Copo info?????

[Tex_50613]

I know these exist because a old guy I use to work for has 2 but I am trying to find (on line) any info on the 67 - 72 3/4 ton Short bed 4x4's

like I said I know they exist because I have personally incountered them, and if Elery (the guy I worked for) would have not still had all the origanal paper work from Chevy on the one I would have not beleived it, one of his is a 71 fleetside the other is a 69 stepside.
he told me he had to order the Fleetside along with 2 Coil sprung rear 1 ton 4x4 short wheelbase bobbed fraim cab and Chassis trucks directly from the factory (thus the COPO and the papperwork he has supports this) He use to run a service station back in the 60's and 70's and had ordered the short box as a parts runner and the two cab and chassis got custom wreaker bodies on them, he still has 1 of the wrekers too but it is in horrid shape and dis repair

the 69 he obtained some time in the late 70's from a government auction, from his recollection (and a old black and white photo dated 1978) the truck was red when he purchased it and said US Forestry Service on the doors but the truck has since been re-painted and obtains none of the origanal color or markings

any help on this or anyone else who had incountered any of these (or other) rare birds I would appreciate any info, Thanks

[leddzepp]

I have never heard of a 3/4 ton SWB 4x4 from 67-72. Do you have any pics?

[70cst]

Tex_50613 ... sounds like an interesting truck. It would be great to see pics and the paper work on this COPO truck. I have never seen a factory 3/4 4x4 SWB Stepper but then again I had never seen a 50th Stepside truck until recently but I now know they exist.
Glad to have you on board.

[Longhorn Man]

I'd like to see documentation on this.
GM didn't make 3/4 ton SWB trucks, one tons with coils, nor one ton 4X4.
COPO could have done it, but I say highly unlikely.
An after production converson company couldd do this, and they did build a lot of trucks for the forestry department.

[68jewel]

For those of who don't know COPO stands for Centrel Office Production Order. There this truck may have been a special order for a dealership and may be one of a kind. I too would not believe unless I saw it with my own eyes. In these modern times Chevy will not build such special vehicles just for any dealership. But, 40 years ago Chevy would have done just about anything to outshine Ford or Dodge.

[2tons of fun]

never happend, sounds like he bought what ever he could get his hands on and swapped the rest out.

i have a 78, 4x4, 1 ton, bbc, 465, drw swb fleet, its in my drive way right now. every part on it is a gm peice save for 3. but gm didnt build it, i did. but you may not know it till i point every bit and trick out to you.

[Bob B.]

Wow. I have not seen these trucks in person, so I certainly won't comment on them. However, I have seen a lot of these trucks over the years, many strange configurations, but I have never seen any 4X4 with coil rear springs. I don't believe I have ever seen a 1 ton with coils either. Same goes for a 1 ton 4X4. I think such a truck may not even have been a COPO, but would have been something a dealer or a truck body company did. COPO's were usually something like an option that was not normally available on a particular vehicle (a 427 in a '69 Camaro is a good example). That would be one weird truck. I hope you can post some pictures and a SPID or the first numbers of the VIN. Sounds really interesting.

[special-K]

Those sound like very interesting trucks.We really can`t say yay or nay about something we don`t know anything about.i have seen things done that don`t have documentation to support,otherwise known as exceptions.i`ve seen equipment listed in parts books that I`ve never known to exist on a truck.i`m sure the opposite could be true.We have all seen vehicles equipped with features that were not supposed to be available,like tow hooks only offered on with chrome from bumper according to GM.i`ve seen trucks with painted bumpers and tow hooks on the sPID,contrary to order books.
i know i`ve seen older Task master series trucks thatwere shortbed 3/4t trucks.I know you could have a short 3/4t NAPCO and I know I`ve had a`71 1t NAPCO that left the factory as a C/30.
i`d love to learn more about these trucks.i`m always willing to learn something new or find out that what I always thought is still true.

[2tons of fun]

the napcos truck are not factory by the title of napco. napco was a conversion company that did work for all the mfgs.

[Tex_50613]

could they be NAPCO trucks and still ordered from GM direct? and have COPO on the papper work?

[PanelDeland]

My understanding of the COPO program was that it applied to production line stuff only.This doesn't mean that it did since some info on that is kind of sketchy.If the truck was a Napco then would it show that on the spid or would it have a Napco spid?
I've seen COPO trucks that were anything from paint choices to oddball options but have never seen a 4X4 short of any style from this era that was anything but a 1/2 ton.This doesn't mean they don't exist just that they are pretty rare.None of the literature I have mentions them either so I'm assuming they would have to be conversion companies or possibly aftermarket stuff.

[Dieselwrencher]

There was a guy from Newton Ia, that used to have a 69 K30 SWB truck. As I was told it was a napco and when the truck arrived at the dealership it was shorterned at the local dealer and they installed a same color SWB from another truck. This was a well off farmer and all their family's trucks were purchased from this dealership.

[LONGHAIR]

The COPO program was exploited by a few dealers (Yenko, Baldwin, etc) to put big engines into cars that didn't have them as an "available option". It's actual intent was to supply fleets. Police cars, taxi cabs, Forrestry service, and even things like Coca-Cola delivery trucks were the biggest part of vehicles ordered that way.

[special-K]

Originally Posted by 2tons of fun

the napcos truck are not factory by the title of napco. napco was a conversion company that did work for all the mfgs.

I think we all know about NAPCOs.Like I said,I had one.Believe me,when you own one you set out to learn all about them.You get to know about everyone who deals with them when searching parts.This was way before I ever punched a computer keyboard.
At first NAPCOs were post factory conversions.Then,they could be ordered from GM and delivered as a factory truck with parts available through GM in the late`50s.But,they were NAPCO parts.Then,GM started building their own 4wd trucks.But,they didn`t make 1t 4wds.You had to go with a C/30 with a NAPCO conversion.I can`t say for a fact that you couldn`t order that truck from GM.I can`t call a guy out on doubt.So far,no one has proof one way or the other.
It`s like SLP Camaros and Firebirds.First you bought the car,gutted the drivetrain,and converted to one badass legal car that cost more than a Vette.Then GM and SLP got together and the SS and Firehawk were born as factory-built cars,but they were still SLPs.

[68jewel]

Originally Posted by special-K

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It`s like SLP Camaros and Firebirds.First you bought the car,gutted the drivetrain,and converted to one badass legal car that cost more than a Vette.Then GM and SLP got together and the SS and Firehawk were born as factory-built cars,but they were still SLPs.

Hahahahahaha!!! I like that analogy. I especially understand it because I bought LS parts from SLP for my two 6.0 LS engines I'm putting together for my C10 and my Chevelle.

[gcsupraman]

Look what I found! Obviously not sure it is original.....

http://hudsonvalley.craigslist.org/cto/1490643603.html

[Dieselwrencher]

You are probabaly going to get a lot of this: "That is a 1/2 ton with 3/4 ton axles."

[Tex_50613]

Originally Posted by Dieselwrencher

There was a guy from Newton Ia, that used to have a 69 K30 SWB truck. As I was told it was a napco and when the truck arrived at the dealership it was shorterned at the local dealer and they installed a same color SWB from another truck. This was a well off farmer and all their family's trucks were purchased from this dealership.

Originally Posted by Dieselwrencher

You are probabaly going to get a lot of this: "That is a 1/2 ton with 3/4 ton axles."

that's what I thought at first but then he showed me the papperwork and order form from the dealership and papperwork from GM,
I am planning on going down and visiting the owner of these trucks during late season shotgun to go deer hunting and will try to remember to take pics of the truck and the specific oddball configurations along with the vin tags and the tags in the glove box, I will also see if he will let me take the documentation he has to the local libary and scan or copy it, also it was mentioned something about a oddball truck from Newton, IA.... I wonder if they came from the same dealership originally, Elery lived near Eddyville at the time of the purchase but I do not remember the dealership which he ordered the trucks from

[UltraBlue71]

I wonder if anyone ever COPOed a 430HP 427 in one of these trucks? Now that would be cool
I highly doubt they would have ever done it...