Completely aluminum 427 for sale(not mine).

[treveiger]

Went to a GMC Dealer to price crate motors and get a part for my fathers new truck and saw this there, it is completely aluminum 427. The price they want for it is $30,000. Thats a little to much for my blood lol but i love admiring it.

[AusTx68]

Dang, at the price you could buy two ZZ572's completely dressed. How the hell can they justify selling that for $30k

[treveiger]

I dont know honestly, its been sitting there for over a year and the guy said its a anniversary edition and only a little over 100 were made but i still cant see why they want that much for it. Im sure somebody with a lot of money will come in and pick that thing up in time.

[AusTx68]

Well, if anyone is looking for a discount, you can save up to $7k below

Summit Racing $27.5k
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/NAL-19166392/

Pace Performance $24k
http://paceperformance.com/index.asp...&ProdID=226856

[71blksuper4x4]

The ZL1.... the reason they are so expensive is the fact as they were the wildest engine GM ever created. Only the new 572's can bring the same excitement. They were more priced at the height of the muscle car hype, and there actually is a few left. It is correct that they didn't make this 2nd batch for a very long run. 69-1969 camaros and 2- 69 vettes came stock with this beast. Trevor

[Tom Vogel]

Actually, youre paying an extra 20Gs for a 5 grand block.

[AusTx68]

Originally Posted by Tom Vogel

Actually, youre paying an extra 20Gs for a 5 grand block.

Yep, that's exactly what I found. It's the Armani of blocks

[68jewel]

One could build an all aluminum engine for far less money with better, forged internals than the ones used by GM. Aluminum blocks like Arias and Merlin cost around $5k like another member said. But, just for street driving, I would say an engine like this is useless as far as the amount of money spent. It would be for the uber-rich guys who have trailer queens and just want to say, "look, I have an all aluminum 427 under the hood." Now, don't get me wrong...this is a beautiful engine. I saw one at the Dallas Autorama. And maybe (notice I said maybe) if I had an extra 5 million laying around I would fuel inject one of these and stick it somewhere. LOL!!

['72customdeluxe]

A cam only ls1 would put it to shame. For a couple grand installed. All aluminum too!
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[treveiger]

Ya im sure who buys this motor will roll there car out of the trailer and push it to the spot in the car shows lol. Its a cool motor but ill stick with the simple less trouble getting in motors.

[68GMCCustom]

build a "new" '69 ZL1 Camaro or early C3 Vette with it.........then take it to B-J.

[C10-Driver]

That is the Anniversary edition 427 and, the reason they are so expensive is that they only made 427 of them (notice 324/427 on the valve cover). For anyone who is interested in one of these (or any GM Performance engines for that matter) keep your eyes and ears open. With all the dealerships closing, there are some pretty good deals available. There is a local GM shop up here in Canada who acquired a couple of these from places that had their dealership yanked and I have heard they can be had for around $20K.

[697498chevy]

Maybe I'm crazy , but I'm thinking a '69 vette was $6,000 and the ZL-1 option was $3,000 . Is this possible ?

[69GMC910]

aren't these engines 450hp? That's like 67 dollars per horsepower!

[72Levi]

For $20-30k per engine it better do more than 450hp. My CTS-V does 400hp.
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[69GMC910]

Apparently it's grossley underrated at 430hp....

GM Performance Parts (GMPP) announced production plans for a new Anniversary 427 limited-edition crate engine and a regular-production ZZ427 crate engine. The Anniversary 427 is a modern re-creation of the mythical, all-aluminum ZL-1 427 engine. It is underrated at 430 horsepower and 450 lb.-ft. of torque – like the production engine was in 1969. Only 427 of the special engines will be built.

The new ZZ427 crate engine features most the Anniversary 427's high-performance design features and components, but is built with a more economical cast iron cylinder block – but still producing approximately 430 horses and 450 lb-ft. of twisting power. The ZZ427 enters the GM Performance Parts crate engine lineup as a regular-production power plant.

"Simply mentioning the term 'ZL-1' stirs the emotions of Chevy performance enthusiasts," said Lisa Reffett, marketing manager, GM Performance Parts. "By using the tooling that built the original engines, we're able to revive the spirit of that legend and re-introduce it to not only enthusiasts who missed their opportunity to own one 40 years ago, but to a new generation of Chevy high-performance fans."

The 427 copies of the Anniversary 427 go on sale in the first quarter of 2008 through GM dealers and authorized GM Performance Parts retailers. Each engine also comes with a complementing Anniversary Edition package that includes a certificate of authenticity, an engine plate with specifications and a matching number owner's kit to add to its exclusivity.

"The Anniversary 427 is a special engine, and the lucky customers who buy one will know they got something unique," said Reffett. "Cars are collectable and we're sure the Anniversary 427 will be, too."

ZL-1 tooling

Production of the Anniversary 427 was inspired by the discovery of the signature aluminum block's tooling several years ago. It was discarded after production of the original ZL-1 engine halted in the early 1970s.

GM Performance Parts oversaw the refurbishment of the tooling and updated some design features of the cylinder block, such as the addition of screw-in galley plugs. The block casting also was strengthened in key areas. The result is a modern interpretation of the legendary engine that is infused with all of the high-performance attributes of the original.

The all-new Anniversary 427 has a classic, single four-barrel carburetor induction system that is similar to the four-barrel setup of the original ZL-1 engine. (GMPP offered a port-fuel-injected "Ram Jet ZL-1" crate engine a few years ago, with a block based on the refurbished aluminum ZL-1.)

Anniversary 427 and ZZ427 engine details

The limited-production Anniversary 427 – GM part number 19166392 – and regular-production ZZ427 – 19166393 – share similar design traits that combine with carefully selected components from the GM Performance Parts catalog to produce approximately 430 horsepower and 450 lb.-ft. of torque; it's just that the Anniversary 427 uses the special, re-tooled aluminum cylinder block casting.

These new 427 engines accept all of GMPP's front-end accessory drive systems and lightweight starters. Customers will need to supply fuel system and exhaust system components as needed for their application.

ZL-1 history

The 427-cubic-inch ZL-1 engine was born in the late 1960s as a lightweight weapon for use in road racing and the first few were handed out to racing teams supported by Chevrolet. The aluminum block offered an approximately 100-pound weight savings over the conventional iron big-block casting.

Dealers got wind of the engine, which was said to make more than 500 horsepower when properly tuned, and a few production cars were ordered under Chevy's "COPO" system – a special-order system that was used mostly for fleet vehicles, such as utility trucks or taxi cabs. COPO stood for Central Office Production Order, and the dealers exploited the rules of the system to custom-build the ultimate muscle cars.

In all, 69 1969 Camaros and a pair of 1969 Corvettes were built with the ZL-1 engine as standard equipment. Most of the vehicles were ordered with few options, as they were intended to be sold to drag racers. Nearly 40 years later, they are the most prized and valuable Chevy models of the muscle car heyday.

While production cars with the ZL-1 engine were available for only a year, Chevrolet continued to manufacture and sell ZL-1 engines and parts over the parts counter to racers through the early 1970s. So, while the ZL-1 engine program ended, its legacy lingered for decades.

GM Performance Parts crate engines undergo a 50-hour, full-throttle engine dynamometer validation, requiring the engines perform from peak horsepower to peak torque. GMPP also installs crate engines in its own engineering vehicles for ongoing testing and continuous improvement. This commitment to quality and durability allows General Motors to back GM Performance Parts crate engines with a 24-month / 50,000-mile warranty (whichever occurs first). All GM Performance Parts components carry a 12-month / 12,000-mile warranty.

Enthusiasts who crave the latest technology, maximum horsepower and the expertise and confidence backed by GM can purchase GMPP crate engines, blocks, heads and components from GMPP Authorized Center dealers or any other GM dealership nationwide. For more information or to locate the closest GM dealership.

[AusTx68]

Originally Posted by 69GMC910

"Simply mentioning the term 'ZL-1' stirs the emotions of Chevy performance enthusiasts,"

This says it all. It's all in the marketing. They know there's a market for it but they already have the zz572. So they create a limited number and over inflate the price. Personally, I find this to be a bad buy based on other available options.

[pumpgas]

This is sitting in my garage and is also for sale.......


This is #23 of only 200 made.

[Zoomin]

How many bones for that, pumpgas? I've got a 69 Camaro that would be a good home for it.

[68GMCCustom]

very cool!

[pumpgas]

Originally Posted by Zoomin

How many bones for that, pumpgas? I've got a 69 Camaro that would be a good home for it.

Not to clutter up the mans thread we can talk in PM's if you'd like. Funny cause it came out of a 69 Yenko clone Camaro. FWIW the motor has 50 miles on it and all paper work.

[68C15]

I know a speed shop in Gurnee IL who has an original ZL1 sitting in a corner. when I asked about it 10 years ago he said "that's my retirement".

[1968SWBBigBlock]

The guy with the orginal ZL1 missed his hayday by 2.5 years
Its still worth good $ but was worth a ton more when folks were being nutty over this stuff

[treveiger]

Originally Posted by pumpgas

Not to clutter up the mans thread we can talk in PM's if you'd like. Funny cause it came out of a 69 Yenko clone Camaro. FWIW the motor has 50 miles on it and all paper work.

Aa dont worry i love hearing the prices of motors any knowledge about chevys to me is great.

[treveiger]

Originally Posted by 68C15

I know a speed shop in Gurnee IL who has an original ZL1 sitting in a corner. when I asked about it 10 years ago he said "that's my retirement".

Ya im sure it will be lol those things arent cheap, personaly i would feel bad being hard on these motors.