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chevymadness · 07-19-2011, 02:35 AM

Alright guys i have a 82 half ton and im been having a hard time of what lift to do i was going to do a 7 inch lift but since i dont have the money i just want enough for what im paying.Im choosing to do a 4 inch lift as its mostly cheap due to spring work mostly and i dont have to deal with extensions of shafts joints etc etc bull.I would like to do atleast a 6 inch but i would imagine it would be way more work then i need right now.Im new to this and this is my first truck and i dont have much money like 200 tops.I would like to build this my self i have plenty of freinds with rigs around here.I just want to buy the springs and be done with it.

Since im probably going with a 4 inch i dont know what coil springs to use the ones already on are sagging and are stock my 31 inch tires supprisingly clear preety good tho.People are telling me to put spacers in the springs to lift it heigher and its cheaper that way but im not a fan of those.I would just like to get new.I also dont know what kind of leaf springs to get or what vehicles to pull them off.I already have shocks.When this is done im going to sell my 31 inch tires and get some 35s toyos and wrap them around some 15 inch rims. HELP ME OUT GUYS!

VegasBruce · 07-19-2011, 02:47 AM

Presuming your still talking 2wd, 56" Suburban springs in the rear and Crewcab front spring will get you high enough for 33"s without cutting the fenders. Your not going to get much higher than that in your price range. To get the 4" of lift in the front look here http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=447061

Here is 33"s on a 2wd.

67_SS396 · 07-19-2011, 11:58 PM

Do a rear shackle flip to get close to four inches.
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chevymadness · 07-20-2011, 12:37 AM

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Originally Posted by 67_SS396

Do a rear shackle flip to get close to four inches.
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guys why is it so hard to not get a lift on a ****ty 4x2 i mean all it takes for a 4 inch lift is some spring work how come i cant get some coil springs and leaf springs good enough to get the job done.Or what do i have to do????

67_SS396 · 07-20-2011, 12:42 AM

You can get rear four inch leaf springs if you want it to ride like a tank and have no flex. Or go with blocks and get stupid axle wrap. Or go with a simple shackle flip, have a decent ride and better flex than lift springs. No clue on front coils.
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VegasBruce · 07-20-2011, 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by chevymadness

guys why is it so hard to not get a lift on a ****ty 4x2 i mean all it takes for a 4 inch lift is some spring work how come i cant get some coil springs and leaf springs good enough to get the job done.Or what do i have to do????

If it is as easy as you say it is, how come your not done yet?

Prerunner1982 · 07-20-2011, 05:27 PM

You can only go so high on the front with coils.. your upper control arms will bottom out on the upper coil spring bucket. The best front set up is to adapt 88-98 lift spindles to your truck. Not all that hard and was done fairly recently by a member if I remember correctly.
As mentioned a 4" rear shackle flip will be your best bet.

7" of lift can be done like this...

Front: 3" lift coils & 4" lift spindles
Rear: 4" shackle flip and 3-4" lift leaf springs.

Any coil lift in the front will decrease the down travel of the suspension, though you will get lift you will not gain any suspension performance. To actually gain travel the front suspension would have to be custom, with longer control arms and coil-overs..at least.

kris's66lwb · 07-20-2011, 07:11 PM

How much work is it to adapt and intire suspention lift from the next body style trucks ?

Prerunner1982 · 07-20-2011, 07:47 PM

Here is a write up where a member installed the 88-98 lift spindles.

http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=447061

VegasBruce · 07-20-2011, 08:08 PM

Prerunner, I give up on him, he just keeps asking hoping we'll come up with a different answer.

http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=463855

http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=463853

http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=460398

http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=465065

Prerunner1982 · 07-20-2011, 08:12 PM

LOL... I didn't put two and two together.....

Hopefully that is the answer kris's66 was looking for though...

chevymadness · 07-21-2011, 02:39 AM

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Originally Posted by VegasBruce

If it is as easy as you say it is, how come your not done yet?

Its all about budget i dont have the budget to do what i want right now or it would be done and it will stay tuned.

flamingbig10 · 07-21-2011, 02:47 AM

3" body lift and hd coils

chevymadness · 07-21-2011, 02:48 AM

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Originally Posted by VegasBruce

Prerunner, I give up on him, he just keeps asking hoping we'll come up with a different answer.

http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=463855

http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=463853

http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=460398

http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=465065

Thats very nice vegas but i keep asking for the reason of learning how to do this since theres so many haters out there.If anything thats why im determined to lift a 4x2 just to piss people like you off.And i can post a 4x2 lifted and see what people have to say about it then.Ill be posting pics in the comming weeks of what i have done.

Prerunner1982 · 07-21-2011, 09:55 AM

I wouldn't call VegasBruce a hater.... I am gonna go on a limb here and say the picture of the 2wd stepside on 33"s...is his.

You say there are so many haters, yet you even said a lifted 2wd is stupid. (http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=463855 post #9)

You are going to have people that don't agree with what you are wanting to do. That's life. There are people that think bagging a truck is lame, or putting 44"+ boggers on a truck is stupid... or.... whatever, there are going to be people that give you crap about it.

You say you are trying to learn things... if you are wanting to lift your 2wd all the information you need has already been put out there, you just have to weed through a bit of BS. You aren't going to get anything different by re-posting the same question over and over, except that you may not get any responses in the future.

To answer your question with only the $200 budget you mentioned you are looking at coil spacers and a rear add-a-leaf and running 32-33" tires. That is of course if you already have the tires or can get them for free, otherwise your $200 budget is only going to get you 2 tires.... and no lift.

VegasBruce · 07-21-2011, 10:09 AM

Thanks Prerunner.

I'm going to stay out of these threads. I'm not going to rise to the bait. As you say I already have my truck set up how I want, and its been that way since '84. I don't care how he builds his truck.

kris's66lwb · 07-21-2011, 10:40 AM

Thanks guys i followed that thread once but nothing new came of it and i forgot about it

67_SS396 · 07-22-2011, 12:10 AM

The definition of insanity is repeating the same actions over and over (in this case asking the same question) and expecting a different outcome (answer). Haha. Good luck with whatever direction you choose. A shackle flip is free if you have a cutting torch or plasma and some scrap steel and a welder to brace the hanger.

If you truly are going to convert to 4wd in the very near future, save the effort and money and put it toward the axle, springs, steering components, etc... The real simple way would be to one link it front/rear then go with coils, coilovers or air shocks.
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Prerunner1982 · 07-22-2011, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by 67_SS396

The definition of insanity is repeating the same actions over and over (in this case asking the same question)

Isn't this also the definition of trolling?

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Originally Posted by 67_SS396

If you truly are going to convert to 4wd in the very near future..

Depending on what thread you look at his also claims the truck is a 4wd with a 10bolt front and 12 bolt rear.

http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=465065
http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=464912

07-19-2011, 02:35 AM	#1
chevymadness Registered User Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: el paso texas Posts: 273	Need help with lifting truck Alright guys i have a 82 half ton and im been having a hard time of what lift to do i was going to do a 7 inch lift but since i dont have the money i just want enough for what im paying.Im choosing to do a 4 inch lift as its mostly cheap due to spring work mostly and i dont have to deal with extensions of shafts joints etc etc bull.I would like to do atleast a 6 inch but i would imagine it would be way more work then i need right now.Im new to this and this is my first truck and i dont have much money like 200 tops.I would like to build this my self i have plenty of freinds with rigs around here.I just want to buy the springs and be done with it. Since im probably going with a 4 inch i dont know what coil springs to use the ones already on are sagging and are stock my 31 inch tires supprisingly clear preety good tho.People are telling me to put spacers in the springs to lift it heigher and its cheaper that way but im not a fan of those.I would just like to get new.I also dont know what kind of leaf springs to get or what vehicles to pull them off.I already have shocks.When this is done im going to sell my 31 inch tires and get some 35s toyos and wrap them around some 15 inch rims. HELP ME OUT GUYS! __________________ 1982 chevy silverado It's all about original guys original let me say again original.

07-19-2011, 02:47 AM	#2
VegasBruce Registered User Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Just outside Sin City Posts: 239	Re: Need help with lifting truck Presuming your still talking 2wd, 56" Suburban springs in the rear and Crewcab front spring will get you high enough for 33"s without cutting the fenders. Your not going to get much higher than that in your price range. To get the 4" of lift in the front look here http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=447061 Here is 33"s on a 2wd. __________________ Bruce 73 Stepside, 74 Blazer, 75 1 Ton, 66 Barracuda and a 05 Electraglide DD http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g1...Rusti192-1.jpg

07-19-2011, 11:58 PM	#3
67_SS396 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: Blue Ridge, Tx Posts: 1,172	Re: Need help with lifting truck Do a rear shackle flip to get close to four inches. Posted via Mobile Device __________________ Fawker Fab three seater rock crawler buggy 498 BBC/SM465/203/205 doubler, propane, 5.13's, 42" PB Rockers '66 C10 - The new hot rod '77 3+3 Dually - 12 valve 4wd conversion tow rig project '28 Ford 2 door sedan street rod RevLimit Offroad "Hang on beer, we can do this."

07-20-2011, 12:42 AM	#5
67_SS396 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: Blue Ridge, Tx Posts: 1,172	Re: Need help with lifting truck You can get rear four inch leaf springs if you want it to ride like a tank and have no flex. Or go with blocks and get stupid axle wrap. Or go with a simple shackle flip, have a decent ride and better flex than lift springs. No clue on front coils. Posted via Mobile Device __________________ Fawker Fab three seater rock crawler buggy 498 BBC/SM465/203/205 doubler, propane, 5.13's, 42" PB Rockers '66 C10 - The new hot rod '77 3+3 Dually - 12 valve 4wd conversion tow rig project '28 Ford 2 door sedan street rod RevLimit Offroad "Hang on beer, we can do this."

07-20-2011, 05:27 PM	#7
Prerunner1982 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Edmond, OK Posts: 5,904	Re: Need help with lifting truck You can only go so high on the front with coils.. your upper control arms will bottom out on the upper coil spring bucket. The best front set up is to adapt 88-98 lift spindles to your truck. Not all that hard and was done fairly recently by a member if I remember correctly. As mentioned a 4" rear shackle flip will be your best bet. 7" of lift can be done like this... Front: 3" lift coils & 4" lift spindles Rear: 4" shackle flip and 3-4" lift leaf springs. Any coil lift in the front will decrease the down travel of the suspension, though you will get lift you will not gain any suspension performance. To actually gain travel the front suspension would have to be custom, with longer control arms and coil-overs..at least. __________________ Jon 1982 Chevy Silverado 350/th350.... RETIRED 1993 Jeep XJ 2 door(Cherokee) 4wd 4.0ltr/AX-15 (5spd)/NP231 .... Oklahoma Roll Call Last edited by Prerunner1982; 07-20-2011 at 05:41 PM.

07-20-2011, 07:11 PM	#8
kris's66lwb resident wrencher Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: ramona california Posts: 720	Re: Need help with lifting truck How much work is it to adapt and intire suspention lift from the next body style trucks ?

07-20-2011, 07:47 PM	#9
Prerunner1982 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Edmond, OK Posts: 5,904	Re: Need help with lifting truck Here is a write up where a member installed the 88-98 lift spindles. http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=447061 __________________ Jon 1982 Chevy Silverado 350/th350.... RETIRED 1993 Jeep XJ 2 door(Cherokee) 4wd 4.0ltr/AX-15 (5spd)/NP231 .... Oklahoma Roll Call

07-20-2011, 08:08 PM	#10
VegasBruce Registered User Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Just outside Sin City Posts: 239	Re: Need help with lifting truck Prerunner, I give up on him, he just keeps asking hoping we'll come up with a different answer. http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=463855 http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=463853 http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=460398 http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=465065 __________________ Bruce 73 Stepside, 74 Blazer, 75 1 Ton, 66 Barracuda and a 05 Electraglide DD http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g1...Rusti192-1.jpg

07-20-2011, 08:12 PM	#11
Prerunner1982 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Edmond, OK Posts: 5,904	Re: Need help with lifting truck LOL... I didn't put two and two together..... Hopefully that is the answer kris's66 was looking for though... __________________ Jon 1982 Chevy Silverado 350/th350.... RETIRED 1993 Jeep XJ 2 door(Cherokee) 4wd 4.0ltr/AX-15 (5spd)/NP231 .... Oklahoma Roll Call

07-21-2011, 02:47 AM	#13
flamingbig10 6.0 powered square Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Mesquite texas Posts: 3,459	Re: Need help with lifting truck 3" body lift and hd coils __________________ Aaron 1980 c-10 short bed lowered, cammed 6.0, 4l80e 3600 stall, smp tune, wilwoods, and flames best time so far best et 7.86 @87 on motor 7.57 90 on a 75 shot Build http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=283326

07-21-2011, 09:55 AM	#15
Prerunner1982 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Edmond, OK Posts: 5,904	Re: Need help with lifting truck I wouldn't call VegasBruce a hater.... I am gonna go on a limb here and say the picture of the 2wd stepside on 33"s...is his. You say there are so many haters, yet you even said a lifted 2wd is stupid. (http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=463855 post #9) You are going to have people that don't agree with what you are wanting to do. That's life. There are people that think bagging a truck is lame, or putting 44"+ boggers on a truck is stupid... or.... whatever, there are going to be people that give you crap about it. You say you are trying to learn things... if you are wanting to lift your 2wd all the information you need has already been put out there, you just have to weed through a bit of BS. You aren't going to get anything different by re-posting the same question over and over, except that you may not get any responses in the future. To answer your question with only the $200 budget you mentioned you are looking at coil spacers and a rear add-a-leaf and running 32-33" tires. That is of course if you already have the tires or can get them for free, otherwise your $200 budget is only going to get you 2 tires.... and no lift. __________________ Jon 1982 Chevy Silverado 350/th350.... RETIRED 1993 Jeep XJ 2 door(Cherokee) 4wd 4.0ltr/AX-15 (5spd)/NP231 .... Oklahoma Roll Call

07-21-2011, 10:09 AM	#16
VegasBruce Registered User Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Just outside Sin City Posts: 239	Re: Need help with lifting truck Thanks Prerunner. I'm going to stay out of these threads. I'm not going to rise to the bait. As you say I already have my truck set up how I want, and its been that way since '84. I don't care how he builds his truck. __________________ Bruce 73 Stepside, 74 Blazer, 75 1 Ton, 66 Barracuda and a 05 Electraglide DD http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g1...Rusti192-1.jpg

07-21-2011, 10:40 AM	#17
kris's66lwb resident wrencher Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: ramona california Posts: 720	Re: Need help with lifting truck Thanks guys i followed that thread once but nothing new came of it and i forgot about it

07-22-2011, 12:10 AM	#18
67_SS396 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: Blue Ridge, Tx Posts: 1,172	Re: Need help with lifting truck The definition of insanity is repeating the same actions over and over (in this case asking the same question) and expecting a different outcome (answer). Haha. Good luck with whatever direction you choose. A shackle flip is free if you have a cutting torch or plasma and some scrap steel and a welder to brace the hanger. If you truly are going to convert to 4wd in the very near future, save the effort and money and put it toward the axle, springs, steering components, etc... The real simple way would be to one link it front/rear then go with coils, coilovers or air shocks. Posted via Mobile Device __________________ Fawker Fab three seater rock crawler buggy 498 BBC/SM465/203/205 doubler, propane, 5.13's, 42" PB Rockers '66 C10 - The new hot rod '77 3+3 Dually - 12 valve 4wd conversion tow rig project '28 Ford 2 door sedan street rod RevLimit Offroad "Hang on beer, we can do this."



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