dually fenders

[Boog]

I just had a crazy idea. What would a sportside bed look like with the shortbed dually fenders on it instead of the sportside fender?
It would eliminate the front and rear steps. I think it would allow the use of wider rims and rubber back there but be narrower than a dually rearend.
Anyone with photoshop care to take a shot at this?
We can use these two borrowed pics for examples.

[1badgmc]

There are kits out there to eliminate the rear steps and I've seen trucks with the front steps shaved too. I was never a fan of stepside beds before this bodystyle because the stepside lines just never worked for me before. The one thing that makes these '88-'98 sportside beds work is the front steps. The front steps bring the lines of the cab and bed together without the bed just sort of being there. The dually fender idea would get rid of those binding lines not to mention a TON of fabrication would be needed. There's nothing behind the steps, so when you cut them off, you have to replace them with something.

I'm not so sure that the dually fenders are actually any wider than the sportside fenders either. I don't know that they'd give you any extra width. You'd do all this work and possibly not have any extra width for your wider tires and then you've ruined the smooth, flowing lines of the sportside bed with the bolt-on dually fenders.

This is just me, though. I just don't see the upside to the whole idea from my point of view. Your opinion of the results might be different.

[dragginmetal]

This is NOT dually fenders. It just gives you an idea of what it would look like.






I was thinking that the dually fenders were wider than the sportside, but I'm probably wrong.
The sportside is around 6" deep.


Now if we only knew how deep a dually fender was?

[Boog]

I think the dually fenders are deeper too but don't have one to measure. It will require some work to fill in the lower section in front and rear with the step sections removed but it should look like that green one you posted when done. The only reason I thought of using the dually fenders on the sportside bed was to give just a bit wider stance and allow a wider wheel tire setup under it.
That small pic of the black dually is actually a 1/2 ton with lowered 1ton front and rear suspension on it and he added the dually fenders on the stock fleetside bed. Best pic I have of it.

[dragginmetal]

If the dually fenders are wider, you could use the inside box from a sport and add fleet sides with dually fenders. Then theres no smc work unless you molded the dually fenders to the fleet side. You could weld the fleet to the sport box or make a flange on the top of the fleet panel and epoxy it so you keep the body line. If you went the epoxy way it would still be welded to the box on the sides, just epoxyed at the top. .....Doing it this way, there might be a problem with the filler door. Seems like a good time to shave it and add a pop up gas cap on the bed rail.

[Restrorob]

OK, Who's gonna step up and tackle this mod ?

[dragginmetal]

I thought it was Boog.

[Restrorob]

Well Mike, You seem to be the one with all the answers ! Whatcha say huh !!!

[dragginmetal]

Well, If someone wants to back me financially. I'd be happy to step up to the plate. I take pay pal.

[Boog]

NO not me. I only came up with the idea. My proposal was to put short wheel base dually fenders on a sportside bed. This would call for glass work in front and behind the fender where the steps were.
Now if one could mount up a fleetside panel on the step bed and add the dually on it, that might be just the ticket.
Now someone needs to step outside and measure a dually fender to see if they are any deeper than the sportside fender.

[1badgmc]

I didn't have a tape measure on me today, but I ran across a dually sitting on a lot I was working at. I used my phone to measure the width of the dually fenders. My phone is 4" long and the dually fenders were 2 phone lengths plus another inch or so, or about 8-9". When I got home, I measured my sportside at about 1.5 phone lengths, or about 6". So yes, the dually fenders are actually a little wider.

Originally Posted by dragginmetal

If the dually fenders are wider, you could use the inside box from a sport and add fleet sides with dually fenders.

To me, this would seem like the best way of going about it and getting it to look right without having to do a whole lot of fabrication work for the lower portions of the bed.

.....Doing it this way, there might be a problem with the filler door.

If you could find some dually fenders from a crew cab shortbed dually, it wouldn't be an issue.

This is the shortbed dually that Boog posted in the OP. If you look closely, you can see that the dually fender does cover about half of the fuel filler door.




This truck is a factory CCSB dually. The dually fenders are shaped differently so they clear the fuel door.

[Boog]

[QUOTE=dragginmetal;4920320]This is NOT dually fenders. It just gives you an idea of what it would look like.
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You said these are not dually fenders but, really, it looks just like what we are talking about. Those look like fleetside panels with dually fenders on em. Note how the bed panels are not flush with the corner of the cab. They are set in like the sportside bed.
Has someone beat us to it?

[Boog]

Can someone tell me how to enlarge these small pics? When I try it it just gets blurry.


Oh man, you just had to post up that red dually. I WANT that truck. Don't need it but I WANT it. Told my wife just Saturday I WANT a dually. She gives me the I said I know but and she said she was getting the next truk. I said yes maam. She's had the ol Burb for bout 8 yrs now.

[dragginmetal]

Truckin mag said " First off, the bed was widened 6 inches, the taillights were shaved, and the bed steps were removed to create sleeker lines."

http://www.truckinweb.com/features/0...kup/index.html

[Boog]

Yeah Mike I'm reading that. So he widened a sportside bed an used the stock fenders but shaved front and rear steps. Got 10" wide rims in there.

[1badgmc]

[quote=Boog;4921212]

Originally Posted by dragginmetal

You said these are not dually fenders but, really, it looks just like what we are talking about. Those look like fleetside panels with dually fenders on em. Note how the bed panels are not flush with the corner of the cab. They are set in like the sportside bed.
Has someone beat us to it?

This...

Originally Posted by dragginmetal

Truckin mag said " First off, the bed was widened 6 inches, the taillights were shaved, and the bed steps were removed to create sleeker lines."

I've seen this truck before. They are most definitely NOT dually fenders. That is the sportside bed with shaved front and rear steps.

Originally Posted by Boog

Can someone tell me how to enlarge these small pics? When I try it it just gets blurry.

When you start with a small image, you really can't do anything about it. You need the larger image to start with.

Oh man, you just had to post up that red dually. I WANT that truck. Don't need it but I WANT it. Told my wife just Saturday I WANT a dually. She gives me the I said I know but and she said she was getting the next truk. I said yes maam. She's had the ol Burb for bout 8 yrs now.

I already have a dually, but I don't care what anyone says, I NEED a CCSB dually to add to my collection.

[1badgmc]

Originally Posted by Boog

Yeah Mike I'm reading that. So he widened a sportside bed an used the stock fenders but shaved front and rear steps. Got 10" wide rims in there.

Heck, I have 10" wide wheels stuffed under the rear of mine.

[Boog]

And your looks great too. don't change a thing.
Wonder why he chose to widen the box. To use a deeper offset wheel in that stock size fender maybe?


You already know I love your truck.
I've been scanning the ads lately for a 5spd sprtside myself.

[1badgmc]

Originally Posted by Boog

Wonder why he chose to widen the box. To use a deeper offset wheel in that stock size fender maybe?

Maybe that's the reason, or maybe just because he could. Who knows? It's hard to tell from those dang thumbnail-sized pics, but the wheels don't really look to be much, if any deeper than mine. I have 6" backspacing on my 10" wide rears. That gives a pretty deep wheel from the front side, and I really love the look. They should really be about 7" for a bagged truck and you can see the clearance I have in the pic I posted. I really couldn't go much lower in the rear without running into some rubbing issues. It looks like the green truck might have 6" or possibly even just 5" of backspacing.

In these pics you can definitely see that the bed is wider. Check out the back of the cab and how far out the bedsides are compared to stock width. The rear shot with the tailgate shows it's definitely wider too.

On a side note, I can't believe that this is as big as the pics get for this truck on Truckin's website.