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knucklebuster · 05-08-2003, 03:28 PM

Where can I get photoshop and how expensive is it.Is it hard to use?

Blaz-air · 05-08-2003, 03:47 PM

look on ebay. I saw an older version for 150 bucks. You dont need the most current version if just using for hobby type stuff. Is it hard. Hell yes its hard but just like anything else that is hard you have to buy some books and find tutorials on the internet. I will be a long haul but it is fun software.

Carter

oldcarbuff · 05-09-2003, 10:52 AM

YOu can get by a little cheaper with an off brand like the one put out by Corel (dang, I just forgot the title), but it is worth the effort to do the full Photoshop. If you are a student, or can talk a friendly student into doing it for you, the academic prices they offer aren't too bad. Otherwise, you are talking a pretty good chunk of change.

Not that I would encourage it, but a resourceful fellow on the internet might be able to download a version, wink wink, nudge nudge.

Don't be afraid of the older versions like you might find for sale--it will still be more powerful than you will be able to take advantage of for some time.

Another option is to look for photoshop LE, which is a bare bones version that is often bundled up for cheap with other software. It doesn't allow you to work with layers, but is still pretty potent. It comes with some cheap scanners.

OCB

case_bt · 05-09-2003, 11:04 AM

KAAZA or Bearshare

XXL · 05-09-2003, 11:22 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by oldcarbuff
YOu can get by a little cheaper with an off brand like the one put out by Corel (dang, I just forgot the title),

CorelDRAW! is a raster vectoring software. Photoshop is a bitmap software. These are fundamentally different in what they do.

There is, however, a freeware product you might look at. GIMP. It's part of the GNU project and it has a Windows port. It's actually pretty powerful but the controls are a little different than Pshop... not a problem if you're not already familiar with Pshop's tools. It does not, however save GIF files. This is probably due to AOL/Compuserve's ownership and licensing of the GIF. It will read GIF's but they must be saved back as JPEG or other.

Quote:

Originally posted by case_bt
KAAZA or Bearshare

What you are suggesting is illegal.

Kenneth

oldcarbuff · 05-09-2003, 11:28 AM

Actually, I got off my tookus and looked and it was Corel Painter that I was thinking of, not CorelDraw.

OCB

p.s. thanks for the tip on GIMP. I love open source stuff!

bouncytruck · 05-09-2003, 12:32 PM

Photoshop is around $700. You can get it from places like Zones.com. There are cheaper products like Paint Shop Pro and Microsoft makes a product that I think is called Picture it. Adobe used to make a "lite" photoshop I believe was called photoelements or something like that. I don't know if they still make it. Photoshop can be very in-depth. The best way to learn it is to use it. There are many tutorial books and on-line tutorials available. Some of the on-line stuff is more expensive than the actual appication though.

Roberty · 05-09-2003, 01:25 PM

Get Adobe Photo Deluxe. I have Photoshop also but Photo Deluxe is much easier for newbies to work with. Photoshop is designed more for a graphics business in my opinion. At $700, your average user isn't going to buy it.

brennecke · 05-09-2003, 02:37 PM

I have to agree with XXL. The number of people stealing programs like Photoshop is the reason it costs so much.

Project1970 · 05-10-2003, 12:36 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by brennecke
I have to agree with XXL. The number of people stealing programs like Photoshop is the reason it costs so much.

Somehow I doubt that...it's only in the past few years that stealing software has become as easy as it is now, and Photoshop has been expensive since the beginning of time. Not to mention that I'm sure most of the people who steal it wouldn't have bought it if it weren't available to steal.

case_bt · 05-12-2003, 10:32 AM

are you saying you have never used file sharing software to download anything... for example music

bouncytruck · 05-12-2003, 11:32 AM

When I was at art school in '92, the school was nailed for illegal software. The students loaded the software on the computers and the school didn't bother to remove it. The fine was $200,000.

XXL · 05-12-2003, 11:38 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by case_bt
are you saying you have never used file sharing software to download anything... for example music

Guessing that this question might be for me... my answer is no. I make software products for a living, and I don't like it when people use my energy and expertise for free. I have no problem with free software or open source, but the R&D that goes into my products runs in the millions... and that has to get paid for through software licensing fees. When somebody steals software, it DOES make the price of software go up... no less than when somebody shoplifts a pair of pants.

I'm not trying to make any personal judgements on those who choose to steal software, as I think our society has removed many of the ethical barriers such that it's now considered "normal" behavior. But I do think people should understand that stealing software is indeed stealing, and so at least they are making an active decision to do it or not.

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Blaz-air · 05-12-2003, 12:07 PM

thank you XXL.... the time I have spent on my software is almost uncomprehendable.... but I know that somehow it will get copied and passed around. I just have to except that fact and move on. I will not say that in my earlier "college" years that software was not "borrowed". But now I am wiser and older and need TECH support. Plus I understand the whole makeup of how things work. I make a living using software so using file sharing apps is not a consideration anymore. XXL said it very well of how I feel. And yes I have had to deal with a software police audit, so it does happen.

Blaz-air

brennecke · 05-12-2003, 12:15 PM

If you are asking me, the answer is no. I have never done any file sharing, not even music. There were times it was tempting, but I haven't.

Project1970 · 05-12-2003, 12:45 PM

I suppose I should clarify my point. I didn't mean to say that stealing programs doesn't cause prices to go up (my previous post could be read that way) but I simply meant to point out that Photoshop is one of those programs that will always be expensive no matter how many or how few people buy it. Microsoft Office is another.

Regarding open source...well, the only reason I'm not running Linux as my main OS is because I play too many games.

If it weren't for that, I'd switch in a heartbeat.

brennecke · 05-12-2003, 01:20 PM

True. It is amazing software, and will cost a lot no matter what. Theft just makes it more expensive.

mikep · 05-12-2003, 01:56 PM

Imesh is a great source if you have a cable modem. I look at it this way. Theres absolutely no way I would ever pay what they ask for photoshop. Or even a tenth of what they ask for it so by downloading it I am not costing them any money.

Then again Ive never bought ANY software ever.

Am I a bad man? I dont care!

case_bt · 05-12-2003, 03:23 PM

I don't download software as much as I do music which isn't a whole lot in the first place I download the songs i like and put them on a disc so I don't have to pay 20 bucks for a cd with one good song and the software I download are utilities.
I do have photoshop 5.0 but it came with my digital camera.

I respect everyones point of view thats what discussion boards are for.

Blaz-air · 05-12-2003, 05:38 PM

I have to admit that had this conversation taken place on other boards it would have turn in to a flame war after the first few post. You guys are make this and incredible board to visit. I sold my blazer 2 years ago and still check this site a few times a day. The people are what make this board so great. Yep ...

Blazair

knucklebuster · 05-12-2003, 08:51 PM

And it seemed like such a innocent question!!LOL

05-08-2003, 03:28 PM	#1
knucklebuster Failure is NOT an option! Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: greenwood s.c. Posts: 811	where to get photoshop? Where can I get photoshop and how expensive is it.Is it hard to use? __________________ House payment or truck parts?????.........why does life have to be so complicated? 1969 Chevy Shortbed Fleetside 1969 Camaro ps pb a/c(drove in high school now it's just a yard ornament,but it's next on the list for resto) 1990 Ni$$an hardbody( daily beater that has been really beaten!) 1999 Grand Am GT(wifes ride...never buy a pontiac!!Trust Me)

05-08-2003, 03:47 PM	#2
Blaz-air Digital Dude Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: St. Louis Posts: 610	look on ebay. I saw an older version for 150 bucks. You dont need the most current version if just using for hobby type stuff. Is it hard. Hell yes its hard but just like anything else that is hard you have to buy some books and find tutorials on the internet. I will be a long haul but it is fun software. Carter __________________ Carter Hickman www.hokdigitalpaintbooth.com carterhickmandesigns.com

05-09-2003, 12:32 PM	#7
bouncytruck SKINNY TIRES RULE! Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Bothell, WA Posts: 11,038	Photoshop is around $700. You can get it from places like Zones.com. There are cheaper products like Paint Shop Pro and Microsoft makes a product that I think is called Picture it. Adobe used to make a "lite" photoshop I believe was called photoelements or something like that. I don't know if they still make it. Photoshop can be very in-depth. The best way to learn it is to use it. There are many tutorial books and on-line tutorials available. Some of the on-line stuff is more expensive than the actual appication though. __________________ bouncytruck 1972 K5 The Hauler 1994 K1500 Suburban The Daily2010 Kia Soul Wife's Ride2014 Fiat 500L

05-09-2003, 01:25 PM	#8
Roberty Hot Damn - Here I Am!! Join Date: Feb 2000 Location: Ringgold, Georgia Posts: 726	Get Adobe Photo Deluxe. I have Photoshop also but Photo Deluxe is much easier for newbies to work with. Photoshop is designed more for a graphics business in my opinion. At $700, your average user isn't going to buy it. __________________ My vehicles: '90 Silverado Sport '71 Chevelle SS Convertible '70 C-10 - My Grandfather bought it new - original un-restored Last edited by Roberty; 05-09-2003 at 03:06 PM.

05-09-2003, 02:37 PM	#9
brennecke Registered User Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Missouri Posts: 469	I have to agree with XXL. The number of people stealing programs like Photoshop is the reason it costs so much. __________________ Never tire of doing what is right II Thess. 3:13 Northeast Missouri 71 LWB original 350 3/speed Soon to be 500

05-09-2003, 10:52 AM	#3
oldcarbuff Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Muncie, IN U.S.A. Posts: 60	YOu can get by a little cheaper with an off brand like the one put out by Corel (dang, I just forgot the title), but it is worth the effort to do the full Photoshop. If you are a student, or can talk a friendly student into doing it for you, the academic prices they offer aren't too bad. Otherwise, you are talking a pretty good chunk of change. Not that I would encourage it, but a resourceful fellow on the internet might be able to download a version, wink wink, nudge nudge. Don't be afraid of the older versions like you might find for sale--it will still be more powerful than you will be able to take advantage of for some time. Another option is to look for photoshop LE, which is a bare bones version that is often bundled up for cheap with other software. It doesn't allow you to work with layers, but is still pretty potent. It comes with some cheap scanners. OCB

05-09-2003, 11:04 AM	#4
case_bt Registered User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: willis tx Posts: 374	KAAZA or Bearshare

05-09-2003, 11:28 AM	#6
oldcarbuff Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Muncie, IN U.S.A. Posts: 60	Actually, I got off my tookus and looked and it was Corel Painter that I was thinking of, not CorelDraw. OCB p.s. thanks for the tip on GIMP. I love open source stuff!

05-12-2003, 10:32 AM	#11
case_bt Registered User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: willis tx Posts: 374	are you saying you have never used file sharing software to download anything... for example music

05-12-2003, 11:32 AM	#12
bouncytruck SKINNY TIRES RULE! Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Bothell, WA Posts: 11,038	When I was at art school in '92, the school was nailed for illegal software. The students loaded the software on the computers and the school didn't bother to remove it. The fine was $200,000. __________________ bouncytruck 1972 K5 The Hauler 1994 K1500 Suburban The Daily2010 Kia Soul Wife's Ride2014 Fiat 500L

05-12-2003, 12:07 PM	#14
Blaz-air Digital Dude Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: St. Louis Posts: 610	thank you XXL.... the time I have spent on my software is almost uncomprehendable.... but I know that somehow it will get copied and passed around. I just have to except that fact and move on. I will not say that in my earlier "college" years that software was not "borrowed". But now I am wiser and older and need TECH support. Plus I understand the whole makeup of how things work. I make a living using software so using file sharing apps is not a consideration anymore. XXL said it very well of how I feel. And yes I have had to deal with a software police audit, so it does happen. Blaz-air __________________ Carter Hickman www.hokdigitalpaintbooth.com carterhickmandesigns.com

05-12-2003, 12:15 PM	#15
brennecke Registered User Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Missouri Posts: 469	If you are asking me, the answer is no. I have never done any file sharing, not even music. There were times it was tempting, but I haven't. __________________ Never tire of doing what is right II Thess. 3:13 Northeast Missouri 71 LWB original 350 3/speed Soon to be 500

05-12-2003, 12:45 PM	#16
Project1970 14.1 @ 96MPH Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Mesa, AZ Posts: 2,811	I suppose I should clarify my point. I didn't mean to say that stealing programs doesn't cause prices to go up (my previous post could be read that way) but I simply meant to point out that Photoshop is one of those programs that will always be expensive no matter how many or how few people buy it. Microsoft Office is another. Regarding open source...well, the only reason I'm not running Linux as my main OS is because I play too many games. If it weren't for that, I'd switch in a heartbeat. __________________ Project1970 - LS1 Swap Complete!

05-12-2003, 01:20 PM	#17
brennecke Registered User Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Missouri Posts: 469	True. It is amazing software, and will cost a lot no matter what. Theft just makes it more expensive. __________________ Never tire of doing what is right II Thess. 3:13 Northeast Missouri 71 LWB original 350 3/speed Soon to be 500

05-12-2003, 01:56 PM	#18
mikep Used to have a truck Join Date: May 2002 Location: port orchard WA Posts: 1,552	Imesh is a great source if you have a cable modem. I look at it this way. Theres absolutely no way I would ever pay what they ask for photoshop. Or even a tenth of what they ask for it so by downloading it I am not costing them any money. Then again Ive never bought ANY software ever. Am I a bad man? I dont care! __________________ No truck :-(



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05-12-2003, 03:23 PM	#19
case_bt Registered User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: willis tx Posts: 374	I don't download software as much as I do music which isn't a whole lot in the first place I download the songs i like and put them on a disc so I don't have to pay 20 bucks for a cd with one good song and the software I download are utilities. I do have photoshop 5.0 but it came with my digital camera. I respect everyones point of view thats what discussion boards are for.

05-12-2003, 05:38 PM	#20
Blaz-air Digital Dude Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: St. Louis Posts: 610	I have to admit that had this conversation taken place on other boards it would have turn in to a flame war after the first few post. You guys are make this and incredible board to visit. I sold my blazer 2 years ago and still check this site a few times a day. The people are what make this board so great. Yep ... Blazair __________________ Carter Hickman www.hokdigitalpaintbooth.com carterhickmandesigns.com

05-12-2003, 08:51 PM	#21
knucklebuster Failure is NOT an option! Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: greenwood s.c. Posts: 811	And it seemed like such a innocent question!!LOL __________________ House payment or truck parts?????.........why does life have to be so complicated? 1969 Chevy Shortbed Fleetside 1969 Camaro ps pb a/c(drove in high school now it's just a yard ornament,but it's next on the list for resto) 1990 Ni$$an hardbody( daily beater that has been really beaten!) 1999 Grand Am GT(wifes ride...never buy a pontiac!!Trust Me)

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