed trucks but our older thick frame rigs should be strong enough to still do some work. Is it better to bolt them in or weld them? My 89 was welded, but some people told me you should bolt them in and the welding weakens the frame. I bolted in the next one on my 93 xcab, but I always thought the 89 felt stronger. I didn't put any notches on my 2002 xcab. Those frames just look too thin to cut into. __________________ Name: Rich Current Ride: 1964 C-10 Short Fleetside Daily Driver: 2005 GMC crew cab short fleetside /2001 Chevy Tahoe Past GM Trucks: 1959 GMC short stepside 1968 GMC short stepside-4x4 1973 Chevy short stepside 1989 Chevy short fleetside-reg cab 1993 Chevy short fleetside-Xcab 2002 Chevy short fleetside-Xcab Save the dinosaurs, use synthetic oil. Last edited by Slow Build; 11-10-2009 at 04:16 PM.

11-11-2009, 06:26 AM	#15
jonzcustomshop 1961 crewcab Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: missoula, mt Posts: 6,164	Re: who here has a "C" notch and still uses thier truck as a truck ^ thanks for bringing this back up... I have a new bed , and there is no wood in itat all, so this is probably the time to start thinking about dropping it. __________________ 60 build: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=280904 61 crew build: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=646830 63 build: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=336537 64 'burb build: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=448681 65 'burb build: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=590715 65 build: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=281955



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