no suspension, now what?

[Coupeguy2001]

Mr Hochkis,
In all fairness to you, You know the difference between coil spring front ends and leaf spring front ends such as presented on mid 80's chevy 2X4's and 4X4's.
The early chevy trucks have the 4X4 suspensions on 2 wheel drive trucks with a solid axle and king pins. No ball joints on the vehicle at all.
The only palatable solutions are to cut the frame and weld on a suitable subframe, or replace the central front crossmember and weld on some type of unequal length control arm suspension that will support ample braking solutions.
There are a few that are popular:
1. camaro-firebird subframes
2. totally aftermarket fabricated subframes
3. mustang II derived crossmember and anchoring systems
4. Chevelle 68-72 front frame sections with "A" body suspensions
5. G body front frame sections with the "G"body suspensions
6. transform the truck into a 4X4 and lift it
7. place the original frame on top of a 80's pickup frame and weld the two together.
8. C10 front frame and components
9. replace the entire frame
All of these choices suit a wide variety of folks that are looking for cheap, easy, adequate handling and utility.
Not every choice satisfies every requirement.
Your C10 stuff isn't even possible due to the nature of the early 50's truck frames unless the C10 frame was grafted onto the early frame.
With a "G" body front frame, you are in the ballpark.
Your Chevelle stuff also is a player if that front frame is selected.
I hope you understand where the early truck is placed in the modification table.
GM saddled us with a vehicle that is awsome in style, a totally sturdy but low speed, poor handling vehicle in any day's environment. The brakes are totally inadequate given the removal of asbestos from the friction material used in brake materials available today.
THAT is our problem, and the solutions are out there, it is up to the individual truck owner to move on it.

[mknittle]

Originally Posted by Coupeguy2001

Mr Hochkis,
In all fairness to you, You know the difference between coil spring front ends and leaf spring front ends such as presented on mid 80's chevy 2X4's and 4X4's.
The early chevy trucks have the 4X4 suspensions on 2 wheel drive trucks with a solid axle and king pins. No ball joints on the vehicle at all.
The only palatable solutions are to cut the frame and weld on a suitable subframe, or replace the central front crossmember and weld on some type of unequal length control arm suspension that will support ample braking solutions.
There are a few that are popular:
1. camaro-firebird subframes
2. totally aftermarket fabricated subframes
3. mustang II derived crossmember and anchoring systems
4. Chevelle 68-72 front frame sections with "A" body suspensions
5. G body front frame sections with the "G"body suspensions
6. transform the truck into a 4X4 and lift it
7. place the original frame on top of a 80's pickup frame and weld the two together.
8. C10 front frame and components
9. replace the entire frame
All of these choices suit a wide variety of folks that are looking for cheap, easy, adequate handling and utility.
Not every choice satisfies every requirement.
Your C10 stuff isn't even possible due to the nature of the early 50's truck frames unless the C10 frame was grafted onto the early frame.
With a "G" body front frame, you are in the ballpark.
Your Chevelle stuff also is a player if that front frame is selected.
I hope you understand where the early truck is placed in the modification table.
GM saddled us with a vehicle that is awsome in style, a totally sturdy but low speed, poor handling vehicle in any day's environment. The brakes are totally inadequate given the removal of asbestos from the friction material used in brake materials available today.
THAT is our problem, and the solutions are out there, it is up to the individual truck owner to move on it.

right you are, that is why the shows are so much fun,....Off to cruse nite.

[Hotchkis]

Originally Posted by Coupeguy2001

Mr Hochkis,
In all fairness to you, You know the difference between coil spring front ends and leaf spring front ends such as presented on mid 80's chevy 2X4's and 4X4's.

Hey all, we do know the difference between the earlier trucks and newer ones, but clicked on the wrong section of the forum by accident. Sorry if anyone got their hopes up about Hotchkis making truck parts for the 47-59 trucks.

[entourageguy]

Originally Posted by Hotchkis

Hey all, we do know the difference between the earlier trucks and newer ones, but clicked on the wrong section of the forum by accident. Sorry if anyone got their hopes up about Hotchkis making truck parts for the 47-59 trucks.

No problem you will get the hang of it. Now back to the drawing board and work on some suspension for our trucks.

[meter swinger]

^^^^^ what he said
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[Denee007]

giggle giggle~, I even figured that out, but didn't say anything! I fogive you, but that was a nice looking setup!

Originally Posted by Hotchkis

Hey all, we do know the difference between the earlier trucks and newer ones, but clicked on the wrong section of the forum by accident. Sorry if anyone got their hopes up about Hotchkis making truck parts for the 47-59 trucks.