Any example of "SPID and a HALF" - The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network

davepl · 02-03-2012, 01:09 AM

Sorry, I don't know what else to call it, but in the assembly manual it details how to create the SPID, and it says in effect that if there are too many options to fit on one SPID sticker, continue the list on a second SPID sticker, but only on half of it (and throw the other half away, I guess).

No mention of what to do if there are more options than will fit on 3 colums.

Anyhooo... wondering if anyone has an example? I've certainly never seen one myself.

**special-K** · 02-03-2012, 06:17 AM

I have never seen a truck with more options than one SPID would fit.

Indyuke · 02-03-2012, 09:14 AM

I think they just went with a slightly smaller font size. A friend of mine has a truck with a HUGE amount of options that cover the entire SPID. It seemed to me the font was smaller than mine.

**70cst** · 02-03-2012, 10:35 AM

Would the printers back in those days be able to adjust the fonts? Back in those days the computer wasn't an option ...

**too much stuff** · 02-03-2012, 11:43 AM

I have seen 2 spids on the square bodies, but never on 67-72. I have never seen a single, full spid for 67-72 either.

prostreetC-10 · 02-03-2012, 12:49 PM

Yeah back in those days it was morris code and a typewriter!

**Bob B.** · 02-04-2012, 12:22 AM

I have seen multiple SPID labels on medium duty trucks (C-6500's), but not pickups.

75gmc454 · 02-04-2012, 01:18 AM

I have never seen any on 67-72's, but on the later trucks I have seen a couple. Here is an old 79 gmc 1 ton I have. It has two labels. On the top of the second label it has printed "two page label". These are not very good pics.

**'68OrangeSunshine** · 02-04-2012, 05:54 AM

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Originally Posted by 70cst

Would the printers back in those days be able to adjust the fonts? Back in those days the computer wasn't an option ...

I believe they used the IBM Selectric electric typewriter. That model had removable "fonts" in the form of a type-ball that snapped into the front of the unit. Several different type-balls were available.
Most typewriters in that period had a fixed typeface. Either "Pica" or "Elite" -- one was slightly smaller than the other. I forgot which.

1972K20 · 02-04-2012, 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by '68OrangeSunshine

I believe they used the IBM Selectric electric typewriter. That model had removable "fonts" in the form of a type-ball that snapped into the front of the unit. Several different type-balls were available.
Most typewriters in that period had a fixed typeface. Either "Pica" or "Elite" -- one was slightly smaller than the other. I forgot which.

Do you know what font was used?

chipflyer · 02-04-2012, 05:34 PM

Never seen one with more than a one sheet either. You will never find a typewriter that matches the font used because they were NOT done one at a time with a typewriter. They were done on a large mainframe printers that had their own unique character set.

Jeff

davepl · 02-04-2012, 08:17 PM

I assumed it would have been a big tractor-feed chain impact printer or the like. Given enough samples you could build a font that looked close, but it still wouldn't look exactly like an impact printer.

For that matter there's no guarantee that each of the plants used the same model printer, but given GM likely just contracted with IBM or Burroughs or someone for their IT, they probably did.

1972K20 · 02-04-2012, 10:16 PM

Dave, I've wondered the same thing. All the different plants and over the years, there's probably some variations to the font used.

chipflyer · 02-04-2012, 10:37 PM

You can look at all the spids you want in this post and decide for yourself SPID pictures but I think you will find that all years all factories did them the same way with the exception of the canada plant who laid them out a little different but did use the same "font".

Jeff

**special-K** · 02-05-2012, 09:00 AM

I was always told to use the IBM type.

**'68OrangeSunshine** · 02-08-2012, 02:34 AM

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Originally Posted by 1972K20

Do you know what font was used?

Sorry I have no clue what IBM font they used. I'm a Royal manual user. I didn't like electrics, they were too sensitive for my rough style.

02-03-2012, 01:09 AM	#1
davepl Registered User Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Redmond, WA Posts: 6,332	Any example of "SPID and a HALF" Sorry, I don't know what else to call it, but in the assembly manual it details how to create the SPID, and it says in effect that if there are too many options to fit on one SPID sticker, continue the list on a second SPID sticker, but only on half of it (and throw the other half away, I guess). No mention of what to do if there are more options than will fit on 3 colums. Anyhooo... wondering if anyone has an example? I've certainly never seen one myself.

02-03-2012, 06:17 AM	#2
special-K Special Order Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Mt Airy, MD Posts: 85,862	Re: Any example of "SPID and a HALF" I have never seen a truck with more options than one SPID would fit. __________________ "BUILDING A BETTER WAY TO SERVE THE USA"......67/72......"The New Breed" GMC '67 C1500 Wideside Super Custom SWB: 327/M22/3.42 posi.........."The '67" (project) GMC '72 K2500 Wideside Sierra Custom Camper: 350/TH350/4.10 Power-Lok..."The '72" (rolling) Tim "Don't call me a redneck. I'm a rough cut country gentleman" R.I.P. ~ East Side Low Life ~ El Jay ~ 72BLUZ ~ Fasteddie69 ~ Ron586 ~ 67ChevyRedneck ~ Grumpy Old Man ~

02-03-2012, 09:14 AM	#3
Indyuke Registered User Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Lake Stevens, WA Posts: 623	Re: Any example of "SPID and a HALF" I think they just went with a slightly smaller font size. A friend of mine has a truck with a HUGE amount of options that cover the entire SPID. It seemed to me the font was smaller than mine.

02-03-2012, 10:35 AM	#4
70cst Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: New Madison, Ohio Posts: 21,365	Re: Any example of "SPID and a HALF" Would the printers back in those days be able to adjust the fonts? Back in those days the computer wasn't an option ... __________________ A husband can be right...or...A husband can be happy. 67-72 Chevy and GMC Trucks...The Classic Truck for the Classic Folk. 1970 CST Two tone green, 402BB, 400 Automatic, Tach, Buckets, AC, AM-FM, Tilt, GM CB, GM 8 Tract, LWB, etc JOHN 17:3...The better side of "LIFE" Remember: Everyday is a good day...Some are just gooder!

02-03-2012, 11:43 AM	#5
too much stuff Roadtrip! Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Grand Rapids MN Posts: 13,712	Re: Any example of "SPID and a HALF" I have seen 2 spids on the square bodies, but never on 67-72. I have never seen a single, full spid for 67-72 either. __________________ 67 gmc custom lwb dakota truck. Sold...And bought back 69 swb 4x4 project (in progress) 70 c-10 lwb texas truck 70 4x4/BB/bkts/posi/tach(retired) 70 swb (wifes) 70 jimmy camper 71 K-5 factory 2wd 71 cheyenne 4x4/tach/posi/ plow rig 71 Cheyenne20 BB, buckets, tach, tilt, 4 speed 72 jimmy CST wyoming rig 72 jimmy Colorado rig 72 lifted texas 4x4 3/4 ton burb 65 fury conv. 383/auto 65 chrysler 300 "L" 413 auto

02-03-2012, 12:49 PM	#6
prostreetC-10 My Carbon Footprint Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Orygun Posts: 5,527	Re: Any example of "SPID and a HALF" Yeah back in those days it was morris code and a typewriter! __________________ A quick "pedalfest" *Still getting loose (carb test)* 496 Initial fire up video!

02-04-2012, 12:22 AM	#7
Bob B. Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 1,316	Re: Any example of "SPID and a HALF" I have seen multiple SPID labels on medium duty trucks (C-6500's), but not pickups. __________________ 1967 GMC CM-2500 Camper Cruiser, 351E V-6, NP 435 4 speed, Dana 60, and factory A/C. 2012 GMC K-3500 WT regular cab, 6.0L Vortec, 6L90.

02-04-2012, 01:18 AM	#8
75gmc454 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: MS Posts: 479	Re: Any example of "SPID and a HALF" I have never seen any on 67-72's, but on the later trucks I have seen a couple. Here is an old 79 gmc 1 ton I have. It has two labels. On the top of the second label it has printed "two page label". These are not very good pics.

02-04-2012, 05:34 PM	#11
chipflyer Registered User Join Date: May 2004 Location: Topeka, Ks Posts: 2,293	Re: Any example of "SPID and a HALF" Never seen one with more than a one sheet either. You will never find a typewriter that matches the font used because they were NOT done one at a time with a typewriter. They were done on a large mainframe printers that had their own unique character set. Jeff __________________ I'm not a pessimist, I'm just optimistic that bad things are going to happen. 1971 Cheyenne Super K10 - tilt, cruise, air, am/fm, tow hooks, factory buckets! 1986 Jeep J10 pickup, - 5.3L Vortec with 4L60e and NP241.

02-04-2012, 08:17 PM	#12
davepl Registered User Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Redmond, WA Posts: 6,332	Re: Any example of "SPID and a HALF" I assumed it would have been a big tractor-feed chain impact printer or the like. Given enough samples you could build a font that looked close, but it still wouldn't look exactly like an impact printer. For that matter there's no guarantee that each of the plants used the same model printer, but given GM likely just contracted with IBM or Burroughs or someone for their IT, they probably did.

02-04-2012, 10:16 PM	#13
1972K20 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Alabama Posts: 739	Re: Any example of "SPID and a HALF" Dave, I've wondered the same thing. All the different plants and over the years, there's probably some variations to the font used.

02-04-2012, 10:37 PM	#14
chipflyer Registered User Join Date: May 2004 Location: Topeka, Ks Posts: 2,293	Re: Any example of "SPID and a HALF" You can look at all the spids you want in this post and decide for yourself SPID pictures but I think you will find that all years all factories did them the same way with the exception of the canada plant who laid them out a little different but did use the same "font". Jeff __________________ I'm not a pessimist, I'm just optimistic that bad things are going to happen. 1971 Cheyenne Super K10 - tilt, cruise, air, am/fm, tow hooks, factory buckets! 1986 Jeep J10 pickup, - 5.3L Vortec with 4L60e and NP241.

02-05-2012, 09:00 AM	#15
special-K Special Order Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Mt Airy, MD Posts: 85,862	Re: Any example of "SPID and a HALF" I was always told to use the IBM type. __________________ "BUILDING A BETTER WAY TO SERVE THE USA"......67/72......"The New Breed" GMC '67 C1500 Wideside Super Custom SWB: 327/M22/3.42 posi.........."The '67" (project) GMC '72 K2500 Wideside Sierra Custom Camper: 350/TH350/4.10 Power-Lok..."The '72" (rolling) Tim "Don't call me a redneck. I'm a rough cut country gentleman" R.I.P. ~ East Side Low Life ~ El Jay ~ 72BLUZ ~ Fasteddie69 ~ Ron586 ~ 67ChevyRedneck ~ Grumpy Old Man ~



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