4x6 headlight upgrades without goin to hid or projecters - The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network

85sierraclassic · 12-18-2011, 08:09 PM

what headlights are you all running that are better than the stock headlights but nothing fancy, just looking for an upgrade but dont want to spend the money on hid or projecters right now.

Restrorob · 12-18-2011, 08:23 PM

Silvainia silver stars wired up on relays......

travis401 · 12-18-2011, 08:27 PM

x2 for the silverstars. stock replacement sealed beams in the 4x6 are loads better than the stockers.

85sierraclassic · 12-18-2011, 09:03 PM

alright sweet i thought i had heard this before but wasnt sure. i got a wiring harness from an import car that had h4's i think that has 2 25 amp relays and 2 20 amp fuses that was after market will this work for the relay side of things for the dim and bright headlights on top anyways?

Restrorob · 12-18-2011, 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by 85sierraclassic

i think that has 2 25 amp relays and 2 20 amp fuses that was after market will this work for the relay side of things for the dim and bright headlights on top anyways?

That should work just fine, I built my own harness off a diagram I found in the F&Q section. Both my relays run off a single 30 amp circuit breaker.....

INSIDIOUS '86 · 12-19-2011, 01:25 PM

my projector retrofit only cost me $32.50 per light including the hid kit

85sierraclassic · 12-19-2011, 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by INSIDIOUS '86

my projector retrofit only cost me $32.50 per light including the hid kit

what did you use? links would be helpful, and how do you like them?

INSIDIOUS '86 · 12-20-2011, 01:23 PM

I went to my local pull apart and pulled them out of a lexus for 20 dollars for the four so thats $5 projectors i bought an hid kit from ddm http://www.ddmtuning.com/Product-Cat...hting/HID-Kits
which were $30 a kit so $15 per ballast and bulb
and some $12.50 h4 conversoin heasdlights

so thats the $32.50 projector swap, I will post pics and a how to when im off work tonight

and I dont like them btw I LOVE THEM!!! Im serously never driving without a retro fitted projector again!

85sierraclassic · 12-20-2011, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by INSIDIOUS '86

I went to my local pull apart and pulled them out of a lexus for 20 dollars for the four so thats $5 projectors i bought an hid kit from ddm http://www.ddmtuning.com/Product-Cat...hting/HID-Kits
which were $30 a kit so $15 per ballast and bulb
and some $12.50 h4 conversoin heasdlights

so thats the $32.50 projector swap, I will post pics and a how to when im off work tonight

and I dont like them btw I LOVE THEM!!! Im serously never driving without a retro fitted projector again!

alright, thanks

*nekkidhillbilly* · 12-22-2011, 01:16 AM

couldnt you just get the composite conversion and run silverstars

85sierraclassic · 12-22-2011, 01:48 AM

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Originally Posted by nekkidhillbilly

couldnt you just get the composite conversion and run silverstars

like the clear non hid lenses?

Justins76 · 12-23-2011, 12:04 AM

Hella makes an H4 kit. They make alot of different H4 overwattage bulbs. I use 130 watt highs with a painless wiring harness.

travis401 · 12-23-2011, 11:37 AM

if you put HIDs in the non hid housings (like the hella h4 or cheap ebay housings) without fitting an actual projector in there light output will be terrible, as in worse than a stock replacement bulb.

el_guapo · 12-23-2011, 08:06 PM

Walmart sells their syvania's halogen bulbs? for a reasonable price, best thing is they are easy to install and work great. Iv'e used them on 2 chevies and been happy/ they get rid of the old nasty yellow lighting

kikkegek · 12-29-2011, 04:37 AM

guys, check for yourself.

I had Autopal headlights with halogen bulbs (standard bulbs) and now have fitted my headlights with projectors, Morimoto Mini H1 from TheRetroFitSource.com

top is halogen bottom is projectors with 5000K bulbs

blackbass · 12-29-2011, 11:45 AM

Hey Restrorob,,what did you type in on the FAQ for the lighting diagram? I tried several different terms but never got a reply. where do you get the Sylvainia silver stars? thanks

*Stew_Magoo* · 12-29-2011, 12:16 PM

Haven't done it yet, but I will be doing relays and a higher wattage bulb. I don't buy into the hid hype. They are fine in a housing designed by a lighting engineer, but not this retrofit BS. I don't buy the silverstar hype either.

Danielsternlighting.com

Read the tech section, easy to read and dispells a lot of myths.
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TheApocalyptican · 12-30-2011, 02:48 AM

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Originally Posted by kikkegek

guys, check for yourself.

I had Autopal headlights with halogen bulbs (standard bulbs) and now have fitted my headlights with projectors, Morimoto Mini H1 from TheRetroFitSource.com

top is halogen bottom is projectors with 5000K bulbs

Got pictures of how the Morimoto's look inside the housing? Ie: a pic from the front of the truck.

And to answer the op...I am using autopal 4x6 with h4 90w/100w lo/hi in the top spot, and autopal 4x6 h1 130w hi only in the bottom spot.

kikkegek · 12-30-2011, 06:28 AM

hi TheApocalyptican,

havent finished them yet, still need to paint the inside of the housing because they were old housings and the chrome is bad. still not sure if I m going with black of silver. The projector will be finished with a gatling shroud.

heres what they look now.

*nekkidhillbilly* · 12-31-2011, 01:06 AM

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Originally Posted by 85sierraclassic

like the clear non hid lenses?

yep

mongoose · 12-31-2011, 01:14 AM

ive been thinking of doing hella e codes with HID's stuffed in them.. not the best.. but pretty much the best housing you can get that isnt a projector apparently.

TheApocalyptican · 12-31-2011, 01:24 AM

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Originally Posted by mongoose

ive been thinking of doing hella e codes with HID's stuffed in them.. not the best.. but pretty much the best housing you can get that isnt a projector apparently.

I've got the e-code style autopals where the light is controlled by the reflector, with a clear lens. I used to have the e-code style autopals on my Blazer, where the reflector is smooth, and the lens controls the light. The lens controlled ones, are very similar to the hellas. The only weakness vs the hellas, is the light doesn't spread as wide. But the difference in price(to me) was worth the little bit less width. Just my 2¢.

kikkegek · 12-31-2011, 10:35 AM

here are some pics of my Autopals with Halogen and with HID bulbs...

halogen above and HID bulbs below...lots of glare

left

right

compare that to the output of my Morimoto projectors...and I am glad I spent all this time on my Retrofit...cant wait to install them...al most finished.

travis401 · 12-31-2011, 12:05 PM

looks good.

12-18-2011, 08:09 PM	#1
85sierraclassic Registered User Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: auburn ne Posts: 230	4x6 headlight upgrades without goin to hid or projecters what headlights are you all running that are better than the stock headlights but nothing fancy, just looking for an upgrade but dont want to spend the money on hid or projecters right now. __________________ 85 GMC sierra classic : 350, 4spd, 205, 3.42s, 35s

12-18-2011, 08:23 PM	#2
Restrorob The One And Only !!! Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Hole in the woods Florida Posts: 4,567	Re: 4x6 headlight upgrades without goin to hid or projecters Silvainia silver stars wired up on relays...... __________________ 93 Jeep XJ 88 Buick La Sabra Toys; 88 TA-GTA in the works.... 97 GMC Ext. Cab 502 Crate 5 Spd......Sucks Gas But Haulz Azz ! The primary function of an Engineer is to make it difficult for the Fabricator and impossible for the Mechanic. *"Why go out preserved when you can go out beat up, worn out, sliding in sideways screaming, Holy Sh!t What A Ride" !!!*

12-18-2011, 08:27 PM	#3
travis401 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Fort Worth, Tx Posts: 62	Re: 4x6 headlight upgrades without goin to hid or projecters x2 for the silverstars. stock replacement sealed beams in the 4x6 are loads better than the stockers.

12-18-2011, 09:03 PM	#4
85sierraclassic Registered User Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: auburn ne Posts: 230	Re: 4x6 headlight upgrades without goin to hid or projecters alright sweet i thought i had heard this before but wasnt sure. i got a wiring harness from an import car that had h4's i think that has 2 25 amp relays and 2 20 amp fuses that was after market will this work for the relay side of things for the dim and bright headlights on top anyways? __________________ 85 GMC sierra classic : 350, 4spd, 205, 3.42s, 35s

12-19-2011, 01:25 PM	#6
INSIDIOUS '86 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: washington Posts: 4,178	Re: 4x6 headlight upgrades without goin to hid or projecters my projector retrofit only cost me $32.50 per light including the hid kit __________________ 377 sbc thumpr cam autogear m23 muncie 3:73 Detroit trutrac 3''spintech prostreet mufflers xpipe 1 3/4 headers build thread !http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=577217 Iroc gauge threadhttp://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=554511

12-20-2011, 01:23 PM	#8
INSIDIOUS '86 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: washington Posts: 4,178	Re: 4x6 headlight upgrades without goin to hid or projecters I went to my local pull apart and pulled them out of a lexus for 20 dollars for the four so thats $5 projectors i bought an hid kit from ddm http://www.ddmtuning.com/Product-Cat...hting/HID-Kits which were $30 a kit so $15 per ballast and bulb and some $12.50 h4 conversoin heasdlights so thats the $32.50 projector swap, I will post pics and a how to when im off work tonight and I dont like them btw I LOVE THEM!!! Im serously never driving without a retro fitted projector again! __________________ 377 sbc thumpr cam autogear m23 muncie 3:73 Detroit trutrac 3''spintech prostreet mufflers xpipe 1 3/4 headers build thread !http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=577217 Iroc gauge threadhttp://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=554511

12-22-2011, 01:16 AM	#10
nekkidhillbilly Account Suspended Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: hazard, ky Posts: 1,674	Re: 4x6 headlight upgrades without goin to hid or projecters couldnt you just get the composite conversion and run silverstars

12-23-2011, 12:04 AM	#12
Justins76 OutOfMyMind & I'llNeverKnowWhy Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Another world, some other time Posts: 672	Re: 4x6 headlight upgrades without goin to hid or projecters Hella makes an H4 kit. They make alot of different H4 overwattage bulbs. I use 130 watt highs with a painless wiring harness. __________________ -Justin-Out of my mind and I'll never know why 1976 Chevrolet Silverado C10 350 4bbl / TH350 Big10 longbed 1986 Pontiac Firebird T-Top 5.0L TPI 700R4 WS6 1992 Pontiac Firebird T-Top 5.0L TBI 700R4 My cardomain page I don't like to save, it's more fun to spend!!

12-23-2011, 11:37 AM	#13
travis401 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Fort Worth, Tx Posts: 62	Re: 4x6 headlight upgrades without goin to hid or projecters if you put HIDs in the non hid housings (like the hella h4 or cheap ebay housings) without fitting an actual projector in there light output will be terrible, as in worse than a stock replacement bulb.

12-23-2011, 08:06 PM	#14
el_guapo Registered User Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: colorado springs Posts: 126	Re: 4x6 headlight upgrades without goin to hid or projecters Walmart sells their syvania's halogen bulbs? for a reasonable price, best thing is they are easy to install and work great. Iv'e used them on 2 chevies and been happy/ they get rid of the old nasty yellow lighting

12-29-2011, 04:37 AM	#15
kikkegek Registered User Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Netherlands, The Hague Posts: 1,518	Re: 4x6 headlight upgrades without goin to hid or projecters guys, check for yourself. I had Autopal headlights with halogen bulbs (standard bulbs) and now have fitted my headlights with projectors, Morimoto Mini H1 from TheRetroFitSource.com top is halogen bottom is projectors with 5000K bulbs __________________ My dreamride / project:1977 GMC C15 Suburban In storage: Monster - 1974 GMC Suburban 25hundred Sold : Chevrolet Suburban K20 Silverado 1986 Guide: real HID projectors for 4x6 headlights link: DIY LED TAILLIGHTS

12-29-2011, 11:45 AM	#16
blackbass Registered User Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: cottonwood,nm Posts: 14	Re: 4x6 headlight upgrades without goin to hid or projecters Hey Restrorob,,what did you type in on the FAQ for the lighting diagram? I tried several different terms but never got a reply. where do you get the Sylvainia silver stars? thanks

12-29-2011, 12:16 PM	#17
Stew_Magoo Account Suspended Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Milwaukee, WI Posts: 200	Re: 4x6 headlight upgrades without goin to hid or projecters Haven't done it yet, but I will be doing relays and a higher wattage bulb. I don't buy into the hid hype. They are fine in a housing designed by a lighting engineer, but not this retrofit BS. I don't buy the silverstar hype either. Danielsternlighting.com Read the tech section, easy to read and dispells a lot of myths. Posted via Mobile Device

12-30-2011, 06:28 AM	#19
kikkegek Registered User Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Netherlands, The Hague Posts: 1,518	Re: 4x6 headlight upgrades without goin to hid or projecters hi TheApocalyptican, havent finished them yet, still need to paint the inside of the housing because they were old housings and the chrome is bad. still not sure if I m going with black of silver. The projector will be finished with a gatling shroud. heres what they look now. __________________ My dreamride / project:1977 GMC C15 Suburban In storage: Monster - 1974 GMC Suburban 25hundred Sold : Chevrolet Suburban K20 Silverado 1986 Guide: real HID projectors for 4x6 headlights link: DIY LED TAILLIGHTS

12-31-2011, 01:14 AM	#21
mongoose Registered User Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: slurrey, bc. Posts: 1,134	Re: 4x6 headlight upgrades without goin to hid or projecters ive been thinking of doing hella e codes with HID's stuffed in them.. not the best.. but pretty much the best housing you can get that isnt a projector apparently. __________________ -'73 c/10 - Low with Go - will be complete... probably never. -'90 2wd Blazer - well... soon enough anyways. -'84 SWB - the daily gas guzzler.



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12-31-2011, 10:35 AM	#23
kikkegek Registered User Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Netherlands, The Hague Posts: 1,518	Re: 4x6 headlight upgrades without goin to hid or projecters here are some pics of my Autopals with Halogen and with HID bulbs... halogen above and HID bulbs below...lots of glare left right compare that to the output of my Morimoto projectors...and I am glad I spent all this time on my Retrofit...cant wait to install them...al most finished. __________________ My dreamride / project:1977 GMC C15 Suburban In storage: Monster - 1974 GMC Suburban 25hundred Sold : Chevrolet Suburban K20 Silverado 1986 Guide: real HID projectors for 4x6 headlights link: DIY LED TAILLIGHTS

12-31-2011, 12:05 PM	#24
travis401 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Fort Worth, Tx Posts: 62	Re: 4x6 headlight upgrades without goin to hid or projecters looks good.

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