The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network







Register or Log In To remove these advertisements.

Go Back   The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network > General Truck Forums > Racing and high performance (trucks haulin more than hay)

Web 67-72chevytrucks.com


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 04-10-2012, 07:19 PM   #1
INSIDIOUS '86
Registered User
 
INSIDIOUS '86's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: washington
Posts: 4,178
Quest for 11.50

Want to get my 86 shortie to 11.5 in the 1/4 I'm Planning on an overdrive 200r4 and some 373 gears with a locker and a 3000 stall converter with lockup and m&h race master 275 16s drag radials. My engine is putting out about 410 hp right now. I have a 5-7 drop on suspension and a race weight fiberglass cowl hood on the way.

What do you guys think it will take to pull up to 11.5?
Haven't got any timed runs yet till the new trans is back in
Posted via Mobile Device
__________________
377 sbc thumpr cam autogear m23 muncie 3:73 Detroit trutrac
3''spintech prostreet mufflers xpipe 1 3/4 headers
build thread !http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=577217
Iroc gauge threadhttp://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=554511
INSIDIOUS '86 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-10-2012, 09:49 PM   #2
hotrod 80
mini truck racer
 
hotrod 80's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Baytown , texas
Posts: 3,010
Re: Quest for 11.50

What does it run now ? Post the last time slip for us .
__________________
1949 5-window
1969 Camaro
1976 Chevy Luv yellow
1978 Chevy Luv Blue
1976 Chevy Luv Black
1979 Firebird Flooded in Harvey
1999 F350 Dually
2005 GMC Sierra 4.8 RCSB
2014 Explorer (wifes)

My build :http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=399148

Build #2: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=653583
hotrod 80 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-11-2012, 01:00 AM   #3
INSIDIOUS '86
Registered User
 
INSIDIOUS '86's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: washington
Posts: 4,178
Re: Quest for 11.50

Runs 13.65 with 295/50/16 bf Goodrich and a 308 open diff with th350 no stall just a shift kit. And had a 3-4 drop.
Posted via Mobile Device

Forgot this was with no tailgate or hood
__________________
377 sbc thumpr cam autogear m23 muncie 3:73 Detroit trutrac
3''spintech prostreet mufflers xpipe 1 3/4 headers
build thread !http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=577217
Iroc gauge threadhttp://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=554511
INSIDIOUS '86 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-11-2012, 01:07 AM   #4
69GMC910
MOTORHEAD!
 
69GMC910's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2000
Location: Devon AB, Canada
Posts: 849
Re: Quest for 11.50

I would guess that your modifications will put you in the 12.8 range.
__________________
82 GMC High Sierra
VortecPro 496
12 Bolt, 3.42's

AFR 265
Holley 850
Performer RPM Air Gap
Hooker 2455's
TCI Turbo 400 Super Street Fighter
TRRC 12 Bolt
Eaton Posi
Mark Williams Axles
Cal-Tracs
Hoosier 30x10.5 Radial Slick
Full weight long box pickup
Current best- 11.33@117mph
69GMC910 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-11-2012, 03:33 AM   #5
INSIDIOUS '86
Registered User
 
INSIDIOUS '86's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: washington
Posts: 4,178
Re: Quest for 11.50

So adding gears stall and less weight Get me halfway so then I guess more hp is in order? If I add about 90hp to my setup and lose wight with aluminum components( heads water pump and mini starter) how much closer would you say?
Posted via Mobile Device
__________________
377 sbc thumpr cam autogear m23 muncie 3:73 Detroit trutrac
3''spintech prostreet mufflers xpipe 1 3/4 headers
build thread !http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=577217
Iroc gauge threadhttp://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=554511
INSIDIOUS '86 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-11-2012, 07:00 AM   #6
djracer
Registered User
 
djracer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: Wetumpka, Al, U.S.
Posts: 8,891
Re: Quest for 11.50

I'd say add Cal Trac Bars and 100 to 150 shot of nitrous. I would run Hoosier or Mickey Thompson Drag radials.

Good Luck!
__________________
Kevin

Special Thanks to All who have helped on the TRUCK!

My Pass Time Show http://s129.photobucket.com/albums/p...Chapter1-0.mp4

So Far my best Times are:

Motor only:
6.44 1/8 @ 104.13
10.39 1/4 @ 125.83

Nitrous Times:
5.785 1/8 @ 118.65 with a 1.336 60ft
9.168 1/4 @ 142.58 with a 250 shot dead out of the hole!
djracer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-11-2012, 11:53 AM   #7
Super73
Registered User
 
Super73's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Bay Area, Ca
Posts: 2,841
Re: Quest for 11.50

At 3,525lbs (me in the truck) and 449rwhp (unlocked converter 410rwhp) I went 11.45 with the following drivetrain. 4L80E, 4,500rpm converter, 4.56 gear, 315/60/15 mt et drag radial. It probably would have went a little faster with a 26" or 28" tall tire as I was geared more for the bottle.
Posted via Mobile Device
__________________
------Motor---------------Bottle
60'---1.53---------------1.41
1/8---6.58 @ 105.92----5.87 @ 118.41
1/4---10.38 @ 126.97----9.24 @ 142.49
Super73 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-11-2012, 12:06 PM   #8
69GMC910
MOTORHEAD!
 
69GMC910's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2000
Location: Devon AB, Canada
Posts: 849
Re: Quest for 11.50

To be clear, is your engine putting out 410hp, or is that rwhp?
Posted via Mobile Device
__________________
82 GMC High Sierra
VortecPro 496
12 Bolt, 3.42's

AFR 265
Holley 850
Performer RPM Air Gap
Hooker 2455's
TCI Turbo 400 Super Street Fighter
TRRC 12 Bolt
Eaton Posi
Mark Williams Axles
Cal-Tracs
Hoosier 30x10.5 Radial Slick
Full weight long box pickup
Current best- 11.33@117mph
69GMC910 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-11-2012, 12:25 PM   #9
Super73
Registered User
 
Super73's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Bay Area, Ca
Posts: 2,841
Re: Quest for 11.50

On a chassis dyno with the converter locked it made 449rwhp. With the converter unlocked it made 410rwhp. I am not sure if a 200r4 has a locking converter. That is why I posted both numbers so it could be compared apples to apples.
__________________
------Motor---------------Bottle
60'---1.53---------------1.41
1/8---6.58 @ 105.92----5.87 @ 118.41
1/4---10.38 @ 126.97----9.24 @ 142.49
Super73 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-11-2012, 01:44 PM   #10
INSIDIOUS '86
Registered User
 
INSIDIOUS '86's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: washington
Posts: 4,178
Re: Quest for 11.50

Quote:
Originally Posted by 69GMC910 View Post
To be clear, is your engine putting out 410hp, or is that rwhp?
Posted via Mobile Device
My engine is 410 hp to the flywheel.
And yes the 2004r is a lockup trans too. Same as the 700r4 just without the silly first gear ratio.

I will absolutely not run my engine on a bottle.
Posted via Mobile Device
__________________
377 sbc thumpr cam autogear m23 muncie 3:73 Detroit trutrac
3''spintech prostreet mufflers xpipe 1 3/4 headers
build thread !http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=577217
Iroc gauge threadhttp://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=554511
INSIDIOUS '86 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-11-2012, 03:06 PM   #11
T Smith
Registered User
 
T Smith's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Vicksburg, Mississippi
Posts: 567
Re: Quest for 11.50

If the engine in your sig is the engine you're running, you can gain quite a bit by ditching that Thumper camshaft, and you dang sure ain't making no power at 8 grand with that setup, you're lucky it's still in one piece.
T Smith is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-11-2012, 05:59 PM   #12
hotrod 80
mini truck racer
 
hotrod 80's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Baytown , texas
Posts: 3,010
Re: Quest for 11.50

Quote:
Originally Posted by INSIDIOUS '86 View Post
Runs 13.65 with 295/50/16 bf Goodrich and a 308 open diff with th350 no stall just a shift kit. And had a 3-4 drop.
Posted via Mobile Device

Forgot this was with no tailgate or hood
A gear and posi is where i would start along with a set of tires . As stated above try shifting it sooner . If you feel it pull again when you shifted you shifted to late .
__________________
1949 5-window
1969 Camaro
1976 Chevy Luv yellow
1978 Chevy Luv Blue
1976 Chevy Luv Black
1979 Firebird Flooded in Harvey
1999 F350 Dually
2005 GMC Sierra 4.8 RCSB
2014 Explorer (wifes)

My build :http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=399148

Build #2: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=653583
hotrod 80 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-12-2012, 01:01 AM   #13
INSIDIOUS '86
Registered User
 
INSIDIOUS '86's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: washington
Posts: 4,178
Re: Quest for 11.50

Quote:
Originally Posted by T Smith View Post
If the engine in your sig is the engine you're running, you can gain quite a bit by ditching that Thumper camshaft, and you dang sure ain't making no power at 8 grand with that setup, you're lucky it's still in one piece.
Like I said I'm going with heavy breathing heads and a solid cam. This thumper does do rather good for the street though and is decent on power

As for the 8k rpm. I built the valve train to take the abuse. An was very meticulous about my rotating assembly. Needless to say the cam doesn't support past 5800 rpm an I have a 6100rpm rev limit.
Posted via Mobile Device
__________________
377 sbc thumpr cam autogear m23 muncie 3:73 Detroit trutrac
3''spintech prostreet mufflers xpipe 1 3/4 headers
build thread !http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=577217
Iroc gauge threadhttp://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=554511
INSIDIOUS '86 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-12-2012, 07:35 AM   #14
T Smith
Registered User
 
T Smith's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Vicksburg, Mississippi
Posts: 567
Re: Quest for 11.50

Quote:
Originally Posted by INSIDIOUS '86 View Post
Like I said I'm going with heavy breathing heads and a solid cam. This thumper does do rather good for the street though and is decent on power

Posted via Mobile Device
I don't see where you said that, just the mention of aluminum heads for the weight loss.
T Smith is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-12-2012, 11:14 AM   #15
INSIDIOUS '86
Registered User
 
INSIDIOUS '86's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: washington
Posts: 4,178
Re: Quest for 11.50

Oh thought I had that in the original post. Haha forgot to add that.
Posted via Mobile Device
__________________
377 sbc thumpr cam autogear m23 muncie 3:73 Detroit trutrac
3''spintech prostreet mufflers xpipe 1 3/4 headers
build thread !http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=577217
Iroc gauge threadhttp://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=554511
INSIDIOUS '86 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 04:15 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Copyright 1997-2022 67-72chevytrucks.com