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3r!c84 · 01-21-2010, 12:03 AM

the front tires on my truck stick out diffrent,my driviers side is more out then my pass by a little more then a inch?

flamingbig10 · 01-21-2010, 12:10 AM

mine also do it

3r!c84 · 01-21-2010, 12:14 AM

i can tell now more after i lowerd it and only my drivers side rubs the outer fender lip

STOCKISH · 01-21-2010, 12:16 AM

If your drivers or passenger side tire sticks out an inch more than the other, you have a major issue. Hope the frame's not bent.

3r!c84 · 01-21-2010, 12:18 AM

well its just about a inch. its enough that i could tell it wasnt the same on both sides.do it come stock like that???idk

joe231 · 01-21-2010, 12:53 AM

Have you had an alignment done?

ToughBowtieTruck · 01-21-2010, 01:07 AM

Sure the "tires" are what is out of center and not your "body" ? i.e. driver's fender vs passenger fender distance to frame center is off . . . . ?

cochino12 · 01-21-2010, 01:08 AM

I've owned over 10 square bodies and all of the 2wd's have had that same issue, not quite an inch but definitly noticeable.

STOCKISH · 01-21-2010, 09:17 AM

This black truck in my avatar is my 9th square body. Yes, the front tires stick out more than the rear but none of them have ever had an issue with the drivers or passenger side sticking out an inch more than the other. Something is either wrong with the body mounting or there is an issue with the suspension. May just bee more positive canber on one side than the other, hopefully nothing is bent. Grab a tape measure and crawl under there and let us know what you find.

**old Rusty C10** · 01-21-2010, 09:59 AM

id look into it too... maybe ask a front end shop.There is a thread on here where the OP has risted control arms... maybe the control arms is damaged or the bushing is bad?? Ive had four or five of these trucks and if one tire stuck out noticibly more id notice it, Of course the lowering would make this more obvious and i prefer my trucks higher

Keith Seymore · 01-21-2010, 10:03 AM

Make sure the cab is set square on the frame.

One of the problems with these trucks (when new) is that the cab is so short that when it was set on the frame at body drop it could be rotated to one side or the other. The hood is set to the cab, shooting straight forward off the cab but off to one side compared to the frame. Then the front end (fenders and rad support) are "squared" to the hood, equalizing the gap between the hood and fenders but causing them to shoot off to the side, too.

One way to check this is to look at the gap between the front bumper and the fenders on each side. The bumper is attached to the frame and therefore centered; any difference side to side could indicate the problem above.

This was not so much of a problem with the crew cabs, Blazers or Suburbans, because the longer body made it more robust against being set on there crooked.

K

jchav62 · 01-21-2010, 10:35 AM

My '73 has the same issue, but my truck was in a front end collision before it was parked, years ago, years before I bought it. The body mounts took shape and dried out to this position. I noticed the body alignment issues when I replaced the fenders and hood. Right now they are adjusted to look 'square'. I haven't yet replaced them, but to me it looks like new mounts would be the fix for my situation.

Also, very good info Keith! Interesting...

menace121978 · 01-21-2010, 11:35 AM

very good info! thanks Keith... something to keep in mind when the cab goes back on.

glock35ipsc · 01-21-2010, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by menace121978

very good info! thanks Keith... something to keep in mind when the cab goes back on.

Yep, keep everything snug, instead of fully tightening everything down, until everything has been straightened and aligned. Then nail it all down.

travo77 · 01-21-2010, 11:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Keith Seymore

Make sure the cab is set square on the frame.

One of the problems with these trucks (when new) is that the cab is so short that when it was set on the frame at body drop it could be rotated to one side or the other. The hood is set to the cab, shooting straight forward off the cab but off to one side compared to the frame. Then the front end (fenders and rad support) are "squared" to the hood, equalizing the gap between the hood and fenders but causing them to shoot off to the side, too.

One way to check this is to look at the gap between the front bumper and the fenders on each side. The bumper is attached to the frame and therefore centered; any difference side to side could indicate the problem above.

This was not so much of a problem with the crew cabs, Blazers or Suburbans, because the longer body made it more robust against being set on there crooked.

K

then maybe the frame on my parts truck isnt bent and to think of all the people that backed out of buying it because i thought the frame might be bent

3r!c84 · 01-21-2010, 11:31 PM

ill take some pics tomrow and show u guys

thrtsxchambers · 01-22-2010, 10:02 PM

You may need to check you camber. You may have too many shims on one side if the top of the tire is out farther than the bottom. My 83 is bagged and when dropped they hit the fender but the same on each side, I just remove the inner lip so they don't rub anymore.

spinem · 01-22-2010, 10:55 PM

agreed^^^

also, chevy put a stiffer spring on the air compressor side... do u have an ac truck? ac removed? thus leaning and throwing u off?

01-21-2010, 12:03 AM	#1
3r!c84 Badass Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: lox. fl Posts: 4,586	front tires stick out diffrent the front tires on my truck stick out diffrent,my driviers side is more out then my pass by a little more then a inch? __________________ Think outside the box? -84c10 (1stcar)→My Build← -00 Saturn 5spd drop a gear and disappear! 1/4:13:90

01-21-2010, 12:10 AM	#2
flamingbig10 6.0 powered square Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Mesquite texas Posts: 3,459	Re: front tires stick out diffrent mine also do it __________________ Aaron 1980 c-10 short bed lowered, cammed 6.0, 4l80e 3600 stall, smp tune, wilwoods, and flames best time so far best et 7.86 @87 on motor 7.57 90 on a 75 shot Build http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=283326

01-21-2010, 12:14 AM	#3
3r!c84 Badass Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: lox. fl Posts: 4,586	Re: front tires stick out diffrent i can tell now more after i lowerd it and only my drivers side rubs the outer fender lip __________________ Think outside the box? -84c10 (1stcar)→My Build← -00 Saturn 5spd drop a gear and disappear! 1/4:13:90

01-21-2010, 12:16 AM	#4
STOCKISH Formerly- 1972SuperCheyenne Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Wake Forest NC Posts: 5,782	Re: front tires stick out diffrent If your drivers or passenger side tire sticks out an inch more than the other, you have a major issue. Hope the frame's not bent. __________________ --Josh My Build Thread:http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=799218 A good crossthread is better than Loctite any day. Life is not about what you have, but who you have to share it with.

01-21-2010, 12:18 AM	#5
3r!c84 Badass Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: lox. fl Posts: 4,586	Re: front tires stick out diffrent well its just about a inch. its enough that i could tell it wasnt the same on both sides.do it come stock like that???idk __________________ Think outside the box? -84c10 (1stcar)→My Build← -00 Saturn 5spd drop a gear and disappear! 1/4:13:90

01-21-2010, 12:53 AM	#6
joe231 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Palmer, Alaska Posts: 13,821	Re: front tires stick out diffrent Have you had an alignment done? __________________ *CHEVY ONLY*

01-21-2010, 01:07 AM	#7
ToughBowtieTruck Registered User Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: MI Posts: 111	Re: front tires stick out diffrent Sure the "tires" are what is out of center and not your "body" ? i.e. driver's fender vs passenger fender distance to frame center is off . . . . ? __________________ -Josh "Mr. Simpson, there are thousands of people like you with no discernible talent." Duff World Records Division "Yeah, they're called Congress!!" -Homer Simpson

01-21-2010, 01:08 AM	#8
cochino12 It followed me home? Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Yup Posts: 5,751	Re: front tires stick out diffrent I've owned over 10 square bodies and all of the 2wd's have had that same issue, not quite an inch but definitly noticeable. __________________ Adam That's why they call it a shortcut Kyle, if it was easy it would just be the way. 86 c-10 SWB 85 CCSB 90 GMC K30 Crew SRW 1985 C30 Dually Last edited by cochino12; 01-21-2010 at 01:09 AM.

01-21-2010, 09:17 AM	#9
STOCKISH Formerly- 1972SuperCheyenne Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Wake Forest NC Posts: 5,782	Re: front tires stick out diffrent This black truck in my avatar is my 9th square body. Yes, the front tires stick out more than the rear but none of them have ever had an issue with the drivers or passenger side sticking out an inch more than the other. Something is either wrong with the body mounting or there is an issue with the suspension. May just bee more positive canber on one side than the other, hopefully nothing is bent. Grab a tape measure and crawl under there and let us know what you find. __________________ --Josh My Build Thread:http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=799218 A good crossthread is better than Loctite any day. Life is not about what you have, but who you have to share it with.

01-21-2010, 09:59 AM	#10
old Rusty C10 Robert Olson Transport Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: recent transplant to NC USA Posts: 20,277	Re: front tires stick out diffrent id look into it too... maybe ask a front end shop.There is a thread on here where the OP has risted control arms... maybe the control arms is damaged or the bushing is bad?? Ive had four or five of these trucks and if one tire stuck out noticibly more id notice it, Of course the lowering would make this more obvious and i prefer my trucks higher __________________ Bob 1951 International running on a squarebody chassis "If a man's worth is judged by the people he associates himself with, then i am the richest man in the world knowing some of the fine people of this board" http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/a...t.php?f=25&a=9 (you can review the site rules here!) PM Me for your vehicle/parts hauling needs in the North East US or see my Facebook page Robert Olson Transport Live each day to the fullest.. you never know when fate is going to pull the rug out from under you... I hate cancer!!

01-21-2010, 10:03 AM	#11
Keith Seymore Registered User Join Date: May 2009 Location: Motor City Posts: 9,177	Re: front tires stick out diffrent Make sure the cab is set square on the frame. One of the problems with these trucks (when new) is that the cab is so short that when it was set on the frame at body drop it could be rotated to one side or the other. The hood is set to the cab, shooting straight forward off the cab but off to one side compared to the frame. Then the front end (fenders and rad support) are "squared" to the hood, equalizing the gap between the hood and fenders but causing them to shoot off to the side, too. One way to check this is to look at the gap between the front bumper and the fenders on each side. The bumper is attached to the frame and therefore centered; any difference side to side could indicate the problem above. This was not so much of a problem with the crew cabs, Blazers or Suburbans, because the longer body made it more robust against being set on there crooked. K __________________ Chevrolet Flint Assembly 1979-1986 GM Full Size Truck Engineering 1986 - 2019 Intro from an Old Assembly Guy: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=342926 My Pontiac story: http://forums.maxperformanceinc.com/...d.php?t=560524 Chevelle intro: http://www.superchevy.com/features/s...hevy-chevelle/ Last edited by Keith Seymore; 01-21-2010 at 10:05 AM.

01-21-2010, 10:35 AM	#12
jchav62 1962 C-10 Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Las Vegas, New Mexico Posts: 4,978	Re: front tires stick out diffrent My '73 has the same issue, but my truck was in a front end collision before it was parked, years ago, years before I bought it. The body mounts took shape and dried out to this position. I noticed the body alignment issues when I replaced the fenders and hood. Right now they are adjusted to look 'square'. I haven't yet replaced them, but to me it looks like new mounts would be the fix for my situation. Also, very good info Keith! Interesting... __________________ Joseph Chavez "See the USA in a Chevrolet!!" ......................_____ .........________//__{\_____ ,,,,,,,/__(O)___//___/__(O)_/ 1962 C10 Shortbed Fleetside 327/th350 GV overdrive 1974 C10 Longbed Fleetside 350/th350 "The Trash Truck" 1999 Chevy 2500 OBS, Longbed 5.7/4L80E 4x4 2015 GMC Sierra SLE 1500 4x4

01-21-2010, 11:35 AM	#13
menace121978 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: orangevale, ca Posts: 3,626	Re: front tires stick out diffrent very good info! thanks Keith... something to keep in mind when the cab goes back on. __________________ "Dennis the Menace" 1978 Silverado (2wd, 1/2 ton, short bed)complete nut & bolt frame off restomod LQ9/4L80E MY LS SWAP/FRAME OFF BUILD BOOK 2006 TBSS way too much to list

01-21-2010, 11:31 PM	#16
3r!c84 Badass Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: lox. fl Posts: 4,586	Re: front tires stick out diffrent ill take some pics tomrow and show u guys __________________ Think outside the box? -84c10 (1stcar)→My Build← -00 Saturn 5spd drop a gear and disappear! 1/4:13:90

01-22-2010, 10:02 PM	#17
thrtsxchambers Registered User Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Salisbury, NC Posts: 316	Re: front tires stick out diffrent You may need to check you camber. You may have too many shims on one side if the top of the tire is out farther than the bottom. My 83 is bagged and when dropped they hit the fender but the same on each side, I just remove the inner lip so they don't rub anymore.



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01-22-2010, 10:55 PM	#18
spinem haha, ford guys... Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Visalia, CA Posts: 576	Re: front tires stick out diffrent agreed^^^ also, chevy put a stiffer spring on the air compressor side... do u have an ac truck? ac removed? thus leaning and throwing u off?

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