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2tankin79 · 09-20-2003, 01:25 AM

ok, i've got 4'' of drop in the rear using belltech's hanger kit. what can i add to this to get a 6'' drop? or should i just go ahead and take them off, and put on a flip kit, which would give me 6'' right there? i've got 2'' spindles in the front now, and i'm gonna buy some 2'' springs which will put me at 4'' in the front, and now i just need to figure out what to do in the rear. want a 4/6

Also, is it possible to mix and match like western chassis with belltech, lets say belltech spindles, with western chassis springs..

and.. would there be much NOTICEABLE difference in 4'' and 4 1/2'' in the front?

thanks, JEff

**swervin ervin** · 09-20-2003, 01:45 AM

A 4" drop shackle and hanger kit will only go 4", nothing you can do to that. You could change leaf springs and leave the shackle and hanger kit, but this is mucho money. I would put the stock hanger back on and install a flip kit and c-notch. Put the shackles in the shortest hole for 6" of drop. You wouldn't exactly have to put a c-notch, but it will hit on dips. With a 6" drop using a flip kit and shackles, you end up with about 2-3/4" between axle and frame.

2tankin79 · 09-20-2003, 11:19 AM

it doesnt look like i can adjust my shackles at all..

also, can i use the belltech spindles with the western chassis front springs?

What would happen if i left the shackles and hangers just how they are, and installed the flip kit?

thanks, JEff

**swervin ervin** · 09-20-2003, 12:38 PM

You don't have two holes in your shackles? You do have a Belltech hanger and shackle kit?

Yes, you can use any spring. They are independent of the spindle.

If you add a flip kit like you have it now, my figures would make it 9" of drop. To use a flip kit, and end up with 6", you need to put the stock hanger back on and use a 2" shackle. If the shackles you have now are 2" longer than stock, you are OK.

boataddict26 · 09-20-2003, 04:06 PM

If you decide to sell your hanger kit, I am interested.
Michael

rays68 · 09-20-2003, 04:20 PM

hey 2tankin79 I have a rear belltech 6in drop flip kit for a 73-87 blazer or jimmy part number is 6852 that I bought off of ebay about 2 weeks ago they look pretty new you can get an idea what they look like on zmotive.com if interested let me know I will try to send you some pics you can have them for what I paid for them.

2tankin79 · 09-20-2003, 11:23 PM

I looked at my shackles tonight, and i do have 2 holes. so, what i'm gonna do is go to performancesuspension.com and get a 5'' rear flip kit for $59.95, and front springs for $104.95. These are the absolute cheapest prices i could find, and dont seem that expensive at all. There for, i am going to do what you (swervin) told me to do, and go with the stock hanger and put a flip kit on it. The C-notch will come later, seein as how i drive it very rarely anyhow. what i will do is get the stock hangers, flip kit, and springs, then lower the shackles down to the 1 inch hole, put the stock hangers on, then the flip kit. 6'' of drop, correct?

then: my belltech 2'' spindles that i have now, and a pair of 2'' western chassis springs. woo, its all commin together now

thanks for all your help..

boataddict26:
check your pm's

**swervin ervin** · 09-21-2003, 12:25 AM

Sounds like a plan to me. I guess you know, but don't forget to get the front end realigned by a very good alignment shop.

2tankin79 · 09-24-2003, 05:49 PM

performance suspension says i will have to buy a c-notch, and lowered shocks.. is this true? i'm not gonna buy the c-notch right now, but i will later.. i dont drive it enough right now to worry about it... but the shocks? do i actually have to have these?

thanks, Jeff

**swervin ervin** · 09-24-2003, 05:54 PM

I don't guess you would have to have them, but the stock shocks won't work. So, yes, you do need them.

2tankin79 · 09-24-2003, 05:56 PM

well, already being lowered 2/4, i didnt install this, i bought the truck with it, could they have used the stock shocks? or would they have had to buy new shocks when they lowered it?

thanks, Jeff

**N2TRUX** · 09-24-2003, 06:26 PM

2tankin79 ,
My guess is the truck already has shorter shocks. If it doesn't have shock extenders bolted to the bottom of the rear shock hangers, the PO probably put shorter shocks on.

Like Mike said, you don't "have to" put the C-notch on right now, but you may as well. Sooner or later you are going to want it on. If you know a "good" welder, they can build a notch, and box the frame for about the same money as a bolt in notch...

2tankin79 · 09-26-2003, 03:49 PM

how would i tell if it has shock extenders or not?

thanks, Jeff

**N2TRUX** · 09-26-2003, 04:50 PM

On the rear, you can look under and see them. They will be brackets that bolt to the bottom om the stock shock mount. "extend" it. This allows a longer shock to be used on a lowered truck, and gets your shock angle back into the proper perspective...

09-20-2003, 01:25 AM	#1
2tankin79 Registered User Join Date: May 2003 Location: indiana Posts: 288	lowering ok, i've got 4'' of drop in the rear using belltech's hanger kit. what can i add to this to get a 6'' drop? or should i just go ahead and take them off, and put on a flip kit, which would give me 6'' right there? i've got 2'' spindles in the front now, and i'm gonna buy some 2'' springs which will put me at 4'' in the front, and now i just need to figure out what to do in the rear. want a 4/6 Also, is it possible to mix and match like western chassis with belltech, lets say belltech spindles, with western chassis springs.. and.. would there be much NOTICEABLE difference in 4'' and 4 1/2'' in the front? thanks, JEff Last edited by 2tankin79; 09-20-2003 at 01:30 AM.

09-20-2003, 01:45 AM	#2
swervin ervin You get what you pay for Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Cherryville, NC Posts: 4,798	A 4" drop shackle and hanger kit will only go 4", nothing you can do to that. You could change leaf springs and leave the shackle and hanger kit, but this is mucho money. I would put the stock hanger back on and install a flip kit and c-notch. Put the shackles in the shortest hole for 6" of drop. You wouldn't exactly have to put a c-notch, but it will hit on dips. With a 6" drop using a flip kit and shackles, you end up with about 2-3/4" between axle and frame. __________________ Mike 1985 Chevy C-10

09-20-2003, 04:06 PM	#5
boataddict26 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: North Central Florida Posts: 726	If you decide to sell your hanger kit, I am interested. Michael __________________ 1978 Chevy C10 Currently under resto. 350 Getting face lift. .060, JEpistons, Modify heads. More will come with money.

09-20-2003, 04:20 PM	#6
rays68 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Redondo Beach CA Posts: 131	flip kit hey 2tankin79 I have a rear belltech 6in drop flip kit for a 73-87 blazer or jimmy part number is 6852 that I bought off of ebay about 2 weeks ago they look pretty new you can get an idea what they look like on zmotive.com if interested let me know I will try to send you some pics you can have them for what I paid for them.

09-24-2003, 05:54 PM	#10
swervin ervin You get what you pay for Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Cherryville, NC Posts: 4,798	I don't guess you would have to have them, but the stock shocks won't work. So, yes, you do need them. __________________ Mike 1985 Chevy C-10

09-20-2003, 11:19 AM	#3
2tankin79 Registered User Join Date: May 2003 Location: indiana Posts: 288	it doesnt look like i can adjust my shackles at all.. also, can i use the belltech spindles with the western chassis front springs? What would happen if i left the shackles and hangers just how they are, and installed the flip kit? thanks, JEff

09-20-2003, 12:38 PM	#4
swervin ervin You get what you pay for Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Cherryville, NC Posts: 4,798	You don't have two holes in your shackles? You do have a Belltech hanger and shackle kit? Yes, you can use any spring. They are independent of the spindle. If you add a flip kit like you have it now, my figures would make it 9" of drop. To use a flip kit, and end up with 6", you need to put the stock hanger back on and use a 2" shackle. If the shackles you have now are 2" longer than stock, you are OK.

09-20-2003, 11:23 PM	#7
2tankin79 Registered User Join Date: May 2003 Location: indiana Posts: 288	I looked at my shackles tonight, and i do have 2 holes. so, what i'm gonna do is go to performancesuspension.com and get a 5'' rear flip kit for $59.95, and front springs for $104.95. These are the absolute cheapest prices i could find, and dont seem that expensive at all. There for, i am going to do what you (swervin) told me to do, and go with the stock hanger and put a flip kit on it. The C-notch will come later, seein as how i drive it very rarely anyhow. what i will do is get the stock hangers, flip kit, and springs, then lower the shackles down to the 1 inch hole, put the stock hangers on, then the flip kit. 6'' of drop, correct? then: my belltech 2'' spindles that i have now, and a pair of 2'' western chassis springs. woo, its all commin together now thanks for all your help.. boataddict26: check your pm's

09-21-2003, 12:25 AM	#8
swervin ervin You get what you pay for Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Cherryville, NC Posts: 4,798	Sounds like a plan to me. I guess you know, but don't forget to get the front end realigned by a very good alignment shop.

09-24-2003, 05:49 PM	#9
2tankin79 Registered User Join Date: May 2003 Location: indiana Posts: 288	performance suspension says i will have to buy a c-notch, and lowered shocks.. is this true? i'm not gonna buy the c-notch right now, but i will later.. i dont drive it enough right now to worry about it... but the shocks? do i actually have to have these? thanks, Jeff

09-24-2003, 05:56 PM	#11
2tankin79 Registered User Join Date: May 2003 Location: indiana Posts: 288	well, already being lowered 2/4, i didnt install this, i bought the truck with it, could they have used the stock shocks? or would they have had to buy new shocks when they lowered it? thanks, Jeff

09-24-2003, 06:26 PM	#12
N2TRUX Happy to be here Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: Cypress, TX Posts: 39,021	2tankin79 , My guess is the truck already has shorter shocks. If it doesn't have shock extenders bolted to the bottom of the rear shock hangers, the PO probably put shorter shocks on. Like Mike said, you don't "have to" put the C-notch on right now, but you may as well. Sooner or later you are going to want it on. If you know a "good" welder, they can build a notch, and box the frame for about the same money as a bolt in notch... __________________ Follow me on Facebook and Instagram @N2trux.com Articles- "Jake" the 84 to 74 crewcab "Elwood" the77_Remix 85 GMC Sierra "Scarlett" "Refining Sierra"

09-26-2003, 03:49 PM	#13
2tankin79 Registered User Join Date: May 2003 Location: indiana Posts: 288	how would i tell if it has shock extenders or not? thanks, Jeff

09-26-2003, 04:50 PM	#14
N2TRUX Happy to be here Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: Cypress, TX Posts: 39,021	On the rear, you can look under and see them. They will be brackets that bolt to the bottom om the stock shock mount. "extend" it. This allows a longer shock to be used on a lowered truck, and gets your shock angle back into the proper perspective...



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