cab & chassis ?s

[DetroitDan]

I just went back 18 pages and cant find the thread. While discussing why someones 8' bed was too short for their reg cab pickup, someone stated that reg cab C&Cs are several inches longer than a reg cab pickup, while crewcab C&Cs share the same length as a crewcab pickup. My local GM guru yesterday told me this is not correct, he said there is a 2 inch difference, (on the crewcabs) not sure if he meant longer or shorter, but he said you can get away with it, but the wheels wont be centered in the wheelwell and/or the bed to cab gap wont be perfect. He also said the frames are noticeably thicker.

Well, my wheels appear to be perfectly centered with a good bed gap. And the frame doesn't feel particularly thick. So if he what he says is true, then my truck is a pickup and not a cab & chassis. Which just seems wierd because from what I know of the history was that the truck spent the first ten years of it's life as a wrecker belonging to a dealership (I remember when dealers and garages did their own towing). So it seems odd that they would have taken a new pickup and installed a wrecker body on it, then swapped in a narrow rear axle, rather than just getting a new C&C. So, when new my truck was probably a dually pickup, unless it was an SRW and they changed the front to use the same wheels.

I guess it doesn't make any difference, except I'll have to change my sig.

[GM72K10]

Rule one, don't believe everything everyone says lol. You should be able to tell from your vin if it was a cab and chassis. The 3rd digit should be a "B", however you could have had a cab and chassis WITHOUT a pickup box; the only way a C&C crewcab would have come.

[DetroitDan]

It is a crewcab, and like I said someone here said they have the same wheelbase, whereas reg cabs do not. But my GM go-to guy, who has built, assembled, disassembled etc hundreds of GM trucks says there is a 2 inch difference. So, I tend to believe him, he knows everything about 73-87 GM 1 tons.
What I thought I had was a factory C&C that the dealer had put a fleetside bed on, they even tubbed the wheelwells to clear the inner tires.

Thanks for the VIN tip, I'll go check it right now!

[DetroitDan]

well, it's a B, so I guess I don't need to change my sig after all. Does that mean I've got an 11,000 gvwr? Wonder what my GTWR is.

[GM72K10]

There is NO difference in wheelbase for C&C crew cab versus pickup crewcab. Do you have the options sheet? You should have a 14FF rear, if you have option C7E you have a 11,000 gvw truck (my dump chassis has that option)

[1tonchevy]

Dan my truck like your shared most its life as a Tow truck but when i got mine it had a dually flaired box and wide rear end.

[DetroitDan]

thank goodness mines got all new rear springs, I'd hate to see what they looked like after ten years of towing cars.

I dont think I've got a build sheet, I'll have to check the glovebox, cant remember when I was in there last. It is definitely a full floater, 4.10 open narrow Corporate 14 bolt. Wow do I miss the detroit locker my other dually had. This truck isn't worth a damn in the snow compared to that truck, neither is my 4wd Suburban.

Actually, iirc the p.o told me he bought it in 88 and it had the tubbed pickup bed on it. So it was only a wrecker for 6 years or maybe less. You can tell by the picture the bed doesnt match. It rotted right off the truck, too, while the 82 cab is very solid, as is the frame. I guess whatever bed they had access to in 88 was crappy metal. Only thing left any good was the galvy bed floor.
Second owner used it around the farm, and in the fall would tow a huge trailer full of Christmas trees down south to retail them, and the truck spent it's winters indoors. In 98 the motor popped and he had a dealer install a new one, ran it another few years (28k miles) then retired it and bought a newer one for the trips. Just used it around the farm until the flexplate went and he gave up on it. So it never really saw much winter use, not up here anyways.

[1tonchevy]

i removed 20 leafs aside fro ine when i got it. sofened it up a "lil" lol