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GmtGmt · 02-14-2010, 02:49 PM

started asembling the front end yesterday but it a problem i cant compress the spring enought so the ball joint thread can get though the Spindel so i can put the nut on

what am i doing wrong?

its just a chassie with an engine

might just be me who are complete idiot but i have never work with this kind of suspension types before and never so large

bigblock73 · 02-14-2010, 02:57 PM

Have a buddy sit/stand on the chassis up front for extra weight when jacking up the LCA.

Check to see the spring is seated properly top and bottom...especially the top (to ensure it is in the cup).

Check to see that the lower ball joint is not getting hung up on the spindle.

Perhaps loosen the upper ball joint nut...it looks rather tight...might help to do them all loosly, then go back and tighten things up.

**old Rusty C10** · 02-14-2010, 02:58 PM

is the spring properly seated in the frame and LCA? we had spring compressors that we used the last time i did this kind of thing on an 87 Monte Carlo and that worked AFAIR

flamingbig10 · 02-14-2010, 03:00 PM

your spindle is on wrong

ocbaud · 02-14-2010, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by flamingbig10

your spindle is on wrong

its cheaper than going with drop spindles?

Big Port Jimmy 6 · 02-14-2010, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by flamingbig10

your spindle is on wrong

Ding Ding We have a winner! Good catch the lower ball joint has a bigger shaft that the upper. If you still have trouble Use a sturdy chain and sturdy jack.Loop the chain over the frame and around the axle on the jack to prevent the frame from picking up and making the spring compress. Jay

71swb4x4 · 02-14-2010, 03:16 PM

When you get the spindle on correctly if you still have the problem loosing the upper ball joint nut will lower the spindle and might give you the extra you need to get the nut on the lower ball joint.

GmtGmt · 02-14-2010, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by flamingbig10

your spindle is on wrong

dang didnt even notice that lol

junkyardjohn · 02-14-2010, 03:39 PM

HAD THAT SAME PROBLEM PUTTING NEW STOCK COILS IN MY 69 1 TON WRECKER. PRETTY STOUT & THEY DON'T COMPRESS FOR FOR NOTHING. HAD TO TIE MY FRONTEND DOWN TO COMPRESS THE SPRINGS ENOUGH WITH A FLOOR JACK TO START THE THREADS ON THE BALL JOINT. JOHN

motornut · 02-14-2010, 04:34 PM

not sure if this will work for you but it has for me ,say you are working on the drivers front ball joint,brace it under it to keep from dropping lower....brace the pass front ,and drivers rear, for support and use the jack on the pass rear opposite to the (soon to be installed new bj).raise and lower the jack opposite corner to the ball joint being installed,let the car pivot on the other two corners........

piecesparts · 02-14-2010, 07:12 PM

Do this a different way. Do not jack the lower arm up to the truck. Put the jack under the truck and the lower arm on top of a block and use the truck's weight to compress the spring. In other words jack the truck up and down, not the A-arm. It works better.

jitteryguy · 02-14-2010, 07:22 PM

did ya get mount'd ? good see some progress on the truck

**N2TRUX** · 02-14-2010, 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by piecesparts

.... In other words jack the truck up and down.....

That only works if there is a "truck" mounted on the frame.

GmtGmt · 02-15-2010, 06:29 PM

got the other spindel in place and just got the upper balljoint nut on only by a few threads and then jacked the lower control arm up and got a buddy standing on the frame and it worked got the right side done now only need to mount the brake line on the caliber and the tie rod but its standing on it own wheels now

Pics will follow tommrow

02-14-2010, 02:57 PM	#2
bigblock73 yeller Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Twin Cities Posts: 13,826	Re: Resembling the front suspension hit kinda small problem Have a buddy sit/stand on the chassis up front for extra weight when jacking up the LCA. Check to see the spring is seated properly top and bottom...especially the top (to ensure it is in the cup). Check to see that the lower ball joint is not getting hung up on the spindle. Perhaps loosen the upper ball joint nut...it looks rather tight...might help to do them all loosly, then go back and tighten things up. __________________ Jeff 73-87.com 73-87.com Facebook page 73-87 cab corner 6x9 speaker brackets for sale 67-72 cab corner speaker brackets for sale 47-54 cab corner speaker brackets for sale

02-14-2010, 02:58 PM	#3
old Rusty C10 Robert Olson Transport Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: recent transplant to NC USA Posts: 20,301	Re: Resembling the front suspension hit kinda small problem is the spring properly seated in the frame and LCA? we had spring compressors that we used the last time i did this kind of thing on an 87 Monte Carlo and that worked AFAIR __________________ Bob 1951 International running on a squarebody chassis "If a man's worth is judged by the people he associates himself with, then i am the richest man in the world knowing some of the fine people of this board" http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/a...t.php?f=25&a=9 (you can review the site rules here!) PM Me for your vehicle/parts hauling needs in the North East US or see my Facebook page Robert Olson Transport Live each day to the fullest.. you never know when fate is going to pull the rug out from under you... I hate cancer!!

02-14-2010, 03:00 PM	#4
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02-14-2010, 03:16 PM	#7
71swb4x4 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Brookings, SD Posts: 10,497	Re: Resembling the front suspension hit kinda small problem When you get the spindle on correctly if you still have the problem loosing the upper ball joint nut will lower the spindle and might give you the extra you need to get the nut on the lower ball joint. __________________ Some people are like slinkies, they aren't good for anything, but you can't help but smile when you see one tumble down the stairs.

02-14-2010, 03:39 PM	#9
junkyardjohn Registered User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: SOMERSET KY. Posts: 6,427	Re: Resembling the front suspension hit kinda small problem HAD THAT SAME PROBLEM PUTTING NEW STOCK COILS IN MY 69 1 TON WRECKER. PRETTY STOUT & THEY DON'T COMPRESS FOR FOR NOTHING. HAD TO TIE MY FRONTEND DOWN TO COMPRESS THE SPRINGS ENOUGH WITH A FLOOR JACK TO START THE THREADS ON THE BALL JOINT. JOHN __________________ junkyardjohn 69 1 TON TOW TRUCK // 84 4WD CUCV BLAZER// 85 1 TON 4WD STAKE TRUCK// 86 M1031 5/4 TON 4WD CUCV// ALOT OF OLD TRUCKS FOR ONE OLD MAN TO DRIVE. THERES ROOM FOR ALL OF GODS CREATURES RIGHT NEXT TO MY MASHED POTATOES// LIFE MEMBER OF P.E.T.A (PEOPLE EATING TASTY ANIMALS) DON'T RENT U-HAUL ALWAYS TELL THE TRUTH IT WILL AMAZE PART OF THE PEOPLE & ASTONISH THE REST

02-14-2010, 04:34 PM	#10
motornut 78K & 79C Jimmys Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Ottawa Ont CANADA Posts: 7,901	Re: Resembling the front suspension hit kinda small problem not sure if this will work for you but it has for me ,say you are working on the drivers front ball joint,brace it under it to keep from dropping lower....brace the pass front ,and drivers rear, for support and use the jack on the pass rear opposite to the (soon to be installed new bj).raise and lower the jack opposite corner to the ball joint being installed,let the car pivot on the other two corners........ __________________ John 1978 GMCJimmy4X4-350/203 1979 GMCJimmy4X2-305/350

02-14-2010, 07:12 PM	#11
piecesparts Parts and more parts Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Lebo, Kansas (middle of nowhere Posts: 6,821	Re: Resembling the front suspension hit kinda small problem Do this a different way. Do not jack the lower arm up to the truck. Put the jack under the truck and the lower arm on top of a block and use the truck's weight to compress the spring. In other words jack the truck up and down, not the A-arm. It works better. __________________ Frank

02-14-2010, 07:22 PM	#12
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