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crackajacka · 07-31-2003, 11:21 PM

anyone buy a set of white gauge face overlays from durangeddesign? they suck, nothing fits right nor is anything printed correctly, everything is printed 2 wide by about 1/4-1/2 inch it looks terrible

bigblock73 · 07-31-2003, 11:24 PM

Don't get us all started on them again..it might be a long thread!

They are dishonest people, they spammed here already and got booted.

...Jeff

Slonaker · 07-31-2003, 11:26 PM

I'm not surprised. He has spammed repeatedly at both Chevy truck sites I frequent. He also lies, trying to make it look like he is a satisfied customer, rather than a seller. Anyone selling a quality product would not need to resort to such tactics.

EDIT: Oops. Bigblock73 types faster than I do...

Slonaker

BigRed · 07-31-2003, 11:41 PM

Go with Chevy Chic's design! I have heard postive comments about her overlays.

Prerunner1982 · 07-31-2003, 11:42 PM

crackajacka... man you should have asked here first before purchasing those things. we could have told you that. we have a resident white faced guage overlay artist here. its agreed everyone on this site would much rather have hers (chevychic) than that dishonest SOB.... she also sales on ebay...

junkyardpartseeker · 08-02-2003, 08:31 PM

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Originally posted by Prerunner1982
crackajacka... man you should have asked here first before purchasing those things. we could have told you that. we have a resident white faced guage overlay artist here. its agreed everyone on this site would much rather have hers (chevychic) than that dishonest SOB.... she also sales on ebay...

What is chevychic ebay Id?
Tommy

Prerunner1982 · 08-02-2003, 09:05 PM

not sure at the moment, tried looking for her listing, though i think it might have expired.

crackajacka · 08-03-2003, 01:31 AM

what do ya know he refunded my money

Prerunner1982 · 08-03-2003, 01:45 AM

thats suprising.... contact heather.....chvychic

78SilveradoSWB · 08-03-2003, 02:17 AM

Here was Heather's Ebay auction.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...ory=46100&rd=1

It doesn't appear she has any current auctions going at this time, but you don't have to buy via the auction. She actually will make more $$'s bypassing the Ebay auction. (no listing or auction final value fee)

chevychic · 08-04-2003, 01:16 AM

Hey guys,

I don't have any Ebay auctions going on at the moment. But you definitely don't have to go through ebay to get the gauges. Just drop me an e-mail and I can send you a sample pic if you haven't seen one.

lofat · 08-04-2003, 02:53 AM

what i want to know is if you will sell me a set with the bowtie on - like you have on yours.

Prerunner1982 · 08-04-2003, 03:10 AM

last i heard she wasnt making those yet (if at all)..........

apstguy · 08-04-2003, 03:45 AM

Current: bowtie and plain
Future:flames and GMC

Right Heather? The ones I have are bowtie and Heather sent them to me a month ago.

Prerunner1982 · 08-04-2003, 04:27 AM

i was wrong... wouldnt be the first time.....

chevychic · 08-04-2003, 10:24 AM

Very close guys. Here's what's going on.

The bowties are on hold until I get authorization from GM to use the bowtie.
The reason some people were able to get the bowtie were because they had been waiting several months as I got these ready and made sure the quality was good enough to sell. When I started realizing that the bowtie could get me in trouble if GM saw them (or someone like Durango Designs decided to report me to GM since I threaten his business), I wasn't going to go back on a lot of my friends and tell them I no longer could offer them because I was worried of a little trademark issue. So I made the gauges for everyone who had originally wanted a set and anyone who wanted some for the first month that I was offering them. Once all the orders were placed, I stopped offering them.

I know a lot of people out there get away with selling trademarked items without a license. I don't want to do business this way because with my luck, it'll come back and bite me on the @$$ and it's not very ethical to knowingly be doing something illegal. The internet is just too big and too easy to find people these days and GM is too big for someone like me to knowingly use their trademark without permission.
(I have also been in touch with a few lawyers to make sure my concern about the trademark is legit.)

So anyways, now that you all understand why I've decided to do what I'm doing, here's the current plan.

Currently I'm offering only the plain ones. The flames are designed and ready to go but aren't going to be offered unless I start seeing some more interest in them.

The future plan is to HOPEFULLY get the authorization from GM to use the bowtie then eventually the GMC logo.
I do have good news so far about the bowtie. About a month ago, I wrote a letter to the head legal advisor for GM (I scrounged around the internet to find him, his address and his phone number....see what I mean about being able to find anyone?

)

I received a letter Friday from his secretary or someone close to him with a formal application to request authorization to use the trademark. There is normally a $50 fee to go through this paperwork, but for one reason or another, someone at GM must have liked my letter enough to waive the fee. So all I have to do is fill out the form today and submit my formal request and wait.
I have no idea what direction this is going to go. I'm really hoping they approve the bowtie without costing me a ton of money for licensing. As soon as I hear anything, I'll be sure to let everyone know.

I really wish I could sell you a bowtie set, but now you understand why I can't at the moment.

BigRed · 08-04-2003, 10:40 AM

Well I'll definitely wait until the bowtie ones get approved and then I'll be hitting you up for a set.

Thanks for the update. I noticed today that there is another person selling these on Ebay. However, he doesn't have them mfg himself it looks like. Seems these are getting very popular.

Prerunner1982 · 08-04-2003, 12:50 PM

right alll along!

heather, i am pretty sure (i hope) they wont have a problem with it. if they approve it.. you should send them a set, especially since they waived the fee.

PHOENIX · 08-04-2003, 01:10 PM

Any pictures of these durangedesign overlays?

apstguy · 08-04-2003, 08:30 PM

I think it is a very good idea to wait and get authorization. Besides, once you get it you can say they are officially licenced by GM! These things do seem to be catching on. Hope GM is nice! They better be, or the community here might get angry and GM DOESN'T want to see that happen right guys?

I may have to buy a set of the flame ones too.....

07-31-2003, 11:21 PM	#1
crackajacka Stylin Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Tuttle, OK Posts: 620	durangeddesign gauge faces anyone buy a set of white gauge face overlays from durangeddesign? they suck, nothing fits right nor is anything printed correctly, everything is printed 2 wide by about 1/4-1/2 inch it looks terrible __________________ Ive been traveling for some time, with my fishin pole and my bottle of shyne. Most Girls like finished products and just dont understand what a good addiction does for you http://www.paulwall.us/

07-31-2003, 11:26 PM	#3
Slonaker Insert Witty Text Here Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 3,415	I'm not surprised. He has spammed repeatedly at both Chevy truck sites I frequent. He also lies, trying to make it look like he is a satisfied customer, rather than a seller. Anyone selling a quality product would not need to resort to such tactics. EDIT: Oops. Bigblock73 types faster than I do... Slonaker __________________ '86 Chevy C10 (Sold 04/19/13 ) Stock '01 Silverado

07-31-2003, 11:41 PM	#4
BigRed Registered User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: DFW, TX Posts: 1,680	Go with Chevy Chic's design! I have heard postive comments about her overlays. __________________ Scott Shelbourne

07-31-2003, 11:42 PM	#5
Prerunner1982 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Edmond, OK Posts: 5,904	crackajacka... man you should have asked here first before purchasing those things. we could have told you that. we have a resident white faced guage overlay artist here. its agreed everyone on this site would much rather have hers (chevychic) than that dishonest SOB.... she also sales on ebay... __________________ Jon 1982 Chevy Silverado 350/th350.... RETIRED 1993 Jeep XJ 2 door(Cherokee) 4wd 4.0ltr/AX-15 (5spd)/NP231 .... Oklahoma Roll Call

08-02-2003, 09:05 PM	#7
Prerunner1982 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Edmond, OK Posts: 5,904	not sure at the moment, tried looking for her listing, though i think it might have expired. __________________ Jon 1982 Chevy Silverado 350/th350.... RETIRED 1993 Jeep XJ 2 door(Cherokee) 4wd 4.0ltr/AX-15 (5spd)/NP231 .... Oklahoma Roll Call

07-31-2003, 11:24 PM	#2
bigblock73 yeller Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Twin Cities Posts: 13,824	Don't get us all started on them again..it might be a long thread! They are dishonest people, they spammed here already and got booted. ...Jeff

08-03-2003, 01:31 AM	#8
crackajacka Stylin Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Tuttle, OK Posts: 620	what do ya know he refunded my money __________________ Ive been traveling for some time, with my fishin pole and my bottle of shyne. Most Girls like finished products and just dont understand what a good addiction does for you http://www.paulwall.us/

08-03-2003, 01:45 AM	#9
Prerunner1982 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Edmond, OK Posts: 5,904	thats suprising.... contact heather.....chvychic __________________ Jon 1982 Chevy Silverado 350/th350.... RETIRED 1993 Jeep XJ 2 door(Cherokee) 4wd 4.0ltr/AX-15 (5spd)/NP231 .... Oklahoma Roll Call

08-03-2003, 02:17 AM	#10
78SilveradoSWB Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Beaverton, OR Posts: 1,615	Here was Heather's Ebay auction. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...ory=46100&rd=1 It doesn't appear she has any current auctions going at this time, but you don't have to buy via the auction. She actually will make more $$'s bypassing the Ebay auction. (no listing or auction final value fee) __________________ Mitch 1978 Chevrolet Silverado C 10 454 BB, TH400

08-04-2003, 01:16 AM	#11
chevychic Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Chanhassen, MN Posts: 1,061	Hey guys, I don't have any Ebay auctions going on at the moment. But you definitely don't have to go through ebay to get the gauges. Just drop me an e-mail and I can send you a sample pic if you haven't seen one. __________________ *ChevyChic* 86 Chevy K-10 If I can't be a good example, then I'll just have to be a horrible warning. "You're braver than you believe, and stronger than you seem, and smarter than you think" - Christopher Robin

08-04-2003, 02:53 AM	#12
lofat Rollin' Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Hayward, California Posts: 240	what i want to know is if you will sell me a set with the bowtie on - like you have on yours. __________________ :: 1977 C10 cheyenne :: :: 1973 new yorker brougham :: for sale - $1,500 lofat productions

08-04-2003, 03:10 AM	#13
Prerunner1982 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Edmond, OK Posts: 5,904	last i heard she wasnt making those yet (if at all).......... __________________ Jon 1982 Chevy Silverado 350/th350.... RETIRED 1993 Jeep XJ 2 door(Cherokee) 4wd 4.0ltr/AX-15 (5spd)/NP231 .... Oklahoma Roll Call

08-04-2003, 03:45 AM	#14
apstguy LED King Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 2,087	Current: bowtie and plain Future:flames and GMC Right Heather? The ones I have are bowtie and Heather sent them to me a month ago. __________________ Tyler 1985 C10 305 w/ Bowtie OD TH700R4 3.42 LSD 202,000 miles 2006 Ford Focus ZX3 5-speed Stick 2016 Chevy Spark EV Gone: 2002.5 VW GTI 24v VR6 Gone: 2008 VW R32

08-04-2003, 04:27 AM	#15
Prerunner1982 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Edmond, OK Posts: 5,904	i was wrong... wouldnt be the first time..... __________________ Jon 1982 Chevy Silverado 350/th350.... RETIRED 1993 Jeep XJ 2 door(Cherokee) 4wd 4.0ltr/AX-15 (5spd)/NP231 .... Oklahoma Roll Call

08-04-2003, 10:24 AM	#16
chevychic Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Chanhassen, MN Posts: 1,061	Very close guys. Here's what's going on. The bowties are on hold until I get authorization from GM to use the bowtie. The reason some people were able to get the bowtie were because they had been waiting several months as I got these ready and made sure the quality was good enough to sell. When I started realizing that the bowtie could get me in trouble if GM saw them (or someone like Durango Designs decided to report me to GM since I threaten his business), I wasn't going to go back on a lot of my friends and tell them I no longer could offer them because I was worried of a little trademark issue. So I made the gauges for everyone who had originally wanted a set and anyone who wanted some for the first month that I was offering them. Once all the orders were placed, I stopped offering them. I know a lot of people out there get away with selling trademarked items without a license. I don't want to do business this way because with my luck, it'll come back and bite me on the @$$ and it's not very ethical to knowingly be doing something illegal. The internet is just too big and too easy to find people these days and GM is too big for someone like me to knowingly use their trademark without permission. (I have also been in touch with a few lawyers to make sure my concern about the trademark is legit.) So anyways, now that you all understand why I've decided to do what I'm doing, here's the current plan. Currently I'm offering only the plain ones. The flames are designed and ready to go but aren't going to be offered unless I start seeing some more interest in them. The future plan is to HOPEFULLY get the authorization from GM to use the bowtie then eventually the GMC logo. I do have good news so far about the bowtie. About a month ago, I wrote a letter to the head legal advisor for GM (I scrounged around the internet to find him, his address and his phone number....see what I mean about being able to find anyone? ) I received a letter Friday from his secretary or someone close to him with a formal application to request authorization to use the trademark. There is normally a $50 fee to go through this paperwork, but for one reason or another, someone at GM must have liked my letter enough to waive the fee. So all I have to do is fill out the form today and submit my formal request and wait. I have no idea what direction this is going to go. I'm really hoping they approve the bowtie without costing me a ton of money for licensing. As soon as I hear anything, I'll be sure to let everyone know. I really wish I could sell you a bowtie set, but now you understand why I can't at the moment. __________________ *ChevyChic* 86 Chevy K-10 If I can't be a good example, then I'll just have to be a horrible warning. "You're braver than you believe, and stronger than you seem, and smarter than you think" - Christopher Robin



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08-04-2003, 10:40 AM	#17
BigRed Registered User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: DFW, TX Posts: 1,680	Well I'll definitely wait until the bowtie ones get approved and then I'll be hitting you up for a set. Thanks for the update. I noticed today that there is another person selling these on Ebay. However, he doesn't have them mfg himself it looks like. Seems these are getting very popular. __________________ Scott Shelbourne

08-04-2003, 12:50 PM	#18
Prerunner1982 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Edmond, OK Posts: 5,904	right alll along! heather, i am pretty sure (i hope) they wont have a problem with it. if they approve it.. you should send them a set, especially since they waived the fee. __________________ Jon 1982 Chevy Silverado 350/th350.... RETIRED 1993 Jeep XJ 2 door(Cherokee) 4wd 4.0ltr/AX-15 (5spd)/NP231 .... Oklahoma Roll Call

08-04-2003, 01:10 PM	#19
PHOENIX Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Phoenix, Arizona Posts: 4,703	Any pictures of these durangedesign overlays? __________________ * AVOID: LOPER'S PERMORANCE / LOPERSPEED.COM OF PHOENIX, AZ & COTTMAN TRANSMISSION *

08-04-2003, 08:30 PM	#20
apstguy LED King Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 2,087	I think it is a very good idea to wait and get authorization. Besides, once you get it you can say they are officially licenced by GM! These things do seem to be catching on. Hope GM is nice! They better be, or the community here might get angry and GM DOESN'T want to see that happen right guys? I may have to buy a set of the flame ones too..... __________________ Tyler 1985 C10 305 w/ Bowtie OD TH700R4 3.42 LSD 202,000 miles 2006 Ford Focus ZX3 5-speed Stick 2016 Chevy Spark EV Gone: 2002.5 VW GTI 24v VR6 Gone: 2008 VW R32

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