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69mychevy · 08-04-2003, 06:03 PM

hey guys i need to redo the wood in my bed, the wood is still good i'm pretty sure, but all the coating is gone, what do i use to redo it, and do you hav any tips? how many coats? stuff like that....

69mychevy · 08-04-2003, 06:26 PM

bump, come on a little help please?

beautimus · 08-04-2003, 07:35 PM

can't help you on the bed wood, but please post a full size picture of you avatar!!!!!!!!!!!!!
lol tony

69mychevy · 08-04-2003, 10:01 PM

i don't know if i can post a full picture of my avatar without gettin in trouble, she's wearin her birthday suit, can i do that? still lookin for help on the bed please people!

Mudder · 08-05-2003, 02:45 AM

So what do you want to do to that bed or in the bed? Are you gonna take it apart? Got one of those small sanders? I can sand mine while they are in the truck.. I tape the rails up good and go to town. I use a urethane of some sort and i put a lot on. Smoothness is not imprtant to me. Crap slides around back there too much the way it is. You dont even know her do ya?

MOTHERTRUCKERS · 08-05-2003, 08:16 AM

When we do bedwood we sand it with 120 grit paper then soak it in alcohol to remove the moisture then we put a 50% diluted acetone and WEST SYSTEMS marine epoxy mixture on first (for some tooth into the wood) next is another coat at 25% with acetone, then the build coats begin sanding with 400 between coats. Using this method and WEST SYSTEMS will get you at least 10 years if you take care of it without having to recoat. It's expensive but it only cost a few dollars more to go first class.

**seacrow** · 08-05-2003, 05:57 PM

Yes, I am helping Ed do this to my wood bed. I will post pics when we are done and as we are doing it. I'll try to get Ed in a couple of shots.

Kman · 08-05-2003, 06:55 PM

Ed have you had good results with thinning the west epoxy?

They do not recommend thinning the resin with solvents, but warming the resin and hardner before mixing will give you pretty good penitration in to the wood I've done it this way with about 3 coats of west then you have to put on 4 or 5 coats of spar varnish over the west to protect it from UV rays the varnish holds good as long as all the wood is sealed from moisture, which is what the west does. my 2 cents
Kman

MOTHERTRUCKERS · 08-05-2003, 08:28 PM

Yes the acetone helps it penetrate the wood easier and evaporates in seconds, i have never tried heating it, our paintbooth stays around 120 degrees without the exhaust fan on this time of year. What temp do you heat it to and whats the working time at that temp?

Kman · 08-05-2003, 08:54 PM

Ed I copied and pasted this from the west web site here is what they say (heat no more than 120 degrees)

There is a better solution to get good penetration without losing strength or moisture resistance. We recommend moderate heating of the repair area and the epoxy with a heat gun or heat lamp. The epoxy will have a lower viscosity and penetrate more deeply when it is warmed and contacts the warmed wood cavities and pores. Although the working life of the epoxy will be considerable shortened, slower hardeners (206, 207, 209) will have a longer working life and should penetrate more than 205 Hardener before they begin to gel. When the epoxy cures it will retain all of its strength and effectiveness as a moisture barrier, which we feel more than offsets any advantages gained by adding solvents to the epoxy

Hope this helped
Kman

theo goebel · 08-05-2003, 10:55 PM

great ideas all, will the sander tear up the strips if they are of the stainless type?

MOTHERTRUCKERS · 08-06-2003, 09:38 AM

Thanks Kman I will look into this, I think it pertains to petrolium based additives. I"ll do some research today.

MOTHERTRUCKERS · 08-06-2003, 06:50 PM

ok i've changed directions completely, only because i trust PPG products and they give me a 10 year warranty if we use their products exclusively, doing Seacrows bed with PPG DUC2021 clear kit and our cross splined oak bed kit. Check back in 10 years to see how it holds up to the Florida weather

08-04-2003, 06:03 PM	#1
69mychevy yes i did post something Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 244	i'm redoin my bed and i'm gonna need some tips.. hey guys i need to redo the wood in my bed, the wood is still good i'm pretty sure, but all the coating is gone, what do i use to redo it, and do you hav any tips? how many coats? stuff like that.... __________________ you can want in one hand and s h i t in the other and see which fills first NO MATTER HOW BEAUTIFUL THE GIRL(S) IN MY AVATAR IS PLEASE READ MY POST

08-04-2003, 06:26 PM	#2
69mychevy yes i did post something Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 244	bump, come on a little help please? __________________ you can want in one hand and s h i t in the other and see which fills first NO MATTER HOW BEAUTIFUL THE GIRL(S) IN MY AVATAR IS PLEASE READ MY POST

08-04-2003, 07:35 PM	#3
beautimus Registered User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: woodstock, alabama, usa Posts: 938	can't help you on the bed wood, but please post a full size picture of you avatar!!!!!!!!!!!!! lol tony __________________ i survived cancer and kidney stones, but my kids are killing me.

08-04-2003, 10:01 PM	#4
69mychevy yes i did post something Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 244	i don't know if i can post a full picture of my avatar without gettin in trouble, she's wearin her birthday suit, can i do that? still lookin for help on the bed please people! __________________ you can want in one hand and s h i t in the other and see which fills first NO MATTER HOW BEAUTIFUL THE GIRL(S) IN MY AVATAR IS PLEASE READ MY POST

08-05-2003, 08:16 AM	#6
MOTHERTRUCKERS Registered User Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: BRADENTON FLA Posts: 3,269	When we do bedwood we sand it with 120 grit paper then soak it in alcohol to remove the moisture then we put a 50% diluted acetone and WEST SYSTEMS marine epoxy mixture on first (for some tooth into the wood) next is another coat at 25% with acetone, then the build coats begin sanding with 400 between coats. Using this method and WEST SYSTEMS will get you at least 10 years if you take care of it without having to recoat. It's expensive but it only cost a few dollars more to go first class. __________________ Rest in Peace Ed. Thanks for all the good times.

08-05-2003, 02:45 AM	#5
Mudder Registered User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: East Central, MO Posts: 11,336	So what do you want to do to that bed or in the bed? Are you gonna take it apart? Got one of those small sanders? I can sand mine while they are in the truck.. I tape the rails up good and go to town. I use a urethane of some sort and i put a lot on. Smoothness is not imprtant to me. Crap slides around back there too much the way it is. You dont even know her do ya?

08-05-2003, 05:57 PM	#7
seacrow Registered User Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Bradenton, Florida Posts: 366	Yes, I am helping Ed do this to my wood bed. I will post pics when we are done and as we are doing it. I'll try to get Ed in a couple of shots. __________________ 71 GMC Custom. 350, 4bbl., auto. Restored in memory of my grandfather. 2008 Ford F-250 Super Duty CC King Ranch, moonroof, heated captains chairs, 6.4 PowerStroke. 2007 Suzuki Hayabusa, all black 1985 Mustang GT T-top, 5 spd. 54K orig miles.

08-05-2003, 06:55 PM	#8
Kman Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Melbourne,Florida Posts: 174	Ed have you had good results with thinning the west epoxy? They do not recommend thinning the resin with solvents, but warming the resin and hardner before mixing will give you pretty good penitration in to the wood I've done it this way with about 3 coats of west then you have to put on 4 or 5 coats of spar varnish over the west to protect it from UV rays the varnish holds good as long as all the wood is sealed from moisture, which is what the west does. my 2 cents Kman __________________ New 89 chevy 1500 driver 72K20 rust bucket project stripped down to the frame engine rebuild started 71 Blazer - another procect

08-05-2003, 08:28 PM	#9
MOTHERTRUCKERS Registered User Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: BRADENTON FLA Posts: 3,269	Yes the acetone helps it penetrate the wood easier and evaporates in seconds, i have never tried heating it, our paintbooth stays around 120 degrees without the exhaust fan on this time of year. What temp do you heat it to and whats the working time at that temp? __________________ Rest in Peace Ed. Thanks for all the good times.

08-05-2003, 08:54 PM	#10
Kman Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Melbourne,Florida Posts: 174	Ed I copied and pasted this from the west web site here is what they say (heat no more than 120 degrees) There is a better solution to get good penetration without losing strength or moisture resistance. We recommend moderate heating of the repair area and the epoxy with a heat gun or heat lamp. The epoxy will have a lower viscosity and penetrate more deeply when it is warmed and contacts the warmed wood cavities and pores. Although the working life of the epoxy will be considerable shortened, slower hardeners (206, 207, 209) will have a longer working life and should penetrate more than 205 Hardener before they begin to gel. When the epoxy cures it will retain all of its strength and effectiveness as a moisture barrier, which we feel more than offsets any advantages gained by adding solvents to the epoxy Hope this helped Kman __________________ New 89 chevy 1500 driver 72K20 rust bucket project stripped down to the frame engine rebuild started 71 Blazer - another procect

08-05-2003, 10:55 PM	#11
theo goebel Registered User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Seattle, WA USA 98168 Posts: 70	redoin beds great ideas all, will the sander tear up the strips if they are of the stainless type? __________________ StepSideRideRequired

08-06-2003, 09:38 AM	#12
MOTHERTRUCKERS Registered User Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: BRADENTON FLA Posts: 3,269	Thanks Kman I will look into this, I think it pertains to petrolium based additives. I"ll do some research today. __________________ Rest in Peace Ed. Thanks for all the good times.

08-06-2003, 06:50 PM	#13
MOTHERTRUCKERS Registered User Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: BRADENTON FLA Posts: 3,269	ok i've changed directions completely, only because i trust PPG products and they give me a 10 year warranty if we use their products exclusively, doing Seacrows bed with PPG DUC2021 clear kit and our cross splined oak bed kit. Check back in 10 years to see how it holds up to the Florida weather __________________ Rest in Peace Ed. Thanks for all the good times.



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