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XXL · 05-20-2003, 12:37 PM

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Originally posted by fastbagged68
If you only cut the crossmember down it does nothing -because your arms sit lower. If you buy his tubular lower control arms they MOUNT 1- 3/4" higher in the crossmember thus now your control arms no longer hit the ground first. So then you are hanger up on is the crossmeber will be hitting the ground. Now cut your crossmember down and the truck will go lower. Now this will only work if your bag mounts are not limiting you. With these control arms, drop spindles, and bags if set up right will just about put the rocker panel on the ground. I will be doing the same to mine as soon as my parts come in from Bill

So, if I may ask, what does a coomplete setup like this cost? Xmember, upper and lower arms. His website is...uh... lacking, and I'm not yet ready to waste his time on the phone. But it looks interesting.

Kenneth

fastbagged68 · 05-20-2003, 02:38 PM

the arms were 265 and 365 for the pairs, the crossmember you can probalby hack up yourself. But I think he might charge 350 for a crossmember. In his street truck mags ads he sell it for 350 with a 100 core fee, but that not with the mounts for the lower control arms nor the extra the he cuts off.

Alexis · 05-20-2003, 02:48 PM

thats some cool stuff. I like it alot, it make the front suspension look alot cleaner/smooth.

phantom dually · 05-20-2003, 09:12 PM

Anyone that has any questions and that is seriously considering buying his parts give him a call. Bill is a VERY VERY patient man and loves to BS. He would be glad to answer your quetions. I have been on the phone with him on several occasions for 45 minutes or more. On his quarter of course!! Again 909-926-1729

phantom dually · 05-28-2003, 08:55 PM

Anyone have any more pics of Bill Turners work?? I started to install mine tonight and is going to be a pain in the A@@ Lower arms that is.

XXL · 05-28-2003, 09:14 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by phantom dually
Anyone have any more pics of Bill Turners work?? I started to install mine tonight and is going to be a pain in the A@@ Lower arms that is.

Post some pics of what you've got and we might be able to think it through with you.

fastbagged68 · 05-29-2003, 11:02 AM

As soon as I get my plasma cutterI will have pics. It is fairly straight forward the install. But you do need to cut alot for the lower control brackets. Post some pictures of what you are having trouble with.

phantom dually · 05-29-2003, 06:31 PM

It would be straight forward except for the fact that i am starting with a crossmember that has U bolt holes that are farther apart than most trucks. Ill send pics later.

SCOTI · 06-05-2003, 12:58 PM

I've looked @ those pics several times now & the question that keeps coming back in my head is how do the inner tie-rod ends clear the lower control arm mounting location/tabs since they are moved higher?

I called Bill this am but he was busy so for now I'll just wonder until he calls back. Even w/stock arms, it looks like the inner tie-rod will just barely clear the u-bolt when using a modified 1.25" notched crossmember (but they are mounted under the crossmember).

Anybody else notice this?

fastbagged68 · 06-05-2003, 01:20 PM

Scoti I saw that when I went to his place. He sells a kit that changes it. Moves it out or something like that. He is also designs a rack in pinion kit for our trucks. So that could also be a fix. But you arent the only one that saw that problem. Get ready to talk to bill for a while when he calls you back. He like to talk.

Slammed67 · 06-05-2003, 02:17 PM

Is it just me, or does it seem like his "kits" require other "kits" to make them function properly??

XXL · 06-05-2003, 02:18 PM

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Originally posted by Slammed67
Is it just me, or does it seem like his "kits" require other "kits" to make them function properly??

They are "universal" kits, with the definition of universal being that they don't fit anything.

phantom dually · 06-05-2003, 06:59 PM

There is alot involved in the way he does things. I probably would not have went with alot of his products knowing how long it has taken to get things to fit right.

fastbagged68 · 06-06-2003, 12:34 PM

There is alot involved in his parts but every custom car is very involved. Thats why it is called custom. You only really need his parts if you really want to go low. Iplan on laying body. So it does not bother me that I got to make his parts fit.

AccuAir · 06-11-2003, 03:35 AM

Get that thing done and powder coated so that we can put it in our booth at Pleasanton. We are thinking about putting a back yard buddy in our booth too, with a finished car with our system on it. How roudy would that be? But we would love to have that chassis in the middle with our control system installed. Maybe we could hook it up to some air and demo the leveling systems operation for people.

Your project is looking good, keep up the good work!!!!

fastbagged68 · 06-11-2003, 12:06 PM

I should be able to get it done with no problems. I get my plasma this friday. So when I have free time I will be working on it. But the next week or so I will be slammed with work. Bagging a 99 tahoe 2 door- 4link and 4 way 1/2" valves. The works. I plan on having the air system hooked up. Just will need to add air or Co2. The system will be complete. The sterring Imight have to do something about though but it should be done.

cojnit · 06-11-2003, 01:14 PM

AccuAir...If you need a truck to work with, I just picked up a stock 67 Carry-all, and I would be glad to donate it

I would love to get the details of the suspension set-up that you have on the suburban on your website. I would love to get that exact look, and ride heights. Sadly I think it will be some time before I can afford to make it hapen.

AccuAir · 06-11-2003, 04:38 PM

Front:
The front of the suburban has air ride tech bags and brackets. The upper bag plate mounts to the under side of the crossmember. The front also has 3" dropped spindles, which helps keep the geometry somewhat workable.

Rear:
The bags in the rear are mounted directly to the frame and to the track arm. A four inch block spaces the rear end off of the track arm. The fram is C-notched 6 inches and the bed is cut out. We built a panhard bar the goes from the original frame bracket over to the track arm on the opposite side.

It has the HAL adjustable shocks all around, and the thing rides great and handles pretty good for a big old bus. You can see some of the suspension pics on the Classic Trucks website:

http://www.classictrucksweb.com/tech/0305CL_PushButton/

05-20-2003, 09:12 PM	#29
phantom dually Project92 SWB stepside Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Louisville KY Posts: 4,793	Anyone that has any questions and that is seriously considering buying his parts give him a call. Bill is a VERY VERY patient man and loves to BS. He would be glad to answer your quetions. I have been on the phone with him on several occasions for 45 minutes or more. On his quarter of course!! Again 909-926-1729 __________________ 92 C1500 stepside 496 Stroker Competiton Engineering Ladder bars/QA1 coilovers. Dana 60 rear with 4.10 gear and posi. Bonspeed Palisade 20x12 in rear w/335/30/20 and 20x8.5 front w/245/40/20. 5/8 drop with Belltech springs/DJM spindles/drop shocks. WWS Progress thread http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=140448

05-28-2003, 08:55 PM	#30
phantom dually Project92 SWB stepside Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Louisville KY Posts: 4,793	Anyone have any more pics of Bill Turners work?? I started to install mine tonight and is going to be a pain in the A@@ Lower arms that is. __________________ 92 C1500 stepside 496 Stroker Competiton Engineering Ladder bars/QA1 coilovers. Dana 60 rear with 4.10 gear and posi. Bonspeed Palisade 20x12 in rear w/335/30/20 and 20x8.5 front w/245/40/20. 5/8 drop with Belltech springs/DJM spindles/drop shocks. WWS Progress thread http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=140448

05-29-2003, 06:31 PM	#33
phantom dually Project92 SWB stepside Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Louisville KY Posts: 4,793	It would be straight forward except for the fact that i am starting with a crossmember that has U bolt holes that are farther apart than most trucks. Ill send pics later. __________________ 92 C1500 stepside 496 Stroker Competiton Engineering Ladder bars/QA1 coilovers. Dana 60 rear with 4.10 gear and posi. Bonspeed Palisade 20x12 in rear w/335/30/20 and 20x8.5 front w/245/40/20. 5/8 drop with Belltech springs/DJM spindles/drop shocks. WWS Progress thread http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=140448

06-05-2003, 12:58 PM	#34
SCOTI Registered User Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: DALLAS,TX Posts: 21,938	I've looked @ those pics several times now & the question that keeps coming back in my head is how do the inner tie-rod ends clear the lower control arm mounting location/tabs since they are moved higher? I called Bill this am but he was busy so for now I'll just wonder until he calls back. Even w/stock arms, it looks like the inner tie-rod will just barely clear the u-bolt when using a modified 1.25" notched crossmember (but they are mounted under the crossmember). Anybody else notice this? __________________ 67SWB-B.B.RetroRod 64SWB-Recycle 89CCDually-Driver/Tow Truck 99CCSWB Driver All Fleetsides @rattlecankustoms in IG Building a small, high rpm engine with the perfect bore, stroke and rod ratio is very impressive. It's like a highly skilled Morrocan sword fighter with a Damascus Steel Scimitar..... *Cubic inches is like Indiana Jones with a cheap pistol.*

06-05-2003, 02:17 PM	#36
Slammed67 Progress = 0% Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Kansas City, MO Posts: 2,108	Is it just me, or does it seem like his "kits" require other "kits" to make them function properly?? __________________ Jason - '67 GMC swb \| '57 Bel-Air 4dr hardtop \| '56 210 4dr Wagon \| 2000 GMC Sierra

05-20-2003, 02:38 PM	#27
fastbagged68 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Tri Valley California Posts: 792	the arms were 265 and 365 for the pairs, the crossmember you can probalby hack up yourself. But I think he might charge 350 for a crossmember. In his street truck mags ads he sell it for 350 with a 100 core fee, but that not with the mounts for the lower control arms nor the extra the he cuts off.

05-20-2003, 02:48 PM	#28
Alexis Member since 2000 Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Mountain View Ca / Mexico Posts: 7,879	thats some cool stuff. I like it alot, it make the front suspension look alot cleaner/smooth.

05-29-2003, 11:02 AM	#32
fastbagged68 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Tri Valley California Posts: 792	As soon as I get my plasma cutterI will have pics. It is fairly straight forward the install. But you do need to cut alot for the lower control brackets. Post some pictures of what you are having trouble with.

06-05-2003, 01:20 PM	#35
fastbagged68 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Tri Valley California Posts: 792	Scoti I saw that when I went to his place. He sells a kit that changes it. Moves it out or something like that. He is also designs a rack in pinion kit for our trucks. So that could also be a fix. But you arent the only one that saw that problem. Get ready to talk to bill for a while when he calls you back. He like to talk.

06-05-2003, 06:59 PM	#38
phantom dually Project92 SWB stepside Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Louisville KY Posts: 4,793	There is alot involved in the way he does things. I probably would not have went with alot of his products knowing how long it has taken to get things to fit right. __________________ 92 C1500 stepside 496 Stroker Competiton Engineering Ladder bars/QA1 coilovers. Dana 60 rear with 4.10 gear and posi. Bonspeed Palisade 20x12 in rear w/335/30/20 and 20x8.5 front w/245/40/20. 5/8 drop with Belltech springs/DJM spindles/drop shocks. WWS Progress thread http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=140448

06-06-2003, 12:34 PM	#39
fastbagged68 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Tri Valley California Posts: 792	There is alot involved in his parts but every custom car is very involved. Thats why it is called custom. You only really need his parts if you really want to go low. Iplan on laying body. So it does not bother me that I got to make his parts fit.

06-11-2003, 03:35 AM	#40
AccuAir Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: California Posts: 17	Your a pimp!!! Get that thing done and powder coated so that we can put it in our booth at Pleasanton. We are thinking about putting a back yard buddy in our booth too, with a finished car with our system on it. How roudy would that be? But we would love to have that chassis in the middle with our control system installed. Maybe we could hook it up to some air and demo the leveling systems operation for people. Your project is looking good, keep up the good work!!!!

06-11-2003, 12:06 PM	#41
fastbagged68 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Tri Valley California Posts: 792	I should be able to get it done with no problems. I get my plasma this friday. So when I have free time I will be working on it. But the next week or so I will be slammed with work. Bagging a 99 tahoe 2 door- 4link and 4 way 1/2" valves. The works. I plan on having the air system hooked up. Just will need to add air or Co2. The system will be complete. The sterring Imight have to do something about though but it should be done.

06-11-2003, 01:14 PM	#42
cojnit Nothing clever Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Kailua HI Posts: 828	Accuair AccuAir...If you need a truck to work with, I just picked up a stock 67 Carry-all, and I would be glad to donate it I would love to get the details of the suspension set-up that you have on the suburban on your website. I would love to get that exact look, and ride heights. Sadly I think it will be some time before I can afford to make it hapen. Last edited by cojnit; 06-11-2003 at 01:17 PM.

06-11-2003, 04:38 PM	#43
AccuAir Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: California Posts: 17	About the suburban Front: The front of the suburban has air ride tech bags and brackets. The upper bag plate mounts to the under side of the crossmember. The front also has 3" dropped spindles, which helps keep the geometry somewhat workable. Rear: The bags in the rear are mounted directly to the frame and to the track arm. A four inch block spaces the rear end off of the track arm. The fram is C-notched 6 inches and the bed is cut out. We built a panhard bar the goes from the original frame bracket over to the track arm on the opposite side. It has the HAL adjustable shocks all around, and the thing rides great and handles pretty good for a big old bus. You can see some of the suspension pics on the Classic Trucks website: http://www.classictrucksweb.com/tech/0305CL_PushButton/



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