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72c10step · 09-07-2003, 08:19 PM

Phew, finally got caught up looking through the posts here so I can post again without getting to confused. First the good news:

My friend finally got the V8/TH350 in place of the former I6/3 speed column. Got the motor running and tuned it a bit. (I was there helping him, and now know what it feels like to get my hand hit by the engine fan while its running. Doh!) He took it to the loacl cruise night a week and a half ago, and I asked how he moved it without the proper column or driveshaft. He said he made his own driveshaft, by cuttin two and welding them together at the correct length temporarily so he could move it around the yard (and get it to the show that night), and he hooked up the TH350 to the 3 speed column, and it worked great (just no shift indicator). I didn't know you can do that.

Bad news to follow on the next post.

72c10step · 09-07-2003, 08:28 PM

And now the bad news:

In the middle of last week he was driving down the road (dont know the whole story, he could have been screwing around), and he hears this big bang. Back end lifts off the ground. u joint cap shoots out and dents his bedside, and as he lands, the chrome rings pop off his rims and roll down the road past him.

Here is a pic of the driveshaft.

72c10step · 09-07-2003, 08:30 PM

He thought it was just the driveshaft (the ubolts holding it on were mangled), so he went and had one built and balanced at a shop around here. Tranny wouldn't go into gear. So he looked closer, and this is what he found:

72c10step · 09-07-2003, 08:31 PM

Kinda ruins your whole day, huh? Now he needs a new tranny. He had taken this one out of a wrecked truck, so we're guessing it had stress cracks in it that he didn't see. Heres another pic:

*Randy70C-10* · 09-07-2003, 08:43 PM

Holy sh*t, that's bad!

**FRENCHBLUE72** · 09-07-2003, 08:45 PM

Had that happen when I neutral dropped a car one time ....ATF WENT EVERYWHERE...

**CPNE** · 09-07-2003, 08:51 PM

I have a working th400 or a rebuildable th350 core if your friend is interested. Looks like he may be in the market. All pulled from 67-72 trucks.

*Shane* · 09-07-2003, 08:56 PM

That was pretty silly to drive something like that on a public road. Drive shafts are made as a single peice of tubing for a reason ... its called balance. Sorry for the flame here ... but that has to be one of the silliest things I have heard in a very long time.

miket · 09-07-2003, 09:08 PM

Ditto what Shane said!!

jewels. · 09-07-2003, 09:15 PM

ok guys - you will have to help me out here.... the woman is lost...

i was looking at these pictures, and comparing to my truck (which is a manual on the column) --- and i dont understand what we are supposed to see in the pictures. is the transmission so far towards the drivers side in that first pic? is that it? did the transmission come off of the cross member?

someone describe what has happened here, cause with only my truck to compare this picture to, i'm a little lost. sorry. call me a woman!

jewels.

Truckstr · 09-07-2003, 09:16 PM

Nah, that's not so silly. The guy that I heard about today that set the firecracker off in his butt... now THAT was silly. Well, then again, the driveshaft thing is/was silly. The firecracker thing was just stupid.

**truckster** · 09-07-2003, 09:23 PM

Jewels, look in the second pic at the jagged crack running across the middle of the picture. That's the transmission bell housing, and it's in two pieces.

*Phillip Johnson* · 09-07-2003, 09:23 PM

The case can be welded.. I bought a 350 turbo with a welded case. You just need the right guy to do it.

*Shane* · 09-07-2003, 09:25 PM

here ya go Jewels

72c10step · 09-07-2003, 09:25 PM

Yeah, I told him the same thing about the driveshaft, he said it went down the road with no vibrations and it was only temporary until he had the custom driveshaft built. The suprising thing is that the driveshaft didn't break on the welds.

CPNE, he already got a TH350 core from someone his dad knows, got a auto trans column too at the same time.

jewels, what you are seeing in the pictures is the huge crack that goes completely around the housing of the transmission. It's still bolted to the motor, but not connected anymore. Basically, the housing is in 2 or 3 pieces.

*edit* Just saw Shane's pic. Sums it up pretty good. The things some impatient people do just to drive their truck again.

jewels. · 09-07-2003, 09:26 PM

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Originally posted by truckster
Jewels, look in the second pic at the jagged crack running across the middle of the picture. That's the transmission bell housing, and it's in two pieces.

OH WOW!!!! Ok - i thought that was just a wire or something running across the picture ---- the flash on the camera kinda lights it up funny. WOW!!!

WOW!!!!!

That was some silly thing to do --- run a drive shaft like that. WOW!

Thanks Truckster!

jewels.

tyger25 · 09-07-2003, 09:34 PM

Yeah, I didn't see the crack either til I looked for a minute. When I figured out what I was looking at, I knew that couldn't be good.

68lnb · 09-07-2003, 10:24 PM

WOW!!!

bow-tie-bandit · 09-07-2003, 10:56 PM

I've never seen the Grand Canyon before. I heard it looks something like that. Sorry to hear about your friends misfortune.

truckresq · 09-08-2003, 03:27 PM

Just went out on a call lastnight, Kid coming hard off intersection, neighbors heard a large bang and assumed it was an accident, we got out there and all we found was a kid walking around, scratching his head and driveshaft pieces laying around. NEW flowmasters smashed on the ground and a fuel line broken and dripping on to the exhaust(Lucky no fire). Of course when his dad arrived, the story was.."I was just driving along and all of a sudden....." His dad yealled at him, told him he was lucking it didnt pole vault him, and wont be driving again until he can afford to replace all broken parts.

Good lesson to learn early and good dad for enforcing that.

jakobs71chevy · 09-08-2003, 03:41 PM

HAD A FRIEND THT WAS SHOWIN OF ONE NIGHT IN HIS NOVA AND WAS RUNNIN DOWN THE ROAD HIT SECOND GEAR BROKE OFF THE U JOINT AND THE DRIVESHAFT BOUNCED UP AND PUT 2 BIG HOLES IN THE REAR FLOOR B 4 IT SPIT OUT BEHIND HIM

PanelDeland · 09-08-2003, 08:10 PM

Helps to understand why NHRA requires driveshaft loops.I have seen major damage from driveshafts.This looks somewhat minor compared to some.
I once "HAD" an aquaintance who had a driveshaft come thru the floorboard of a pick-up.It beat him to death,and broke his brothers arm and cracked his skull.

mrein3 · 09-08-2003, 10:24 PM

Back when I was in college I worked at a fix-it shop with two full service gas pumps on a corner where there is a 4-way stop sign. So one day I'm outside filling a car, washing the windows, checking oil, etc. when this '75 Monte pulls up to the stop sign. Not another car in sight. He floors it, gets about 50 feet, and WHACK, thunka, thunka, thunka....
He stops almost directly across the street from me, gets out, sees the driveshave laying on the ground, drops the loudest F-bomb I had ever heard up until that point in my life, boots the car door, looks at me, then continues walking up the street in the direction he was headed.

Hooter · 09-08-2003, 10:33 PM

well Im not the least bit surprised with the driveshaft, that thing was probably so severely unbalanced that it shook the hell out of everything on that truck, welding two driveshafts together is never a good idea, kinda how like hammering a pushrod straight is never a good idea either

09-07-2003, 08:19 PM	#1
72c10step WHYBYNU when old will do? Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Loudon, NH Posts: 876	My friends truck, good news and bad news!!! Phew, finally got caught up looking through the posts here so I can post again without getting to confused. First the good news: My friend finally got the V8/TH350 in place of the former I6/3 speed column. Got the motor running and tuned it a bit. (I was there helping him, and now know what it feels like to get my hand hit by the engine fan while its running. Doh!) He took it to the loacl cruise night a week and a half ago, and I asked how he moved it without the proper column or driveshaft. He said he made his own driveshaft, by cuttin two and welding them together at the correct length temporarily so he could move it around the yard (and get it to the show that night), and he hooked up the TH350 to the 3 speed column, and it worked great (just no shift indicator). I didn't know you can do that. Bad news to follow on the next post. __________________ -72 Chevy C10 Stepside -2002 Chevy Silverado 2500HD 4x4 -1984 Jeep CJ7 -1995 Polaris XCR600 Custom -2003 Honda 300ex

09-07-2003, 08:28 PM	#2
72c10step WHYBYNU when old will do? Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Loudon, NH Posts: 876	And now the bad news: In the middle of last week he was driving down the road (dont know the whole story, he could have been screwing around), and he hears this big bang. Back end lifts off the ground. u joint cap shoots out and dents his bedside, and as he lands, the chrome rings pop off his rims and roll down the road past him. Here is a pic of the driveshaft. Attached Images __________________ -72 Chevy C10 Stepside -2002 Chevy Silverado 2500HD 4x4 -1984 Jeep CJ7 -1995 Polaris XCR600 Custom -2003 Honda 300ex

09-07-2003, 08:30 PM	#3
72c10step WHYBYNU when old will do? Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Loudon, NH Posts: 876	He thought it was just the driveshaft (the ubolts holding it on were mangled), so he went and had one built and balanced at a shop around here. Tranny wouldn't go into gear. So he looked closer, and this is what he found: Attached Images __________________ -72 Chevy C10 Stepside -2002 Chevy Silverado 2500HD 4x4 -1984 Jeep CJ7 -1995 Polaris XCR600 Custom -2003 Honda 300ex

09-07-2003, 08:31 PM	#4
72c10step WHYBYNU when old will do? Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Loudon, NH Posts: 876	Kinda ruins your whole day, huh? Now he needs a new tranny. He had taken this one out of a wrecked truck, so we're guessing it had stress cracks in it that he didn't see. Heres another pic: Attached Images __________________ -72 Chevy C10 Stepside -2002 Chevy Silverado 2500HD 4x4 -1984 Jeep CJ7 -1995 Polaris XCR600 Custom -2003 Honda 300ex

09-07-2003, 08:45 PM	#6
FRENCHBLUE72 PROJECT 7DEUCE Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: GRANTS PASS OR Posts: 21,608	Had that happen when I neutral dropped a car one time ....ATF WENT EVERYWHERE... __________________ GO BIG GREEN GO DUCKS MEMBER #6377 72 k-5 daily driver 6'' lift 35'' 350-350-205 slowly getting rust free. Project "7DEUCE" check out my build http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=267665 Tim Powell..R.I.P EastSideLowlife..... R.I.P..

09-07-2003, 08:43 PM	#5
Randy70C-10 Account Suspended Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Virginia Beach, Va. U.S.A. Posts: 15,320	Holy sh*t, that's bad!

09-07-2003, 08:51 PM	#7
CPNE Resident Curmudgeon Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: NH Posts: 6,664	I have a working th400 or a rebuildable th350 core if your friend is interested. Looks like he may be in the market. All pulled from 67-72 trucks. __________________ Currently on or near the homestead: 67 Chevy SWB 2WD stepside 350/3 on tree (Pat's) 67 GMC SWB 2WD Fleet 402/auto (Brian's under construction) 67 Chevy 3/4 ton 2WD 402/auto (Business Hauler) 67 Chevy 1 ton dually 2WD 396/4 speed (Former business hauler, Needs TLC) 68 Chevy 1/2 ton Suburban 2WD 250 six/3 on tree (Brian's Needs TLC) 70 Chevy 3/4 ton 4WD 350/4 speed (Pat's - Disguised as a 68 GMC) 71 Chevy SWB stepside (Crushed by tree - parts donor) 72 Chevy 3/4 ton 4WD (Parts donor) 72 Chevy 3/4 ton 4WD Suburban (Parts Donor) 72 GMC 3/4 ton 4WD 292 six/4 speed (Mine - Disguised as a 67 GMC) 81 GMC 4WD Dually Dump Body 350/4 speed (Business Hauler) 82 Camaro Z/28 355/Super T-10 (Pat's toy) 93 Caprice 9C1 (Brian's Cop Car) 02 Toyota Camry (Reliable but a souless steel and plastic hulk) 2011 2SS RS Camaro M6 Factory Hurst Shifter Maybe I need to sell some of this crap Yet another Bozo with a sawz-all

09-07-2003, 08:56 PM	#8
Shane Account Suspended Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: over yonder Posts: 14,270	That was pretty silly to drive something like that on a public road. Drive shafts are made as a single peice of tubing for a reason ... its called balance. Sorry for the flame here ... but that has to be one of the silliest things I have heard in a very long time. Last edited by Shane; 09-07-2003 at 09:13 PM.

09-07-2003, 09:08 PM	#9
miket Registered User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Seattle WA Posts: 1,466	Ditto what Shane said!! __________________ FocuzTech Performance Evergreen Protective Coatings Gatorhyde...the best kept secret in spray in bed lining & protection

09-07-2003, 09:15 PM	#10
jewels. Registered User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Munster, IN Posts: 1,100	ok guys - you will have to help me out here.... the woman is lost... i was looking at these pictures, and comparing to my truck (which is a manual on the column) --- and i dont understand what we are supposed to see in the pictures. is the transmission so far towards the drivers side in that first pic? is that it? did the transmission come off of the cross member? someone describe what has happened here, cause with only my truck to compare this picture to, i'm a little lost. sorry. call me a woman! jewels. __________________ 68 C10 Red Step 350 my first child & main focus 58 3200 Apache LWB Step the upcoming project

09-07-2003, 09:16 PM	#11
Truckstr Registered User Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Lebanon, Tennessee Posts: 1,372	Nah, that's not so silly. The guy that I heard about today that set the firecracker off in his butt... now THAT was silly. Well, then again, the driveshaft thing is/was silly. The firecracker thing was just stupid. __________________ Jeff '67 short Fleet; my ongoing project. '66 long Fleet; my original "baby." Live life or bust trying.

09-07-2003, 09:23 PM	#12
truckster Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Orem, Utah Posts: 7,901	Jewels, look in the second pic at the jagged crack running across the middle of the picture. That's the transmission bell housing, and it's in two pieces. __________________ I have sworn upon the altar of God, eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man. - Thomas Jefferson

09-07-2003, 09:23 PM	#13
Phillip Johnson Account Suspended Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Grants Pass, Oregon Posts: 1,580	The case can be welded.. I bought a 350 turbo with a welded case. You just need the right guy to do it.

09-07-2003, 09:25 PM	#14
Shane Account Suspended Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: over yonder Posts: 14,270	here ya go Jewels Attached Images

09-07-2003, 09:34 PM	#17
tyger25 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Little Rock, Ar Posts: 124	Yeah, I didn't see the crack either til I looked for a minute. When I figured out what I was looking at, I knew that couldn't be good. __________________ U.S.A.F. 68' C-10 Stepside 305 w/ 4 speed



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09-07-2003, 10:24 PM	#18
68lnb Registered User Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Chino Valley AZ Posts: 25	WOW!!! __________________ 68 C20 lnb

09-07-2003, 10:56 PM	#19
bow-tie-bandit Live life and be happy. Join Date: May 2003 Location: Spokane,Washington Posts: 266	I've never seen the Grand Canyon before. I heard it looks something like that. Sorry to hear about your friends misfortune. __________________

09-08-2003, 03:27 PM	#20
truckresq Registered User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Sac Valley Posts: 179	Not good Just went out on a call lastnight, Kid coming hard off intersection, neighbors heard a large bang and assumed it was an accident, we got out there and all we found was a kid walking around, scratching his head and driveshaft pieces laying around. NEW flowmasters smashed on the ground and a fuel line broken and dripping on to the exhaust(Lucky no fire). Of course when his dad arrived, the story was.."I was just driving along and all of a sudden....." His dad yealled at him, told him he was lucking it didnt pole vault him, and wont be driving again until he can afford to replace all broken parts. Good lesson to learn early and good dad for enforcing that. __________________ John Sacramento Area 1969 C10 Fleetside

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09-08-2003, 08:10 PM	#22
PanelDeland I am a Referee of life. Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Greensboro N.C. Posts: 13,993	Helps to understand why NHRA requires driveshaft loops.I have seen major damage from driveshafts.This looks somewhat minor compared to some. I once "HAD" an aquaintance who had a driveshaft come thru the floorboard of a pick-up.It beat him to death,and broke his brothers arm and cracked his skull. __________________ The 47-present Chevrolet and GMC Truck Message Board Network,it's owners,moderators,members,and associates of any type should not be held responsible for my opinion. You can't fix stupid,not even with duct tape. "My appearance is due to the fact that "GOD" does punish you for having too much fun!" Barrett-Jackson has perfected alchemy,they make rust into gold! "You can lead a horse to water but you can't saddle a duck" "Cleverly disguised as a 'Responsible Adult' "Sometimes your Knight in shining armor is just a retard in tinfoil"

09-08-2003, 10:24 PM	#23
mrein3 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2000 Location: Center City, MN, USA Posts: 3,254	Back when I was in college I worked at a fix-it shop with two full service gas pumps on a corner where there is a 4-way stop sign. So one day I'm outside filling a car, washing the windows, checking oil, etc. when this '75 Monte pulls up to the stop sign. Not another car in sight. He floors it, gets about 50 feet, and WHACK, thunka, thunka, thunka.... He stops almost directly across the street from me, gets out, sees the driveshave laying on the ground, drops the loudest F-bomb I had ever heard up until that point in my life, boots the car door, looks at me, then continues walking up the street in the direction he was headed. __________________ '70 cab, '71 chassis, 383, TH350, NP205. '71 Malibu convertible '72 Malibu hard top Center City, MN

09-08-2003, 10:33 PM	#24
Hooter My other Love Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Castlegar B.C. Canada Posts: 4,085	well Im not the least bit surprised with the driveshaft, that thing was probably so severely unbalanced that it shook the hell out of everything on that truck, welding two driveshafts together is never a good idea, kinda how like hammering a pushrod straight is never a good idea either __________________ Castlegar B.C.The great white North (Canada Eh!) Hooter_5@hotmail.com First generation Monte Carlo club pictures of my life

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