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Old 03-26-2011, 05:00 PM   #1
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Crossmember section questions.

Hi All.

I have a 63 long fleet with power steering,

I want to section my front crossmember 1.5", but i have had a look at my steering setup and the middle linkage is only three quater inches from the lower point of the chassis,

I am trying to gain an inch ore two with out spending mega bucks,

Any help would be much appreciated,
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Old 03-26-2011, 06:09 PM   #2
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Re: Crossmember section questions.

You'll have to notch the frame to let the linkage move up the required 1.5" to keep your steering geometry happy.

IMHO, you want an inch or two - order a set of drop spindles. I sectioned my crossmember 2", notched my frame and added a steering rack. I want a 5" drop w/o losing suspension travel, but for the work involved sectioning the crossmember, the spindles are well worth the price.
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Old 03-27-2011, 01:54 AM   #3
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Re: Crossmember section questions.

I allready have 2" drop spindels,

Do you have any pictures,

Thanks.
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Old 03-27-2011, 02:00 AM   #4
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Re: Crossmember section questions.

you dont need to cut the frame, you can notch the crossmember up 1.5 inches without disrupting the steering, if you go 2 inches you will have to raise the steering box.





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Old 03-27-2011, 03:31 PM   #5
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I allready have 2" drop spindels,

Do you have any pictures,

Thanks.









You can see my inexperience and newbie mistake here: I cut my notches based on where the rack wanted to sit WITHOUT having the engine set in place. Once I put the engine in for mock-up, I found I couldn't go as high with the rack as I wanted, so I drilled and reamed the steering arms from the bottom. This allows much better geometry and way less toe change with suspension movement.
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Old 03-29-2011, 01:57 AM   #6
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Re: Crossmember section questions.

Thanks for the pics, Scot douglas,

How much did you cut out of the crosmember ?
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Old 03-29-2011, 08:28 AM   #7
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Thanks for the pics, Scot douglas,

How much did you cut out of the crosmember ?
You're very welcome.

2" total - lots of welding and grinding!
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Old 03-29-2011, 05:18 PM   #8
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Re: Crossmember section questions.

I have been looking at every object when carrying out this crossmember section,

Looking at the middle steering link that runs in front of the crossmember, mine is almost touching & as the front of the crossmember gets wider towards the lower half, so if i am about to take 1.5" out, will the steering arm touch,

Anyone got any pics of this with suspension & steering & engine in place,
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I have been looking at every object when carrying out this crossmember section,

Looking at the middle steering link that runs in front of the crossmember, mine is almost touching & as the front of the crossmember gets wider towards the lower half, so if i am about to take 1.5" out, will the steering arm touch,

Anyone got any pics of this with suspension & steering & engine in place,

it shouldn't touch if you go 1.5.
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Old 03-29-2011, 09:18 PM   #10
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Re: Crossmember section questions.

I sectioned my crossmember 1.5", started to bolt it up....then got a new one, and "z'ed" my frame 3" and sold my sectioned crossmember, too much steering issues for me!!
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awesome, I almost went the z route. your motor gonna fit under the hood still?
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yup, but i have been debating on running a tunnel ram and cutting a hole in the hood!
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Old 03-31-2011, 10:24 AM   #13
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I sectioned my crossmember 1.5", started to bolt it up....then got a new one, and "z'ed" my frame 3" and sold my sectioned crossmember, too much steering issues for me!!
I thought the whole idea of liniting the section to 1.5" was so no steering issues were present,

What issues did you come across, the z frame drop looks like more work to me,
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I thought the whole idea of liniting the section to 1.5" was so no steering issues were present,

What issues did you come across, the z frame drop looks like more work to me,
I read it was 1.5" where interference became an issue so I cut less to avoid possible problems.

I allowed myself an extra .125" clearance so mine was a total of 1 3/8" notch. I still had clearance issues when the steering swung through its arc of travel. I ended up having to shim the x-member back up .250" to allow almost .125" clearance from stop to stop (or 1 1/8" total x-member notch).
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I thought the whole idea of liniting the section to 1.5" was so no steering issues were present,

What issues did you come across, the z frame drop looks like more work to me,
yea, it was almost 6 years ago when I sectioned the xmember, but i believe i had issues with the travel of the bars throughout the turn.
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