lincoln arc welder

[old_1966_GMC]

i was wodering if the lincoln arc welder are any good for welding patch panels on my 65 gmc

[Hottrucks]

Let me help

NO

turnit in for the copper and buy a small mig welder like the miller or lincoln

[old_1966_GMC]

why not whats the diffrence

[lofly'a]

that NO advice is very sound, take it. the heat range of arc/stick welding is too high for welding sheetmetal. you'll only burn big holes in the metal and cause more harm than good. you'd be better off using a panel adhesive than a arc welder

[faribran]

No....

[cdowns]

like everbody says NO

stick welder good for heavier stuff like chassis and fence posts if it works good and is paid for i'd keep for the odd heavyduty jobs

[old_1966_GMC]

what about the lincoln gasless welder that they have

[lofly'a]

if you are referring to flux core wire welding, it will weld sheetmetal but is'nt nearly as neat and pretty as gas shielded wire welding. take some good advice (hope others will back me up) if you decide to buy a wirefeed that uses fluxcore (gasless), buy one that can be converted to gas shielding later. fluxcore weld quality is just as good (so i'm told) but the weld is ugly and very hard to clean up. the first wirefeed i had was flux-core (gasless), and i hated it til i sold it and bought a gas shielded machine. i have a lincoln 135plus (120V and you can take it anywhere) and love it for thin metals. i also have the big daddy miller 350p wirefeed which makes my old stick arc machine collect dust and spiderwebs now.

[old_1966_GMC]

so can i get this gas for a mig welders then

[lofly'a]

yes you can get this argon/c02 80-20% mix at local welding supply store in many different sizes to suit your needs.

[72lb4x4]

All electric welding including stick, MIG, and TIG are arc welding because they involve an electric arc so the OP's question isn't specific enough to answer.

For the folks who'll say I'm full of crap: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arc_welding

[lofly'a]

for the sake of argument you are correct 72lb4x4, i was trying to clarify the difference between the different types of ELECTRIC welders. there are many, many different types of welding that fall under this title.

[old_1966_GMC]

so how much could it cost out here to fill a tank up in the east bay area in calfonia

[Gobbles]

Depends on the size of tank, I have 110 Cubic Ft and it is $50 CAD to fill.

[RichardJ]

For the questions you are asking, you would do yourself a big favor to take a class on MIG (GMAW) welding. See if the local Jr. College or Adult Ed doesn't have evening or weekend classes. You will enjoy it and learn a lot.
Everyone in the class will have the same questions about equipement, even the guys that have already bought junk.
You might have a chance to learn on one or more different welders.

[laid_out_70]

this website would answer just about any question you may have

http://www.weldingtipsandtricks.com/index.html

[stich626]

as far as the arc .. save it for bigger jobs
for automotive sheet metal
you want gas shielded mig..
the gas will make the weld pretty, (once you get a hang of it)
and the pretty weld is easier to grind down later.. less to grind,the less heat you put into the panel and less chance of warping it..
can u do it with out the gas,, yup..
the less time grinding the welds will more than pay for the dirrence in cost to have the gas
good luck
I have a lincoln 220volt
the 110v is handy as you can take it to your buddies house.. the 220v will use less electric power.. but requires a 220v outlet..

[old_1966_GMC]

For the questions you are asking, you would do yourself a big favor to take a class on MIG (GMAW) welding. See if the local Jr. College or Adult Ed doesn't have evening or weekend classes. You will enjoy it and learn a lot.
Everyone in the class will have the same questions about equipement, even the guys that have already bought junk.
You might have a chance to learn on one or more different welders.
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im not worry about the welding skills or how to weld i just got done going school to take collision repair classes for the last 2 years so me learning how to weld isnt the proplem i wanted to find out what was a good welder to weld patch panel

[C10longwb]

Your best bet if your going to do sheet metal is to
get a 140 110v mig welder it will give you beter peniteation and less prosity inthe weld witch= less prep time If you sit there and try to
fix all the bubbles from the flux welders you'll get pissed off and say this is a waste of time. If your looking for good quality at cheep get a Hobart 140 I have the step up the 187 but I like to play around with thicker stuff like 1/4 and 3/8 you should have a fairly close local welding shop get your tank filled and supplies there get a bottle off someone local because the weld shops are expensive.. My 150 bottle was 200 and they wanted 175 for a 75... But for wire and tips and the gas it'such cheeper to go
though a weld shop good luck
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