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slugish · 08-13-2010, 09:36 PM

Ok guys , Ive been redoing my interior for some time now & have a problem getting the stock bezel (one with idiot lights)to fit a 70 something cluster with the guages . DoIneed to get a bezel off one that had the guages instead of the idiot lights. Ive posted this problem before & the consensus was that all were the same. Oh the bezel Ive got is off a 84 > maybe these wont fit a 80 & under cluster. ?? At the end of my rope

RandyP · 08-13-2010, 09:49 PM

84 won't have the cut out for the wiper switch that you should have on the dash. I'm pretty sure 81 up is different from the 80 and down, slight shape change, I think. Big think there.

Jonboy · 08-13-2010, 10:06 PM

I am 100% sure the same dash bezel was used with lighs and gauges. Please post some pics of the area you are having trouble with. Also make sure that the cluster is under the metal on the left side of the dash, and all of the screw holes line up.

RuralRoute C-30 · 08-13-2010, 10:43 PM

Might take note in the LMC catalog there are different bezels for different years. Could explain the problem.
http://www.lmctruck.com/icatalog/cc/full.aspx?Page=100
http://www.lmctruck.com/icatalog/cc/full.aspx?Page=102

Since the early vs the later dashes are different that could explain any difference in the bezel lining up with what you have.

Good Luck,
Mark

menace121978 · 08-13-2010, 10:55 PM

Randy is correct. there is a change in shape on the 73-80 and 81-up. i had a nos bezel for an 80's dash i tore up a few years back trying to fit it on my 78 cluster. there isn't a difference between the gauges and idiot lights cluster unless of course they are from the different years

slugish · 08-14-2010, 10:17 AM

thanks for the replies . iwill post pics of the problem area later today. Im beginning to think Iwill have to get a 80 & down bezel . Then how would that line up with a 81-87 dash pad.

RandyP · 08-14-2010, 11:31 AM

It won't line up, they are different.

Jonboy · 08-14-2010, 10:22 PM

You can use an older bezel with a newer (81-up) pad, but you cannot use the later bezel with an earlier dash. The later bezel is thicker at the top, where it comes up to the pad.

slugish · 08-14-2010, 11:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jonboy

I am 100% sure the same dash bezel was used with lighs and gauges. Please post some pics of the area you are having trouble with. Also make sure that the cluster is under the metal on the left side of the dash, and all of the screw holes line up.

good advice there Jonboy > took everything out again & this time got the cluster on the left side under the metal (was on the outside before ) Problem solved > Thanks again

Jonboy · 08-15-2010, 08:20 AM

Excellent.

08-13-2010, 09:36 PM	#1
slugish Slugish Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Earlysville, Va. Posts: 1,024	am I the only one who has had this problem Ok guys , Ive been redoing my interior for some time now & have a problem getting the stock bezel (one with idiot lights)to fit a 70 something cluster with the guages . DoIneed to get a bezel off one that had the guages instead of the idiot lights. Ive posted this problem before & the consensus was that all were the same. Oh the bezel Ive got is off a 84 > maybe these wont fit a 80 & under cluster. ?? At the end of my rope

08-13-2010, 09:49 PM	#2
RandyP Getting Old; Going Broke Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Owasso OK Posts: 2,764	Re: am Ithe only one who has had this problem 84 won't have the cut out for the wiper switch that you should have on the dash. I'm pretty sure 81 up is different from the 80 and down, slight shape change, I think. Big think there. __________________ *Why is every used 350 sbc out of a corvette?* There's only two things that excite a man, expensive toys and real expensive toys. *VEGETARIAN: That's an old Indian word meaning "I don't hunt so good."* When the going gets tough, switch to power tools.

08-13-2010, 10:06 PM	#3
Jonboy Slots go on anything! Join Date: May 2003 Location: Richardson, TX Posts: 5,957	Re: am Ithe only one who has had this problem I am 100% sure the same dash bezel was used with lighs and gauges. Please post some pics of the area you are having trouble with. Also make sure that the cluster is under the metal on the left side of the dash, and all of the screw holes line up. __________________ 1974 Jimmy- 5.3/4L80e/NP241

08-13-2010, 10:43 PM	#4
RuralRoute C-30 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: East Central Illinois Posts: 511	Re: am Ithe only one who has had this problem Might take note in the LMC catalog there are different bezels for different years. Could explain the problem. http://www.lmctruck.com/icatalog/cc/full.aspx?Page=100 http://www.lmctruck.com/icatalog/cc/full.aspx?Page=102 Since the early vs the later dashes are different that could explain any difference in the bezel lining up with what you have. Good Luck, Mark __________________ 1985 Chevy C-30 Hydraulic Dump Bed 2001 Saturn SC2 (go to work car) 2010 PT Cruiser (wife's car) "Reality is just a hallucination brought on by lack of alcohol."

08-13-2010, 10:55 PM	#5
menace121978 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: orangevale, ca Posts: 3,626	Re: am Ithe only one who has had this problem Randy is correct. there is a change in shape on the 73-80 and 81-up. i had a nos bezel for an 80's dash i tore up a few years back trying to fit it on my 78 cluster. there isn't a difference between the gauges and idiot lights cluster unless of course they are from the different years __________________ "Dennis the Menace" 1978 Silverado (2wd, 1/2 ton, short bed)complete nut & bolt frame off restomod LQ9/4L80E MY LS SWAP/FRAME OFF BUILD BOOK 2006 TBSS way too much to list

08-14-2010, 10:17 AM	#6
slugish Slugish Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Earlysville, Va. Posts: 1,024	Re: am Ithe only one who has had this problem thanks for the replies . iwill post pics of the problem area later today. Im beginning to think Iwill have to get a 80 & down bezel . Then how would that line up with a 81-87 dash pad.

08-14-2010, 11:31 AM	#7
RandyP Getting Old; Going Broke Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Owasso OK Posts: 2,764	Re: am I the only one who has had this problem It won't line up, they are different. __________________ *Why is every used 350 sbc out of a corvette?* There's only two things that excite a man, expensive toys and real expensive toys. *VEGETARIAN: That's an old Indian word meaning "I don't hunt so good."* When the going gets tough, switch to power tools.

08-14-2010, 10:22 PM	#8
Jonboy Slots go on anything! Join Date: May 2003 Location: Richardson, TX Posts: 5,957	Re: am I the only one who has had this problem You can use an older bezel with a newer (81-up) pad, but you cannot use the later bezel with an earlier dash. The later bezel is thicker at the top, where it comes up to the pad. __________________ 1974 Jimmy- 5.3/4L80e/NP241

08-15-2010, 08:20 AM	#10
Jonboy Slots go on anything! Join Date: May 2003 Location: Richardson, TX Posts: 5,957	Re: am I the only one who has had this problem Excellent. __________________ 1974 Jimmy- 5.3/4L80e/NP241



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