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Old 05-05-2010, 06:56 PM   #1
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Oil filter question

This is an odd question. I have '72 C30 402cid. I work her alot haulin scrap. The standard oil filter is too difficult to R/R because it's only 6". It gets lost up inside the filter cavity. I want to install a commercial type filter. The type that holds 2 qts. of oil. Like a Baldwin or Fleet brand. Does anyone know what the stock number is for a filter to fit this engine? Thanks.........
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Old 05-05-2010, 08:15 PM   #2
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I ALWAYS LIKE TO USE THE WIX 2 QT. FILTERS ON ALL OF MY MOTORS. I'M NOT SURE OF THE PT.# , BUT WIX MAKES THE NAPA GOLD SERIES FILTERS ALSO. THE BAD NEWS IS THAT THEY COST ABOUT $12 INSTEAD OF THE $2.99 FRAM FILTERS AT WALMART. (YOU NEVER SEEM TO GET MORE THAN YOU PAY FOR WITH FILTERS) CUT A COUPLE OF THE CHEAP ONES APART WITH A PIPE CUTTER & THEN A WIX FILTER & DECIDE FOR YOURSELF. I'LL BET YOU NEVER USE ONE AGAIN. YOU'LL NEVER WEAR OUT THE OIL IN YOUR MOTOR, IT JUST GETS CONTAMINATED & DIRTY WITH CARBON. CLEAN OIL IS VERY VERY IMPORTANT TO AN ENGINES LONGEVITY. IT KEEPS ALL THOSE LITTLE PARTS SLIDING OFF OF EACH OTHER. JOHN
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Old 05-06-2010, 03:38 AM   #3
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Re: Oil filter question

Thanks for taking the time to answer my question John. I'll do a search for Wix filters. I'm sure I'll be able to come up with a part #. Yeah you're correct about getting what you pay for. In order for mfg's. to get their products into volumn sellers like Wal-Mart, they MUST get their wholesale price down. Consequently, they have to find a way to lower the cost. The easiest way is by LOWERING THE QUALITY of the stock sold to a retailer such as Wal-Mart. That way they are able to make their mfg'ing margins and sell in volumn. I worked for a large tire mfg. years ago. That's exactly how it worked. That same brand tire was mfg'd. to differing quality standards depending on which retailer was purchasing it. ALL same brand products are NOT the same.
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Old 05-06-2010, 07:32 AM   #4
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Re: Oil filter question

here is a great write-up on oil filters by an independent source, it says[as i have heard] stay away from fram!
http://minimopar.knizefamily.net/oil.../opinions.html
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Old 05-06-2010, 09:24 AM   #5
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JOHN.. IF YOU GO TO NAPA & EXPLAIN WHAT YOU WANT (JUST TELL EM YOU WANT A NAPA GOLD 2 QT. FILTER FOR A PRE 86 V-8 CHEVY) THEY'LL KNOW EXACTLY WHAT YOU WANT. (NO 19 YEAR NO NOTHING KID THAT CAN'T FIND YOUR APPLICATION IN THE COMPUTER) I'VE FOUND THAT EVEN THE WORST NAPA STORES HAVE COUNTER PEOPLE WITH AT LEAST SOME KNOWLEDGE OF PARTS. JOHN
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Old 05-06-2010, 12:50 PM   #6
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Re: Oil filter question

some napas even have a fram verses napa gold filter cut up example in a plastic case.
I did this myself quite a few years ago and was amazed at the lack of quality inside a fram.
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Old 05-06-2010, 04:26 PM   #7
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Fram ph373 or Purolater L40084 are 2 qt filters that will work
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Old 05-06-2010, 04:32 PM   #8
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I purchase my oil filters from NAPA, but I purchase them when the company runs a filter sale (Which is twice a year in my area). That puts the price in line with those Wallymort prices on the others and I have them in stock on my shelf,so I can change oil anytime that I want.
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Old 05-06-2010, 07:26 PM   #9
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Thanks EVERYONE! I found a site: fleetfilter.com (sorry I can't figure out how to add hypertext). Anyway; on there they took many different brand filters and cut them open and compared them to the NAPA gold (made by Wix). Very interesting data. Yep.....ya git what ya pay for.
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Thanks EVERYONE! I found a site: fleetfilter.com (sorry I can't figure out how to add hypertext).
Highlight the address, click Edit and then click Copy.
Then in your post, click Edit and then click Paste.

http://www.fleetfilter.com/
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Old 05-06-2010, 07:51 PM   #11
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fram is like a kleenex tossed in a metal canister.


No... make that a generic facial tissue
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Old 05-06-2010, 11:07 PM   #13
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the NAPA number for a 2 quart is 1794.
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Old 05-07-2010, 12:17 AM   #14
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Fram stuff used to be good, now it all sucks.
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This is an odd question. I have '72 C30 402cid. I work her alot haulin scrap. The standard oil filter is too difficult to R/R because it's only 6". It gets lost up inside the filter cavity. I want to install a commercial type filter. The type that holds 2 qts. of oil. Like a Baldwin or Fleet brand. Does anyone know what the stock number is for a filter to fit this engine? Thanks.........
1060 , 1062 is what a lot of the bb's run for wix, well napa wix numbers same thing without a 4 in front of them.
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JOHN.. IF YOU GO TO NAPA & EXPLAIN WHAT YOU WANT (JUST TELL EM YOU WANT A NAPA GOLD 2 QT. FILTER FOR A PRE 86 V-8 CHEVY) THEY'LL KNOW EXACTLY WHAT YOU WANT. (NO 19 YEAR NO NOTHING KID THAT CAN'T FIND YOUR APPLICATION IN THE COMPUTER) I'VE FOUND THAT EVEN THE WORST NAPA STORES HAVE COUNTER PEOPLE WITH AT LEAST SOME KNOWLEDGE OF PARTS. JOHN
hey i worked there when i was 19, and i could have found the 2 quarter
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hey i worked there when i was 19, and i could have found the 2 quarter
NO OFFENCE INTENDED. YOU ARE PROBABLY THE EXCEPTION. USSUALLY WHEN A COUNTER KID IS LOOKING FOR ONE OF MY TRUCKS IN HIS COMPUTER I SAY... IT'S BLUE.. IF THAT HELPS. I DON'T HAVE MUCH USE FOR MOST OF THE COOKIE CUTTER PARTS CHAIN STORES UNLESS I NEED A COUPLE OF GALLONS OF OIL OR ANTI-FREEZE. & THEN I BETTER KNOW EXZACTLY WHAT I NEED. JOHN
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Re: Oil filter question

John, I totally agree with you on cutting the filters open. I work At a parts house and we Sell Wix and as soon as we cut open a AC Delco, Fram and a Wix. More people have been buying Wix. I wouldnt put a Fram Filter on my sisters car.
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