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c10concepts · 02-22-2012, 11:43 PM

Ive been saving to get back into another 67-72 swb for a few years and ive found one in decent shape needs some minor work and in my price range... Only problem he only has a bill of sale he told me why he only had a bill of sale instead apparently the guy was in Iraq when it was sold to him by the owners mom... He said all I would have to do is go to my insurance company get a surety bond then I could go get a Bonded title but wouldn't get a blue title for a year... Just looking for some advise don't know what to do.. Already not having the title is throwing up red flags... Any advice is appreciated...

here it is http://dallas.craigslist.org/dal/bar/2865124839.html

71swb4x4 · 02-22-2012, 11:46 PM

Pass.

Was his mom authorized to sell it? If not the truck may be reported stolen when the son gets back and you will be out money and your new truck. Maybe that's not even the real story. If it was that "easy" to get the title hits guy would have already done it.

There are a lot of 67-72 trucks out there, keep looking.

If you really want it I would pay about 25% of what it would be worth with a title. You are taking a huge chance, both financially and possibly legally if the po-po decide that you were the one that stole it.

c10concepts · 02-22-2012, 11:50 PM

Yeah its a little fishy he said she was on the title but something with the power of attorney was not correct... Don't think I wanna go through all that hassle and it be stolen.. But I work at a auto auction and work with the DMV so i can have it checked but even if it comes up clean Im still iffy...

**70cst** · 02-23-2012, 02:57 AM

Run c10concepts run...

Agreed sounds fishy to me and why gamble. JMHO

MikeyMan · 02-23-2012, 06:31 AM

Huge Red Flag!

Do yourself a favor and pass on this shady deal. Seller looking to take all finds of funky trades?

You'll lose your money, lose the truck, and end up with lawyer's fees.

70chevytruck · 02-23-2012, 09:01 AM

Bought a $500 truck from a guy with California plates...NO TITLE. Called California and made sure it wasn't stolen, Checked in Texas also.
Went to get a bonded title..they base the truck price on NADA plus 25%. Ended up costing me $350 in taxes because the NADA on these trucks is around $13000 average. Pretty ridiculous. Doesn't take a year just a month or so.

The way I understand it if I put a bunch of money into a $500 truck and eventually sell it the bond covers the truck in case of a bad title.

Not impossible just not a lot of fun. Figured for $500 I couldn't go wrong. Here is a pic of what I bought for $500. Big Block, A/C, P/S, P/B Rebuilt motor.

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Call TXDOT and find out what the charge would be...on a $4K truck it could be $800 plus for a title. I would make him get a title for it first for that kind of money. Otherwise walk.

**RenoKeene** · 02-23-2012, 09:37 AM

Doesn't look like 4k even with a title.......

c10concepts · 02-23-2012, 12:33 PM

Well I did negotiate him down but I am still going to check the vin its free for me to check at my job... I'll probably end up passing on it just cause of my gut feeling and what you guys and my friends say.... Thanks
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JWall · 02-23-2012, 12:36 PM

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I'll probably end up passing on it just cause of my gut feeling Posted via Mobile Device

I'd pass too... I always go with my gut.
Plus it sounds like its going to be more work (and headaches) for you & buying a 67-72 should be a fun process.

c10concepts · 02-23-2012, 12:49 PM

True Jwall it is and just thinking about what u have to do just to get the title is not a great feeling... Imma keep looking found a couple but they are rollers...looks like that's the route I'm going to have to go...
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**Stocker** · 02-23-2012, 12:57 PM

I agree with the others.... too many red flags as to the title. Even if the Iraq story is legit, sounds like he is stateside now so he should be able to get the title if he wants to sell it to you. Otherwise it could turn into a huge headache for you.

c10concepts · 02-23-2012, 07:32 PM

Yeah I am going to pass I found another one that has a clear title its a step side but that can easily be changed...

**jocko** · 02-23-2012, 07:51 PM

Does not run does not = $4K. Steer away from questionable titles, not worth the worry to sort it out, and you could get screwed. I have been anyway. There are other fish in the sea, keep fishin.

c10concepts · 02-24-2012, 03:32 PM

Yeah I passed on it... Looking at a 69 SWB stepside monday...

dirtyd_nd · 02-24-2012, 03:44 PM

If you are still interested in the truck and he is in the military have him get a new POA general or specific. It free for all of us in the military. It just has to be signed by any O-4 or above or the legal officer. He can then fax or email it to his mom.

Dale

buz48 · 02-24-2012, 04:54 PM

RUN RUN!!!! Like your hairs on fire

R.L. · 02-25-2012, 12:42 AM

Keep looking you can find another with good paperwork. They'll be pleanty of things to spend that money on. The title may be the very reason there willing to sell that truck.

c10concepts · 02-26-2012, 03:29 AM

Thanks I'm going to look at a friends 71 swb tomorrow hopefully I can get it...
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c10concepts · 02-27-2012, 01:49 AM

Well I got her 71 GMC SWB little rust needs some body work but runs and drives... With a clean title lol just needs tags and inspection to be on the road and that will be solved a.s.a.p.

YBNORML · 02-27-2012, 02:17 AM

Congrats! looks like a good start.

c10concepts · 02-27-2012, 09:49 AM

Thanks yeah ready to get her going....
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**RenoKeene** · 02-27-2012, 12:18 PM

Good job, glad you waited. That will make a good one, congrats!

c10concepts · 02-27-2012, 02:50 PM

Yeah it will be... He's getting it road worthy for me.. Got a good deal on it...
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69C-owner · 02-27-2012, 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by 70chevytruck

Bought a $500 truck from a guy with California plates...NO TITLE. Called California and made sure it wasn't stolen, Checked in Texas also.
Went to get a bonded title..they base the truck price on NADA plus 25%. Ended up costing me $350 in taxes because the NADA on these trucks is around $13000 average. Pretty ridiculous. Doesn't take a year just a month or so.

The way I understand it if I put a bunch of money into a $500 truck and eventually sell it the bond covers the truck in case of a bad title.

Not impossible just not a lot of fun. Figured for $500 I couldn't go wrong. Here is a pic of what I bought for $500. Big Block, A/C, P/S, P/B Rebuilt motor.

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Call TXDOT and find out what the charge would be...on a $4K truck it could be $800 plus for a title. I would make him get a title for it first for that kind of money. Otherwise walk.

thats a steal for $500
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02-22-2012, 11:43 PM	#1
c10concepts Registered User Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Haslet,Texas Posts: 74	Need Some advice!!! Ive been saving to get back into another 67-72 swb for a few years and ive found one in decent shape needs some minor work and in my price range... Only problem he only has a bill of sale he told me why he only had a bill of sale instead apparently the guy was in Iraq when it was sold to him by the owners mom... He said all I would have to do is go to my insurance company get a surety bond then I could go get a Bonded title but wouldn't get a blue title for a year... Just looking for some advise don't know what to do.. Already not having the title is throwing up red flags... Any advice is appreciated... here it is http://dallas.craigslist.org/dal/bar/2865124839.html __________________ 1970 GMC SWB Under construction 1968 C10 SWB Big Window (SOLD) 1999 GMC Sierra Z71 SLT (SOLD)

02-22-2012, 11:46 PM	#2
71swb4x4 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Brookings, SD Posts: 10,497	Re: Need Some advice!!! Pass. Was his mom authorized to sell it? If not the truck may be reported stolen when the son gets back and you will be out money and your new truck. Maybe that's not even the real story. If it was that "easy" to get the title hits guy would have already done it. There are a lot of 67-72 trucks out there, keep looking. If you really want it I would pay about 25% of what it would be worth with a title. You are taking a huge chance, both financially and possibly legally if the po-po decide that you were the one that stole it. __________________ Some people are like slinkies, they aren't good for anything, but you can't help but smile when you see one tumble down the stairs.

02-22-2012, 11:50 PM	#3
c10concepts Registered User Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Haslet,Texas Posts: 74	Re: Need Some advice!!! Yeah its a little fishy he said she was on the title but something with the power of attorney was not correct... Don't think I wanna go through all that hassle and it be stolen.. But I work at a auto auction and work with the DMV so i can have it checked but even if it comes up clean Im still iffy... __________________ 1970 GMC SWB Under construction 1968 C10 SWB Big Window (SOLD) 1999 GMC Sierra Z71 SLT (SOLD)

02-23-2012, 02:57 AM	#4
70cst Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: New Madison, Ohio Posts: 21,373	Re: Need Some advice!!! Run c10concepts run... Agreed sounds fishy to me and why gamble. JMHO __________________ A husband can be right...or...A husband can be happy. 67-72 Chevy and GMC Trucks...The Classic Truck for the Classic Folk. 1970 CST Two tone green, 402BB, 400 Automatic, Tach, Buckets, AC, AM-FM, Tilt, GM CB, GM 8 Tract, LWB, etc JOHN 17:3...The better side of "LIFE" Remember: Everyday is a good day...Some are just gooder!

02-23-2012, 06:31 AM	#5
MikeyMan Registered User Join Date: May 2008 Location: S.W. Chicago, IL. Posts: 317	Re: Need Some advice!!! Huge Red Flag! Do yourself a favor and pass on this shady deal. Seller looking to take all finds of funky trades? You'll lose your money, lose the truck, and end up with lawyer's fees.

02-23-2012, 09:01 AM	#6
70chevytruck Registered User Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Buda, Texas Posts: 865	Re: Need Some advice!!! Bought a $500 truck from a guy with California plates...NO TITLE. Called California and made sure it wasn't stolen, Checked in Texas also. Went to get a bonded title..they base the truck price on NADA plus 25%. Ended up costing me $350 in taxes because the NADA on these trucks is around $13000 average. Pretty ridiculous. Doesn't take a year just a month or so. The way I understand it if I put a bunch of money into a $500 truck and eventually sell it the bond covers the truck in case of a bad title. Not impossible just not a lot of fun. Figured for $500 I couldn't go wrong. Here is a pic of what I bought for $500. Big Block, A/C, P/S, P/B Rebuilt motor. Call TXDOT and find out what the charge would be...on a $4K truck it could be $800 plus for a title. I would make him get a title for it first for that kind of money. Otherwise walk. __________________ 70chevytruck Last edited by 70chevytruck; 02-23-2012 at 09:17 AM.

02-23-2012, 09:37 AM	#7
RenoKeene Florida Edition Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Fruitland Park, FL Posts: 4,029	Re: Need Some advice!!! Doesn't look like 4k even with a title....... __________________ 70 GMC Short Stepside "Rose"-An American Beauty: Factory 402/TH400, AM/FM, AC, Tilt, Tach, Buckets, Posi, PS, PB, 3-5 Drop, Complete Resto-Rod 67 C-20 Slant Back Wrecker "Mad Max" 67 C-10 Ratrod "Step-N-Wolf" 71 Serro Scotty Sportsman camper "Scotty" 97 LT1 Z28 "The Hornet" Link to more pics of "Rose" http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/a...p?albumid=1684 Check out my "Cheap Tricks" thread and add to it if you can, lots of good info there. http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=489394

02-23-2012, 12:33 PM	#8
c10concepts Registered User Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Haslet,Texas Posts: 74	Re: Need Some advice!!! Well I did negotiate him down but I am still going to check the vin its free for me to check at my job... I'll probably end up passing on it just cause of my gut feeling and what you guys and my friends say.... Thanks Posted via Mobile Device __________________ 1970 GMC SWB Under construction 1968 C10 SWB Big Window (SOLD) 1999 GMC Sierra Z71 SLT (SOLD)

02-23-2012, 12:49 PM	#10
c10concepts Registered User Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Haslet,Texas Posts: 74	Re: Need Some advice!!! True Jwall it is and just thinking about what u have to do just to get the title is not a great feeling... Imma keep looking found a couple but they are rollers...looks like that's the route I'm going to have to go... Posted via Mobile Device __________________ 1970 GMC SWB Under construction 1968 C10 SWB Big Window (SOLD) 1999 GMC Sierra Z71 SLT (SOLD)

02-23-2012, 12:57 PM	#11
Stocker 20' Daredevil (Ret) Join Date: May 2003 Location: Jefferson State Posts: 13,728	Re: Need Some advice!!! I agree with the others.... too many red flags as to the title. Even if the Iraq story is legit, sounds like he is stateside now so he should be able to get the title if he wants to sell it to you. Otherwise it could turn into a huge headache for you. __________________ - Mike - 1972 K20 LWB 350/350/205 RIP El Jay

02-23-2012, 07:32 PM	#12
c10concepts Registered User Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Haslet,Texas Posts: 74	Re: Need Some advice!!! Yeah I am going to pass I found another one that has a clear title its a step side but that can easily be changed... __________________ 1970 GMC SWB Under construction 1968 C10 SWB Big Window (SOLD) 1999 GMC Sierra Z71 SLT (SOLD)

02-23-2012, 07:51 PM	#13
jocko Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Godley, TX Posts: 17,975	Re: Need Some advice!!! Does not run does not = $4K. Steer away from questionable titles, not worth the worry to sort it out, and you could get screwed. I have been anyway. There are other fish in the sea, keep fishin.

02-24-2012, 03:32 PM	#14
c10concepts Registered User Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Haslet,Texas Posts: 74	Re: Need Some advice!!! Yeah I passed on it... Looking at a 69 SWB stepside monday... __________________ 1970 GMC SWB Under construction 1968 C10 SWB Big Window (SOLD) 1999 GMC Sierra Z71 SLT (SOLD)

02-24-2012, 03:44 PM	#15
dirtyd_nd Registered User Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: JACKSONVILLE, FL Posts: 112	Re: Need Some advice!!! If you are still interested in the truck and he is in the military have him get a new POA general or specific. It free for all of us in the military. It just has to be signed by any O-4 or above or the legal officer. He can then fax or email it to his mom. Dale

02-24-2012, 04:54 PM	#16
buz48 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Paragould Ar. Posts: 41	Re: Need Some advice!!! RUN RUN!!!! Like your hairs on fire



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02-25-2012, 12:42 AM	#17
R.L. Registered User Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Mobile, Al. Posts: 687	Re: Need Some advice!!! Keep looking you can find another with good paperwork. They'll be pleanty of things to spend that money on. The title may be the very reason there willing to sell that truck.

02-26-2012, 03:29 AM	#18
c10concepts Registered User Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Haslet,Texas Posts: 74	Re: Need Some advice!!! Thanks I'm going to look at a friends 71 swb tomorrow hopefully I can get it... Posted via Mobile Device __________________ 1970 GMC SWB Under construction 1968 C10 SWB Big Window (SOLD) 1999 GMC Sierra Z71 SLT (SOLD)

02-27-2012, 01:49 AM	#19
c10concepts Registered User Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Haslet,Texas Posts: 74	Re: Need Some advice!!! Well I got her 71 GMC SWB little rust needs some body work but runs and drives... With a clean title lol just needs tags and inspection to be on the road and that will be solved a.s.a.p. __________________ 1970 GMC SWB Under construction 1968 C10 SWB Big Window (SOLD) 1999 GMC Sierra Z71 SLT (SOLD)

02-27-2012, 02:17 AM	#20
YBNORML Registered User Join Date: May 2010 Location: Edmonton, Alberta Posts: 3,844	Re: Need Some advice!!! Congrats! looks like a good start. __________________ --------------------------------------------------------------- Jason. 68’ GMC shortbox https://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/...d.php?t=794201 72' 2WD Blazer http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=425385 67' LongBox C-10 http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=691845 InstaGram ybnorml67

02-27-2012, 09:49 AM	#21
c10concepts Registered User Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Haslet,Texas Posts: 74	Re: Need Some advice!!! Thanks yeah ready to get her going.... Posted via Mobile Device __________________ 1970 GMC SWB Under construction 1968 C10 SWB Big Window (SOLD) 1999 GMC Sierra Z71 SLT (SOLD)

02-27-2012, 12:18 PM	#22
RenoKeene Florida Edition Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Fruitland Park, FL Posts: 4,029	Re: Need Some advice!!! Good job, glad you waited. That will make a good one, congrats! __________________ 70 GMC Short Stepside "Rose"-An American Beauty: Factory 402/TH400, AM/FM, AC, Tilt, Tach, Buckets, Posi, PS, PB, 3-5 Drop, Complete Resto-Rod 67 C-20 Slant Back Wrecker "Mad Max" 67 C-10 Ratrod "Step-N-Wolf" 71 Serro Scotty Sportsman camper "Scotty" 97 LT1 Z28 "The Hornet" Link to more pics of "Rose" http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/a...p?albumid=1684 Check out my "Cheap Tricks" thread and add to it if you can, lots of good info there. http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=489394

02-27-2012, 02:50 PM	#23
c10concepts Registered User Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Haslet,Texas Posts: 74	Re: Need Some advice!!! Yeah it will be... He's getting it road worthy for me.. Got a good deal on it... Posted via Mobile Device __________________ 1970 GMC SWB Under construction 1968 C10 SWB Big Window (SOLD) 1999 GMC Sierra Z71 SLT (SOLD)

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