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Baged72 · 03-16-2010, 12:47 AM

EDIT** The gauge cluster not dash......

I tried Plastic Welding some custom gauges to the back of my gauge cluster but they seem to keep breaking off, and the only thing on the back of the package that it wont bond to is # Polypropylene plastic & Polyethylene plastic is this either of those?
This stuff is 10,000 PSI strength

Brad · 03-16-2010, 01:41 PM

I'm pretty sure it's ABS plastic. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acrylon...adiene_styrene
Maybe epoxy will work?

*Fitz* · 03-16-2010, 03:01 PM

[QUOTE=Brad;3863751]I'm pretty sure it's ABS plastic. QUOTE]

Nope, ABS is not pourous enough to give epoxy any tooth but if you go to Home Depot or any hardware store and buy ABS plumbers glue (for black plastic pipe) it will do the trick. Just remember, this is a solvent cement...it dissolves the ABS then when the volatile solvent evaporates it allows it to solidify back into the original plastic. In short that means it's a permanent bond and you do not want to get it on anything you don't want melted together.

**Classic Heartbeat** · 03-16-2010, 03:39 PM

Using a solvent cement will work if both plastics are bondible, or will melt with the same solvent. Example PVC (Polyvinyl chloride), ABS (Acrylonitrile butadiene styrene) are 2 chemiclay different compounds based on 2 seperate base materials. (one chlorine based and the other styrene based) This is why both examples that I gave have different adheisives. Solvent base adheisives actualy work by melting the materials that are to be bonded and the twisting of the materials together actualy mixes the two surfaces together and making them one. This is why glues that stick to surfaces are better for adhearing two different types of plastic. WES

mbgmike · 03-16-2010, 05:28 PM

This will work.
Does not hurt to rough it up some to.I worked for Rohm and Haas (Plexiglass) and GE ( lexan) and other companies making plastic. Their are other brands of solvent, many of them that will work.

Baged72 · 03-17-2010, 12:31 AM

Is this stuff safe to put on my gauges?? I am not worried about it not coming off i dont want it to, and if i do need it off i can always die grind it correct??

Brad · 03-18-2010, 02:13 AM

I forgot to mention that MEKP is what works with ABS plastic and acrylic. Be aware that it's really bad for your health but you can get it at any hardware store.

Baged72 · 03-18-2010, 10:13 PM

I dont plan on eating it, thanks.....

midevil1 · 03-18-2010, 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Baged72

I dont plan on eating it, thanks.....

Come on man.... You know you ate the Elmer's "MINTY" Paste in grade school.

knsmodels · 03-18-2010, 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Brad

I forgot to mention that MEKP is what works with ABS plastic and acrylic. Be aware that it's really bad for your health but you can get it at any hardware store.

He is referring to the fumes.......it will hurt ya......

Baged72 · 03-18-2010, 11:16 PM

I noticed my gauges have an aluminum ring they are auto meter sport comp 1's will this stuff still bond to the aluminum "i think it is" & the plastic??

03-16-2010, 12:47 AM	#1
Baged72 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Sac Town, CA Posts: 146	What is our dash made out of??? EDIT** The gauge cluster not dash...... I tried Plastic Welding some custom gauges to the back of my gauge cluster but they seem to keep breaking off, and the only thing on the back of the package that it wont bond to is # Polypropylene plastic & Polyethylene plastic is this either of those? This stuff is 10,000 PSI strength __________________ 72 GMC SB Built 400 SBC B&M TH350 12Bolt Posi 4:11 Bagged Last edited by Baged72; 03-16-2010 at 01:01 AM.

03-16-2010, 01:41 PM	#2
Brad Out of the carpool lane. Join Date: Jan 2000 Location: Clark Co, WA Posts: 5,673	Re: What is our dash made out of??? I'm pretty sure it's ABS plastic. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acrylon...adiene_styrene Maybe epoxy will work? __________________ 1968 C-10 SWB, 5.7 Vortec/700R4/3.73 posi, Torch Red 1968 Camaro, 250/Powerglide, all original (No, I'm not gonna drop a 350 in it!...Jeez!) 2000 Honda VFR in the faster yellow! 2008 Husqvarna TE-610 1967 C-10 SWB 'Six Appeal'-Gone but not forgotten... Last edited by Brad; 03-16-2010 at 01:42 PM.

03-16-2010, 03:01 PM	#3
Fitz Account Suspended Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Tucson Posts: 2,183	Re: What is our dash made out of??? [QUOTE=Brad;3863751]I'm pretty sure it's ABS plastic. QUOTE] Nope, ABS is not pourous enough to give epoxy any tooth but if you go to Home Depot or any hardware store and buy ABS plumbers glue (for black plastic pipe) it will do the trick. Just remember, this is a solvent cement...it dissolves the ABS then when the volatile solvent evaporates it allows it to solidify back into the original plastic. In short that means it's a permanent bond and you do not want to get it on anything you don't want melted together. Last edited by Fitz; 03-16-2010 at 03:02 PM.

03-16-2010, 03:39 PM	#4
Classic Heartbeat Project Junkie! Fishing Poor!! Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Olympia,Wa. 98512 Posts: 10,770	Re: What is our dash made out of??? Using a solvent cement will work if both plastics are bondible, or will melt with the same solvent. Example PVC (Polyvinyl chloride), ABS (Acrylonitrile butadiene styrene) are 2 chemiclay different compounds based on 2 seperate base materials. (one chlorine based and the other styrene based) This is why both examples that I gave have different adheisives. Solvent base adheisives actualy work by melting the materials that are to be bonded and the twisting of the materials together actualy mixes the two surfaces together and making them one. This is why glues that stick to surfaces are better for adhearing two different types of plastic. WES __________________ On-line catolog Classic Heartbeat Pickup Parts WEHEPP@comcast.net Call us Toll Free (888) 338-2502 Like Us on Facebook No appointment necessary. 72 BB Chevy Custom Deluxe / Custom Camper 67 I-6 (Soon to be 5.7 LS1) Panel 68 BB Chevy Short Bed 72 6.0 LQ9 Short Bed Chevy 4X4 Olympia's fastest growing truck parts supplier. Olympia's home for Wayward Chevys

03-16-2010, 05:28 PM	#5
mbgmike Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Pasadena,Tx /Pto Pta DR Posts: 5,415	Re: What is our dash made out of??? This will work. Does not hurt to rough it up some to.I worked for Rohm and Haas (Plexiglass) and GE ( lexan) and other companies making plastic. Their are other brands of solvent, many of them that will work. Attached Images

03-17-2010, 12:31 AM	#6
Baged72 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Sac Town, CA Posts: 146	Re: What is our dash made out of??? Is this stuff safe to put on my gauges?? I am not worried about it not coming off i dont want it to, and if i do need it off i can always die grind it correct?? __________________ 72 GMC SB Built 400 SBC B&M TH350 12Bolt Posi 4:11 Bagged

03-18-2010, 02:13 AM	#7
Brad Out of the carpool lane. Join Date: Jan 2000 Location: Clark Co, WA Posts: 5,673	Re: What is our dash made out of??? I forgot to mention that MEKP is what works with ABS plastic and acrylic. Be aware that it's really bad for your health but you can get it at any hardware store. __________________ 1968 C-10 SWB, 5.7 Vortec/700R4/3.73 posi, Torch Red 1968 Camaro, 250/Powerglide, all original (No, I'm not gonna drop a 350 in it!...Jeez!) 2000 Honda VFR in the faster yellow! 2008 Husqvarna TE-610 1967 C-10 SWB 'Six Appeal'-Gone but not forgotten...

03-18-2010, 10:13 PM	#8
Baged72 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Sac Town, CA Posts: 146	Re: What is our dash made out of??? I dont plan on eating it, thanks..... __________________ 72 GMC SB Built 400 SBC B&M TH350 12Bolt Posi 4:11 Bagged

03-18-2010, 11:16 PM	#11
Baged72 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Sac Town, CA Posts: 146	Re: What is our dash made out of??? I noticed my gauges have an aluminum ring they are auto meter sport comp 1's will this stuff still bond to the aluminum "i think it is" & the plastic?? __________________ 72 GMC SB Built 400 SBC B&M TH350 12Bolt Posi 4:11 Bagged



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