question.... how much patina is too much ? - The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network

travlinman · 03-01-2010, 10:22 PM

ive got a 68 suburban that has alot of surface rust (patina) on it but when is it too much ?
i want to leave the outside the way it is..i like the look with the 15x10 slots and it being lowered but what about the interior ?

ive got some on the dash an doors and am wondering if i should just leave it and put newer stuff around it (door panels,handels etc) or sand it down and repaint the whole inside and make it very comfy inside.

what are people doing or what are ur thoughts ?

any help guys before i start ordering parts......

Sinister · 03-01-2010, 11:25 PM

MT71c-10 · 03-01-2010, 11:30 PM

If it's not cozy to drive, you probably won't drive it, let alone keep it.

Do what you want, I have to like to drive it.

Sinister · 03-01-2010, 11:36 PM

If your going to keep the patina on the outside, I think the inside should match. Just redo the dash pad, cluster, door panels/handles, seats and leave the patina.

BAGNDRAGIT · 03-01-2010, 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Sinister

If your going to keep the patina on the outside, I think the inside should match. Just redo the dash pad, cluster, door panels/handles, seats and leave the patina.

i think sinister nailed it....

keep the look, make it reliable though.

travlinman · 03-03-2010, 12:43 AM

ok,
thanks guys due to a few holes in the dash i need to fill im going to just redo the dash,gauges etc... an leave everything else until i decide to completely redo it.

**N2TRUX** · 03-03-2010, 01:10 AM

I prefer the current trend to update the interior, but leave the outside. A good example of that is what n2billet is doing with his latest project Hazel.The inside will be like new, but the outside will be all original.

If you want to remove some of the rust but preserve the patina, then wash it down with CLR

Before CLR-

After CLR-

OARNGESI · 03-03-2010, 03:44 AM

Wow that wagon came out nice any other pics

sanford66 · 03-03-2010, 04:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by N2TRUX

I prefer the current trend to update the interior, but leave the outside. A good example of that is what n2billet is doing with his latest project Hazel.The inside will be like new, but the outside will be all original.

If you want to remove some of the rust but preserve the patina, then wash it down with CLR

Before CLR-

After CLR-

What??? That can't be the same paint in the second pic, maybe the same car! Joseph

**Hart_Rod** · 03-03-2010, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by N2TRUX

I prefer the current trend to update the interior, but leave the outside. A good example of that is what n2billet is doing with his latest project Hazel.The inside will be like new, but the outside will be all original.

If you want to remove some of the rust but preserve the patina, then wash it down with CLR

Before CLR-

After CLR-

I bet that's some expensive stuff....

.....

1FAST68 · 03-03-2010, 11:15 AM

I saw that car at the good guys show in Denton. He used clr toilet bowl cleaner to remove the rust and cleared over it. It does look very good in person.

There is a thread on DFW stangs about it.

Troyz R Us · 03-03-2010, 12:17 PM

Bagged wagon, love it!

mr48chev · 03-03-2010, 12:43 PM

Can someone explain to this old guy what the fascination with cruddy looking cars in and why they are "cool"? as I just don't get it. Maybe because I have driven cars and trucks with worn out paint or primer most of my life due to not having the cash to fix them right most of the time and it just isn't cool to me to ride around in one even though my daily driver 71 GMC looks pretty rough.

This isn't cool or by design. It's worn out paint that I haven't had the time or money to do anything about.

I think "Patina" is the new term for "I'm too lazy to fix my truck right".

Jacfourteen · 03-03-2010, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by mr48chev

Can someone explain to this old guy what the fascination with cruddy looking cars in and why they are "cool"? as I just don't get it. Maybe because I have driven cars and trucks with worn out paint or primer most of my life due to not having the cash to fix them right most of the time and it just isn't cool to me to ride around in one even though my daily driver 71 GMC looks pretty rough.

This isn't cool or by design. It's worn out paint that I haven't had the time or money to do anything about.

I think "Patina" is the new term for "I'm too lazy to fix my truck right".

Don't look now but someone stole two of your headlights!

1FAST68 · 03-03-2010, 01:01 PM

To each his own. Some people are painting old cars to make them look that way.

Who knows maybe someday a 1" diameter sidepipe might be the hip thing!!!

*Shane* · 03-03-2010, 02:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1FAST68

I saw that car at the good guys show in Denton. He used clr toilet bowl cleaner to remove the rust and cleared over it. It does look very good in person.

There is a thread on DFW stangs about it.

Yep ... CLR can be used as a toilet bowl cleaner.

Jacfourteen · 03-03-2010, 02:29 PM

I never tried it on rust but my sister in law used it on her car that had sat in sprinkler spray with well water. It had some pretty bad water spots from the calcium. She had tried a bunch of stuff with no luck, I told her to try clr. It said on the bottle not to use on cars so I told her to dilute it. she tried it and it worked great.

flashed · 03-03-2010, 03:58 PM

Those of you who have used CLR ,how much did you use per gallon of water ? I may have to try it and see how it works .

GCncsuHD · 03-03-2010, 06:09 PM

I need more details on this CLR method of washing. How much do you dilute? Are there any more pictures where someone has done this? I'm not going for the patina look, but it will be a few years before I am ready to have the truck painted, and I want it to look ok for a driver in the meantime, and not rust away. Right now I just have a little surface rust on a few panels.

*Shane* · 03-03-2010, 07:47 PM

here ya go ... I did a little research and ran upon this ...

scroll down to post #499 (about 3/4's of the way down the page)

http://www.impalas.net/forums/showth...=conv*&page=20

Here's another with a El Camino ...

http://www.chevytalk.org/fusionbb/sh.../post/1712505/

jayharrell · 03-03-2010, 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by mr48chev

Can someone explain to this old guy what the fascination with cruddy looking cars in and why they are "cool"? as I just don't get it. Maybe because I have driven cars and trucks with worn out paint or primer most of my life due to not having the cash to fix them right most of the time and it just isn't cool to me to ride around in one even though my daily driver 71 GMC looks pretty rough.

This isn't cool or by design. It's worn out paint that I haven't had the time or money to do anything about.

I think "Patina" is the new term for "I'm too lazy to fix my truck right".

I heard the same thing from an old timer at the local guitar shop about 50s and 60s fender strats...

"They sound like a 50 year old guitar. Like crap. I cant understand why someone would want to pay that kind of money to be cool playing a guitar that sounds horrible. The bad sound is the reason people pawned the damn things."

LONGHAIR · 03-03-2010, 08:41 PM

I love it, except for the shine.....Clearing to try to preserve it is fine, but IMO it needs to be flat.

03-01-2010, 10:22 PM	#1
travlinman Registered User Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: stockton ca. Posts: 502	question.... how much patina is too much ? ive got a 68 suburban that has alot of surface rust (patina) on it but when is it too much ? i want to leave the outside the way it is..i like the look with the 15x10 slots and it being lowered but what about the interior ? ive got some on the dash an doors and am wondering if i should just leave it and put newer stuff around it (door panels,handels etc) or sand it down and repaint the whole inside and make it very comfy inside. what are people doing or what are ur thoughts ? any help guys before i start ordering parts...... __________________ 94 ls swap silverado 65 Pontiac 78 c30 crew cab dually (parted and gone) 82 c30 crew cab dually ( now building ) 91 r30 crew cab dually (parted and gone) 69 swb-sold 71 lab sold all in progress......__ ..........._______ \|__\__ ..........\|__(O)______(O)] ........................

03-01-2010, 11:25 PM	#2
Sinister Between Trucks... Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Los Angeles, CA. Posts: 3,830	Re: question.... how much patina is too much ? __________________ Beat it to fit, Paint it to match...

03-01-2010, 11:30 PM	#3
MT71c-10 Too many toys,not enough money Join Date: May 2008 Location: Bozeman,MT Posts: 237	Re: question.... how much patina is too much ? If it's not cozy to drive, you probably won't drive it, let alone keep it. Do what you want, I have to like to drive it. __________________ Looking for all Montana members. PM me or send friend request.http://www.67-72chevytrucks.com/vboa...36#post3813336 Last edited by MT71c-10; 03-01-2010 at 11:30 PM.

03-03-2010, 12:43 AM	#6
travlinman Registered User Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: stockton ca. Posts: 502	Re: question.... how much patina is too much ? ok, thanks guys due to a few holes in the dash i need to fill im going to just redo the dash,gauges etc... an leave everything else until i decide to completely redo it. __________________ 94 ls swap silverado 65 Pontiac 78 c30 crew cab dually (parted and gone) 82 c30 crew cab dually ( now building ) 91 r30 crew cab dually (parted and gone) 69 swb-sold 71 lab sold all in progress......__ ..........._______ \|__\__ ..........\|__(O)______(O)] ........................

03-03-2010, 01:10 AM	#7
N2TRUX Happy to be here Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: Cypress, TX Posts: 39,023	Re: question.... how much patina is too much ? I prefer the current trend to update the interior, but leave the outside. A good example of that is what n2billet is doing with his latest project Hazel.The inside will be like new, but the outside will be all original. If you want to remove some of the rust but preserve the patina, then wash it down with CLR Before CLR- After CLR- __________________ Follow me on Facebook and Instagram @N2trux.com Articles- "Jake" the 84 to 74 crewcab "Elwood" the77_Remix 85 GMC Sierra "Scarlett" "Refining Sierra"

03-01-2010, 11:36 PM	#4
Sinister Between Trucks... Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Los Angeles, CA. Posts: 3,830	Re: question.... how much patina is too much ? If your going to keep the patina on the outside, I think the inside should match. Just redo the dash pad, cluster, door panels/handles, seats and leave the patina. __________________ Beat it to fit, Paint it to match...

03-03-2010, 03:44 AM	#8
OARNGESI Registered User Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: CASA GRANDE AZ Posts: 4,276	Re: question.... how much patina is too much ? Wow that wagon came out nice any other pics __________________ 70 SWB STEPSIDE 70 BLAZER 09 challenger

03-03-2010, 11:15 AM	#11
1FAST68 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: east, tx Posts: 149	Re: question.... how much patina is too much ? I saw that car at the good guys show in Denton. He used clr toilet bowl cleaner to remove the rust and cleared over it. It does look very good in person. There is a thread on DFW stangs about it. __________________ 68 chevy truck ls3, 418ci, pump gas 10.81@121.8 all motor. 1.47 60ft 70 suburban 350 tbi swap, 700r4, work in progress

03-03-2010, 12:17 PM	#12
Troyz R Us Registered User Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: TX Posts: 28	Re: question.... how much patina is too much ? Bagged wagon, love it!

03-03-2010, 12:43 PM	#13
mr48chev Registered User Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Toppenish, WA Posts: 15,446	Re: question.... how much patina is too much ? Can someone explain to this old guy what the fascination with cruddy looking cars in and why they are "cool"? as I just don't get it. Maybe because I have driven cars and trucks with worn out paint or primer most of my life due to not having the cash to fix them right most of the time and it just isn't cool to me to ride around in one even though my daily driver 71 GMC looks pretty rough. This isn't cool or by design. It's worn out paint that I haven't had the time or money to do anything about. I think "Patina" is the new term for "I'm too lazy to fix my truck right".

03-03-2010, 01:01 PM	#15
1FAST68 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: east, tx Posts: 149	Re: question.... how much patina is too much ? To each his own. Some people are painting old cars to make them look that way. Who knows maybe someday a 1" diameter sidepipe might be the hip thing!!! __________________ 68 chevy truck ls3, 418ci, pump gas 10.81@121.8 all motor. 1.47 60ft 70 suburban 350 tbi swap, 700r4, work in progress

03-03-2010, 02:29 PM	#17
Jacfourteen Big Red - Now its a SWB! Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Oroville, Ca Posts: 1,624	Re: question.... how much patina is too much ? I never tried it on rust but my sister in law used it on her car that had sat in sprinkler spray with well water. It had some pretty bad water spots from the calcium. She had tried a bunch of stuff with no luck, I told her to try clr. It said on the bottle not to use on cars so I told her to dilute it. she tried it and it worked great. __________________ 68 3/4 ton (Project)-350 Small Block, .030 over, 10:1 comp, 3998993 heads, C3BX edelbrock intake, comp cams XE268, Holley 670 SA, long tube headers, dual flow 40's, E-fan, Alum rad, currently under the knife getting shortened and bagged build thread 41 3/4 ton (wife's)-flatbed, fully restored to original 01 Tahoe LT 4WD (my daily driver)-Magnaflow Muffler, Rollin on 22's 02 Ford Mustang Convertable (Wife's Car)-Flowmaster 50, Clear corners, Intake, sittin on 18's

03-03-2010, 03:58 PM	#18
flashed Registered User Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: canton ga Posts: 12,728	Re: question.... how much patina is too much ? Those of you who have used CLR ,how much did you use per gallon of water ? I may have to try it and see how it works .

03-03-2010, 06:09 PM	#19
GCncsuHD Charlie Daniels w/ a Tq Wrench Join Date: May 2009 Location: Statesville, NC Posts: 1,570	Re: question.... how much patina is too much ? I need more details on this CLR method of washing. How much do you dilute? Are there any more pictures where someone has done this? I'm not going for the patina look, but it will be a few years before I am ready to have the truck painted, and I want it to look ok for a driver in the meantime, and not rust away. Right now I just have a little surface rust on a few panels. __________________ ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ 67 C10 Shortbed "Great Grandpa's Truck" I6 3 on the Tree 71k original miles 5.3 swap in the works 69 K5 Blazer-Family Beach Cruiser Project 78 K30 Dually Semi-Retired Fire Truck 350/SM465 35"s SOLD01 2500HD ECSB 6.0 4x4 5.13's 8" lift 38"s

03-03-2010, 07:47 PM	#20
Shane Account Suspended Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: over yonder Posts: 14,270	Re: question.... how much patina is too much ? here ya go ... I did a little research and ran upon this ... scroll down to post #499 (about 3/4's of the way down the page) http://www.impalas.net/forums/showth...=conv&page=20 Here's another with a El Camino ... http://www.chevytalk.org/fusionbb/sh.../post/1712505/ Last edited by Shane; 03-03-2010 at 08:02 PM.*



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