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Old 06-13-2011, 04:18 PM   #1
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GMC C25 Crew Cab Converting to 4WD

Hey Everyone,

I know that the easiest way to convert to 4WD to a Body swap to a 4WD frame, BUT has anyone successfully converted a 3/4 ton 2WD Crew Cab (or Reg. Cab) to a 4WD using the 2WD Frame?

I have a complete 1980 3/4 ton 4wd donnor truck (Reg. Cab) I'm using.
And the Truck that I'm converting is a 1980 GMC 3/4 Ton Crew Cab.


All the info I can get will be great!!!

Thanks-a-million in advance....


David
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Old 06-13-2011, 05:46 PM   #2
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Re: GMC C25 Crew Cab Converting to 4WD

Check my crew cab build thread in my sig. I took a 85 C30 and am converting it to a k30. Basically the same thing just k30 parts vs what you would use to do a swap with k10/k20 parts. Read my thread and if you have any questions send me a PM Ill be happy to help or take some close up shots for you!


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I just noticed that your k20 is a 1980 & your crew cab is a 1980, basically just cut the rivets off for the front body mounts/front spring mounts, mount them to the crew cab frame, will have to drill some more holes, but that is easy. You will need a 2" hole saw to cut for the spring hanger on the front end. As for the rear end, there is a difference between 4x and 2x spring hangers, so just cut the 2x spring hangers off and put the 4x spring hangers on. I did my swap with pre 81 parts but I found the correct parts now so that is why I was having trouble with my swap.
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Old 06-13-2011, 08:39 PM   #3
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Re: GMC C25 Crew Cab Converting to 4WD

I did this to my 89 crew. I used DIY4X B-52 kit for the front. It locates the front spring as well as the core support. Need to drill the 2' hole like Mattman said, also the 4 3/8" or whatever they are to bolt the swing shackle to the frame.

I did a poor man's shackle flip on the rear. I used 1/2-3/4 4wd rear spring front hangers, then 2wd hangers for the rear, used the stock springs on the back, for now.

The engine crossmember can be a pain. A stock one won't fit in the frame of the 2wd. I ended up using part of the 4wd mount. Not sure what it's called, but where the rubber mount bolts to. I trimmed it down then boxed it in. I plan on putting a Cummins in it, so did some horse trading on motor mounts and crossmember from Tennessee Diesel Conversions.

There is a lot of small stuff that needs to be addressed, any questions feel free to ask!!!!!
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Old 06-13-2011, 09:31 PM   #4
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Re: GMC C25 Crew Cab Converting to 4WD

Did it to a C30 had to cut down motor mount hangers 5/8" as my 1 ton frame section in the front was 5/8" smaller ( not as high) as 4x4 motor mount hangers. Drill lots of holes and lots of nuts and bolts. Have fun
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Old 06-15-2011, 10:32 AM   #5
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Re: GMC C25 Crew Cab Converting to 4WD

b454rat

I would GREATLY appreciate your help!

By the way,

IF I could by fluke chance find a Crew Cab 4X4 frame, would it have to be a 73'-80' 3/4 ton frame? or which years work?

Thanks!

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Old 06-15-2011, 10:34 AM   #6
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Re: GMC C25 Crew Cab Converting to 4WD

Mattman2010

I'd be very happy to get your help too on this....

The more help from members that HAVE did this conversion the better.
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Re: GMC C25 Crew Cab Converting to 4WD

Only diff in the frames over the years is I think the very front where the bumper goes on. I pretty sure that was it. But doesn't really matter what year, will have to be a 1 ton, tho supposedly GM did make a 3/4 ton 4wd crew cab.
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Old 06-16-2011, 10:59 AM   #8
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Re: GMC C25 Crew Cab Converting to 4WD

Can the 73-80 bumper mount to the 81 and up front frame?
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Re: GMC C25 Crew Cab Converting to 4WD

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Only diff in the frames over the years is I think the very front where the bumper goes on. I pretty sure that was it. But doesn't really matter what year, will have to be a 1 ton, tho supposedly GM did make a 3/4 ton 4wd crew cab.
Im pretty sure the only difference between a 1 ton and 3/4 ton 4x4 crew is the front axle. Either a D60, or D44.

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Can the 73-80 bumper mount to the 81 and up front frame?
Ive seen some people cut the front section off of a 73-80 frame and weld them to 81 up frames to get it to work. Not sure if they work any other way.
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