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Old 03-07-2010, 03:17 PM   #1
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question: How are BB's going to hlp balance your tires..?
x2 never heard of using BB bulets being used for this
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Old 03-07-2010, 03:26 PM   #2
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x2 never heard of using BB bulets being used for this
It's dynamic balancing, once you get up to speed the BB's will collect opposite of the heavier spot in your wheel/tire combo, balancing it out. Although most people do not use actual steel shot BB's since the moisture in the air inside the tire causes them to rust, as well as it basically "shot peens" the aluminum wheels at low speed. Most people use the plastic Airsoft BBs. You see it more in big heavy offroad tires that are difficult to balance. I've even seen golf balls thrown in the big 2.5 ton+ truck tires to balance them out.


Interesting build. So I assume you are pulling the DRW hubs front and rear to go SRW?
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Old 03-07-2010, 05:40 PM   #3
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It's dynamic balancing, once you get up to speed the BB's will collect opposite of the heavier spot in your wheel/tire combo, balancing it out. Although most people do not use actual steel shot BB's since the moisture in the air inside the tire causes them to rust, as well as it basically "shot peens" the aluminum wheels at low speed. Most people use the plastic Airsoft BBs. You see it more in big heavy offroad tires that are difficult to balance. I've even seen golf balls thrown in the big 2.5 ton+ truck tires to balance them out.


Interesting build. So I assume you are pulling the DRW hubs front and rear to go SRW?
Thanks for explaining that, GCncsuHD.I didnt understand the concept when I first heard of it. But i do know it works. As to using actual steel shot, i have never had a problem with the zinc plated ones rusting. At most they lose their shine but thats about it. And i will not be using the aluminum rims with these tires so no worry about "shot peening" the rims. As for your question, I will be keeping the DRW hubs front and back. Stock H1 military rims (which i have ordered and should be here tomorrow) have the same offset as dually wheels(they are just wider than a dually wheel) so i can run them without any modification to the hubs. Really, stock H1 wheels only fit H1's (duh) and DRW hubbed trucks because of their enormous offset. But I will be getting rid of the dually fender.
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Thanks for explaining that, GCncsuHD.I didnt understand the concept when I first heard of it. But i do know it works. As to using actual steel shot, i have never had a problem with the zinc plated ones rusting. At most they lose their shine but thats about it. And i will not be using the aluminum rims with these tires so no worry about "shot peening" the rims. As for your question, I will be keeping the DRW hubs front and back. Stock H1 military rims (which i have ordered and should be here tomorrow) have the same offset as dually wheels(they are just wider than a dually wheel) so i can run them without any modification to the hubs. Really, stock H1 wheels only fit H1's (duh) and DRW hubbed trucks because of their enormous offset. But I will be getting rid of the dually fender.
You're right, I didn't think about the huge backspacing on the H1, will the beadlock H1's clear the HUGE drums on your DRW? I know when I went from 16.5s to 16s on my 78 K30 there was very little clearance. I've just never heard of mounting the H1s on a dually before, although the huge backspacing makes sense, I've just always heard of recentering them for other applications.

I had been considering keeping my 78 dually in the rear with 35s or so on some bullet hole style Alcoa's, and then on the front removing the dually hubs, and running a wider SRW bullet hole style wheel to match, so it would still have the same style wheels front and rear, but still something wide in the front.

And as far as what I said about shot peening the wheels, I'm not really afraid for it damaging the wheels, as much as the steel shot will be louder at low speeds than plastic. I've seen wheels that were a little beat up/paint missing on the insides of wheels after using steel shot, but nothing that looked like it would harm the integrity of the wheel.
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You're right, I didn't think about the huge backspacing on the H1, will the beadlock H1's clear the HUGE drums on your DRW? I know when I went from 16.5s to 16s on my 78 K30 there was very little clearance. I've just never heard of mounting the H1s on a dually before, although the huge backspacing makes sense, I've just always heard of recentering them for other applications.

I had been considering keeping my 78 dually in the rear with 35s or so on some bullet hole style Alcoa's, and then on the front removing the dually hubs, and running a wider SRW bullet hole style wheel to match, so it would still have the same style wheels front and rear, but still something wide in the front.

And as far as what I said about shot peening the wheels, I'm not really afraid for it damaging the wheels, as much as the steel shot will be louder at low speeds than plastic. I've seen wheels that were a little beat up/paint missing on the insides of wheels after using steel shot, but nothing that looked like it would harm the integrity of the wheel.
The H1's are 16.5 inches and my alcoas are only 16 inches. As for the beadlock part, since they are internally beadlocked, it doesnt mess with rim diameter so there should be more than enough clearance for those monster dually drums. Just like you I am not worried about the steel shot in the wheels. I just have never run em in aluminum wheels so I didnt know if they damaged em of not. But good to know nothin really happens.

As for your K30, that sounds like a cool idea. My auto shop teacher is buying my alcoas and is doing something similar to what you are describing. Putting the duallys on the back and using a SRW axle and matching wheels for the front.
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