The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network







Register or Log In To remove these advertisements.

Go Back   The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network > 47 - Current classic GM Trucks > The 1967 - 1972 Chevrolet & GMC Pickups Message Board

Web 67-72chevytrucks.com


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 07-02-2010, 09:48 PM   #1
FL71C10
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Orlando, Florida
Posts: 2,508
1992 tbi 305 motor in a 71

I am still looking for a motor for my truck. I have a guy willing to trade for the 68 swb frame I am selling. He is offering a 1992 tbi 305 out of a 1992 caprice. It has the tbi, intake and exhaust manifolds, starter, flexplate, but no alternator or ac pulleys. He said the distributor seemed like it had a problem so he put an hei dist in it and got it fired up spraying gas in the intake.

He has thecomputer and all of the sensors but the harness was cut from the engine compartment side and at the computer, so I'd have to resplice everything or get a painless wiring kit.

It had a 700r4 behid it so obviously that's what I would try to match it up to.

What do I need to watch for? What parts/electronic components do I need to make sure I get?

Would you guys do the trade?
__________________
71 Chevy C10 Shortbed Stepside. LT1 with
4l60E. Just got back from painter, in assembly now.
FL71C10 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-03-2010, 10:57 AM   #2
FL71C10
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Orlando, Florida
Posts: 2,508
Re: 1992 tbi 305 motor in a 71

Can anyone help me on this?
__________________
71 Chevy C10 Shortbed Stepside. LT1 with
4l60E. Just got back from painter, in assembly now.
FL71C10 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-03-2010, 12:35 PM   #3
KcLevi
Registered User
 
KcLevi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Kansas City ks
Posts: 87
Re: 1992 tbi 305 motor in a 71

For one thing the dist. he took out and replaced would most likely need replaced. Even if that motor was still in car and he just swap dist. with HEI it wouldnt run as im sure computer has something to do with dist.
__________________
1970 C-10. Black on outside Blue on the inside. Will be at least a 4-6 drop ASAP.
KcLevi is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-03-2010, 12:59 PM   #4
FL71C10
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Orlando, Florida
Posts: 2,508
Re: 1992 tbi 305 motor in a 71

Yeah, I figured I would need a new distributor. Are they expensive?
__________________
71 Chevy C10 Shortbed Stepside. LT1 with
4l60E. Just got back from painter, in assembly now.
FL71C10 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-03-2010, 01:20 PM   #5
Warrens69GMC
Registered User
 
Warrens69GMC's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Safford,AZ
Posts: 3,612
Re: 1992 tbi 305 motor in a 71

I like the 305's, but I think you should pass on this trade. You really aren't getting your moneys worth from this used 305. Probably has high miles.

From the factory they came with 170-190 Hp and around 225-250 FT/lbs torque. In used form this would be less, plus you don't know how it has been maintenced.


For the wiring harness he will provide, you can throw it in the trash, and use the painless kit- why try to "fix" 18 yr old wiring to make it fit - (my .02). For the distributor, is is essentionally a core. You don't know if its good or not, and if you will be going thru the trouble of putting TBI on your truck, you should get a rebuilt/new dist.

any cam swap to the 305 to make it run with more hp/torque requires fuel injectors and /or fuel pressure modification.
Warrens69GMC is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-03-2010, 01:30 PM   #6
Lee H
Registered User
 
Lee H's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Upland Ca
Posts: 4,147
Re: 1992 tbi 305 motor in a 71

I'll take a stab at this. Unless your a seasoned mechanic with ODB1 diagnostic experience I'd stay away from this. You'll need to piece together a complete wiring harness with all the sensors, electronics, etc. Then if the distributor, FI, and motor are in good shape you should be able to get it running. If on the other hand you are more of a week end warrior or shade tree mechanic I'd recommend starting with a GM crate engine, cheap and comes with a good warranty. Your leaving a lot of power on the table with a 305 and I'll bet good money it's near warn out and will need major work soon, especially if you push it. And, your pretty much limited on the power side with a computer controlled, TBI 305. With a carbureted 350 crate you can easily increase power as funds become available.
Lee H is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-03-2010, 01:46 PM   #7
Warrens69GMC
Registered User
 
Warrens69GMC's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Safford,AZ
Posts: 3,612
Re: 1992 tbi 305 motor in a 71

The 305 can be built to respectable levels for a daily driver, using the factory roller cam provisions and a little port work.

Rebuild the shortblock with flat top pistons, add 350 ramjet cam ( http://paceperformance.com/index.asp...D&ProdID=22922 )and use the stock heads (TBI) or 96-2000 vortec 305 heads.

You should be around 300 hp and 300ft lbs of torque.
Warrens69GMC is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-03-2010, 01:48 PM   #8
long69
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: lost angeles
Posts: 159
Re: 1992 tbi 305 motor in a 71

pass on it, at the end of the day i'd bet you'd spend more $ on this than you would buying a krate motor along with everythang you wood need to install it.
what i'm trying to say is you'll have to spend at least another grand to get something going that you really have no history on, just someones word.
long69 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-03-2010, 02:55 PM   #9
FL71C10
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Orlando, Florida
Posts: 2,508
Re: 1992 tbi 305 motor in a 71

How much is a crate motor?
__________________
71 Chevy C10 Shortbed Stepside. LT1 with
4l60E. Just got back from painter, in assembly now.
FL71C10 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-03-2010, 03:18 PM   #10
Warrens69GMC
Registered User
 
Warrens69GMC's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Safford,AZ
Posts: 3,612
Re: 1992 tbi 305 motor in a 71

Chevy 350 vortec replacement is 2134.73
http://sdparts.com/details/gm-goodwr...gines/12530282
Warrens69GMC is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-03-2010, 03:38 PM   #11
FRENCHBLUE72
PROJECT 7DEUCE
 
FRENCHBLUE72's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: GRANTS PASS OR
Posts: 21,608
Re: 1992 tbi 305 motor in a 71

I would also pass on it the wirein and sensors and dizzy that would require to be right would cost a fortune..
__________________
GO BIG GREEN GO DUCKS



MEMBER #6377

72 k-5 daily driver 6'' lift 35'' 350-350-205 slowly getting rust free.

Project "7DEUCE"

check out my build http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=267665



Tim Powell..R.I.P EastSideLowlife..... R.I.P..
FRENCHBLUE72 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-03-2010, 07:03 PM   #12
raycow
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: San Francisco, CA USA
Posts: 2,454
Re: 1992 tbi 305 motor in a 71

Please pardon the choice of words, but isn't there a relatively "painless" way to put a carb on a TBI manifold?

I bought a 305 to replace my blown 283 and didn't want to deal with the FI, so I just swapped the 283 heads and intake, but it looked like a carb might have worked on the 305 intake.

Ray
raycow is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-03-2010, 10:33 PM   #13
FL71C10
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Orlando, Florida
Posts: 2,508
Re: 1992 tbi 305 motor in a 71

Worst case, couldn't I just get an intake and carb + dist and run it that way?
__________________
71 Chevy C10 Shortbed Stepside. LT1 with
4l60E. Just got back from painter, in assembly now.
FL71C10 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-03-2010, 11:44 PM   #14
Warrens69GMC
Registered User
 
Warrens69GMC's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Safford,AZ
Posts: 3,612
Re: 1992 tbi 305 motor in a 71

Yes you can. But you can usually find the same 305 on craigslist for free!!
Warrens69GMC is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-03-2010, 11:51 PM   #15
raycow
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: San Francisco, CA USA
Posts: 2,454
Re: 1992 tbi 305 motor in a 71

Absolutely yes. I don't know if there are factory carb intakes for those heads, but there are certainly aftermarket ones. The heads changed sometime around 87. Also, it is supposed to be possible to modify earlier intakes to fit the heads. I didn't want to try it because I already had the earlier heads and I wanted to see what the engine looked like inside anyway.

Ray
raycow is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-04-2010, 08:47 AM   #16
FL71C10
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Orlando, Florida
Posts: 2,508
Re: 1992 tbi 305 motor in a 71

Quote:
Originally Posted by Warrens69GMC View Post
Yes you can. But you can usually find the same 305 on craigslist for free!!
You can find an engine for free on craigslist?
__________________
71 Chevy C10 Shortbed Stepside. LT1 with
4l60E. Just got back from painter, in assembly now.
FL71C10 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-04-2010, 09:28 AM   #17
GASoline71
"I ain't nobody, dork."
 
GASoline71's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Whidbey Island, Washington
Posts: 8,948
Re: 1992 tbi 305 motor in a 71

For dang near free... the 305 is the bastard child of GM engines. Why GM even made that engine is beyond me.

I would pass on this deal too...

Gary
__________________
'cuz chicks dig scars...

My 1972 GMC 1500 Super Custom (Creeping Death) "long term" build thread.

The Rebuild of Creeping Death after the wreck

Quote:
Originally Posted by LONGHAIR View Post
I would never rebuild a 305.
Quote:
Originally Posted by prostreetC-10 View Post
I love using vacuum gauges as part of the carb tuning process. I hook the gauge to the inside of my garbage can and leave it there.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Marv D View Post
Remember Murphys 2nd law of mechanical relationships... "OPPOSING COMPONENTS ATTEMPTING TO OCCUPY THE SAME SPACE, AT THE SAME TIME, GENERALLY END UP OCCUPYING ADJOINING SPACE AT THE BOTTOM OF THE OIL PAN"
Quote:
Originally Posted by cableguy0 View Post
Its cheaper to listen to advice given when you ask for help than it is to ignore everyone and wait for carnage.
GASoline71 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-04-2010, 01:20 PM   #18
raycow
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: San Francisco, CA USA
Posts: 2,454
Re: 1992 tbi 305 motor in a 71

I paid $100 for my 305 10 years ago and it is still running. Rodders have no use for these engines, so that's why you are seeing the opinions that are posted here. However, if you just want a cheap power plant so you can get something on the road, I can't think of a better choice for the money.

Ray
raycow is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-04-2010, 02:25 PM   #19
Warrens69GMC
Registered User
 
Warrens69GMC's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Safford,AZ
Posts: 3,612
Re: 1992 tbi 305 motor in a 71

Quote:
Originally Posted by FL71C10 View Post
You can find an engine for free on craigslist?
I have went and picked up 3 FREE 305's from craigslist

1-77, 2- 90's
Warrens69GMC is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-04-2010, 04:41 PM   #20
GASoline71
"I ain't nobody, dork."
 
GASoline71's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Whidbey Island, Washington
Posts: 8,948
Re: 1992 tbi 305 motor in a 71

Quote:
Originally Posted by raycow View Post
I paid $100 for my 305 10 years ago and it is still running. Rodders have no use for these engines, so that's why you are seeing the opinions that are posted here. However, if you just want a cheap power plant so you can get something on the road, I can't think of a better choice for the money.

Ray
I will agree with that 100%...

Gary
__________________
'cuz chicks dig scars...

My 1972 GMC 1500 Super Custom (Creeping Death) "long term" build thread.

The Rebuild of Creeping Death after the wreck

Quote:
Originally Posted by LONGHAIR View Post
I would never rebuild a 305.
Quote:
Originally Posted by prostreetC-10 View Post
I love using vacuum gauges as part of the carb tuning process. I hook the gauge to the inside of my garbage can and leave it there.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Marv D View Post
Remember Murphys 2nd law of mechanical relationships... "OPPOSING COMPONENTS ATTEMPTING TO OCCUPY THE SAME SPACE, AT THE SAME TIME, GENERALLY END UP OCCUPYING ADJOINING SPACE AT THE BOTTOM OF THE OIL PAN"
Quote:
Originally Posted by cableguy0 View Post
Its cheaper to listen to advice given when you ask for help than it is to ignore everyone and wait for carnage.
GASoline71 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-05-2010, 02:08 AM   #21
barryvanhook
Registered User
 
barryvanhook's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Mesa, AZ
Posts: 148
Re: 1992 tbi 305 motor in a 71

If you are set for a 305, look for a later one with the vortec heads ... I had a 97 with that engine, and it was a nice setup. I think it was rated at around 250 hp.

Barry
__________________
Barry L. Van Hook
'69 Chevy Frankentruck
barryvanhook is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 11:50 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Copyright 1997-2022 67-72chevytrucks.com