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thirdstreettito · 06-22-2012, 11:36 AM

Do it. Ignore the fuel system and build the rest. Tell me what you'd do. One day I'd like to put it in a 81-87 C30 Reg cab just for the hell of it.

El Campo · 06-22-2012, 12:06 PM

http://www.carcraft.com/techarticles...d/viewall.html

Car Craft already did it and made 707 Hp for $6700. It could probably done for cheaper than that too.

thirdstreettito · 06-22-2012, 02:40 PM

Thanks! More input appreciated too

*C-10 simplex* · 06-22-2012, 08:07 PM

If big blocks come with forged cranks then i would just add nos fogger system for about $900.

thirdstreettito · 06-22-2012, 11:20 PM

Lol I should've mentioned, no nitrous.

thirdstreettito · 06-24-2012, 02:23 PM

Ttt

mightymouse · 06-24-2012, 04:06 PM

i didnt think there was a budget 600 hp motor of any kind.......jw

*C-10 simplex* · 06-25-2012, 04:52 PM

What is the budget limit?

BossHogg69 · 06-26-2012, 12:30 PM

Here's what I did - and if it doesn't hit 600hp, it will at least scare it, and I tried to be budget conscious in choosing parts which is usually not in my nature...

Ported Edelbrock #61459 Marine heads (used off eBay for $1000), I had them flow benched so I could order a custom cam - 331 cfm intake/250 cfm ex @ .600" lift. chambers cc'd @ 109. Heads came with slightly used Crower springs, Comp pushrods, & Crane aluminum roller rockers and ARP head bolts.

Traded some parts for a used 870cfm Holley street avenger.

New Edelbrock RPM air-gap intake & Victor Series water pump from Summit

.060" over 2 bolt '78 3/4 ton chevy truck 454 block (I already had the motor)
Stock steel crank, .010/.010, resized stock rods ARP studs in block, ARP bolts in the rods. Decked block, set pistons .005" in the hole.

SRP forged small dome pistons, 10.8:1 compression with .039" head gasket.
(spent a little extra for nice forged pistons)

Custom ground hyd roller cam by Chris Straub, 245*/248* @ .050", .646" lift (spent some money for a nice cam/lifters/custom pushrods)

Cloyes Hex-A-Just Billet double roller timing set & matching Cloyes Quick Button timing cover.

DUI custom curved distributor & DUI LiveWires plug wires.

thirdstreettito · 06-26-2012, 09:52 PM

Nice! About how much did that hit your wallet?

And guys, I basically mean the cheapest way to hit 600hp.

djracer · 06-27-2012, 09:13 AM

Bosshogg's setup looks pretty solid.

I hope to crank my son's truck this weekend and it won't be quite that strong but very solid on a budget. 781 open chamber oval ports over a stock type closed chamber dome. I am not a big fan of a hyd cam but it came with the motor. It has a performer rpm cam, lifters and intake with a 650 double pumper. Backed up with a built turbo 400 and a narrowed 9 inch.

BossHogg69 · 06-27-2012, 10:26 AM

Mine was just a tick over $6k, with the machine work and assembly. Had I just gotten it machined and screwed it together myself, I could've save a couple hundred bucks, but I don't claim to be an engine builder and didn't care to experiment on this one. I'm sure it can be done for cheaper, but I wanted a custom roller cam to really take advantage of the heads and get a really wide powerband.

69GMC910 · 06-27-2012, 02:17 PM

http://www.vortecproperformance.com/...binations.html
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thirdstreettito · 06-27-2012, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by 69GMC910

http://www.vortecproperformance.com/...binations.html
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Are those prices for real!??

That's practically free compared to other companies. Hmm, probably buying one of those istead of building.

69GMC910 · 06-27-2012, 03:52 PM

Yes, i have a 707hp AFR headed 496. Pump gas 9.9 CR, small hyd roller... Was under $9000 when I bought it. The AFR heads up the price quite a bit over the cast heads. I have yet to install mine, but I can already guarantee I will be a return customer!
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BossHogg69 · 06-27-2012, 06:26 PM

thirdstreettito - check out www.chevelles.com in the 'performance' section. 'Vortecpro' is Mark Jones over there (same person 69GMC910 ordered his motor from). Tons of positive feedback on his engines there. Also lots of other good Big Block advice on combos, parts and what not.

*C-10 simplex* · 07-16-2012, 11:17 PM

Never mind---i just re-read no nitrous.

06-22-2012, 11:36 AM	#1
thirdstreettito Resident of Here Join Date: May 2008 Location: Wesley Chapel, FL, USA Posts: 7,716	600HP BBC Budget Build Do it. Ignore the fuel system and build the rest. Tell me what you'd do. One day I'd like to put it in a 81-87 C30 Reg cab just for the hell of it. __________________ ~Bradley~ 2004 Black GTO LS2/T56 too much to list Miss having a truck

06-22-2012, 12:06 PM	#2
El Campo Registered User Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: El Campo, Tx Posts: 1,246	Re: 600HP BBC Budget Build http://www.carcraft.com/techarticles...d/viewall.html Car Craft already did it and made 707 Hp for $6700. It could probably done for cheaper than that too. __________________ 72 Chevy blue LWB, 99% original Oklahoma truck, 28,000 miles 72 Chevy SWB: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=486626 (Attempt/Mistake #2) 2003 Harley Davidson Dyna Superglide with 2007 Street Bob front end 2000 Ford F350 Powerstroke 4WD CCLB, 310,000 miles running great (STOLEN St. Patricks Day 2014 AND NEVER RECOVERED) 2002 Ford F250 Powerstroke 4WD CCLB (To replace stolen one) Hook em Horns!!!

06-22-2012, 02:40 PM	#3
thirdstreettito Resident of Here Join Date: May 2008 Location: Wesley Chapel, FL, USA Posts: 7,716	Re: 600HP BBC Budget Build Thanks! More input appreciated too __________________ ~Bradley~ 2004 Black GTO LS2/T56 too much to list Miss having a truck

06-22-2012, 08:07 PM	#4
C-10 simplex Account Suspended Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: indisclosed Posts: 1,515	Re: 600HP BBC Budget Build If big blocks come with forged cranks then i would just add nos fogger system for about $900.

06-22-2012, 11:20 PM	#5
thirdstreettito Resident of Here Join Date: May 2008 Location: Wesley Chapel, FL, USA Posts: 7,716	Re: 600HP BBC Budget Build Lol I should've mentioned, no nitrous. __________________ ~Bradley~ 2004 Black GTO LS2/T56 too much to list Miss having a truck

06-24-2012, 02:23 PM	#6
thirdstreettito Resident of Here Join Date: May 2008 Location: Wesley Chapel, FL, USA Posts: 7,716	Re: 600HP BBC Budget Build Ttt __________________ ~Bradley~ 2004 Black GTO LS2/T56 too much to list Miss having a truck

06-24-2012, 04:06 PM	#7
mightymouse Registered User Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Crowley TX Posts: 979	Re: 600HP BBC Budget Build i didnt think there was a budget 600 hp motor of any kind.......jw

06-25-2012, 04:52 PM	#8
C-10 simplex Account Suspended Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: indisclosed Posts: 1,515	Re: 600HP BBC Budget Build What is the budget limit?

06-26-2012, 12:30 PM	#9
BossHogg69 motor exploder Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 2,346	Re: 600HP BBC Budget Build Here's what I did - and if it doesn't hit 600hp, it will at least scare it, and I tried to be budget conscious in choosing parts which is usually not in my nature... Ported Edelbrock #61459 Marine heads (used off eBay for $1000), I had them flow benched so I could order a custom cam - 331 cfm intake/250 cfm ex @ .600" lift. chambers cc'd @ 109. Heads came with slightly used Crower springs, Comp pushrods, & Crane aluminum roller rockers and ARP head bolts. Traded some parts for a used 870cfm Holley street avenger. New Edelbrock RPM air-gap intake & Victor Series water pump from Summit .060" over 2 bolt '78 3/4 ton chevy truck 454 block (I already had the motor) Stock steel crank, .010/.010, resized stock rods ARP studs in block, ARP bolts in the rods. Decked block, set pistons .005" in the hole. SRP forged small dome pistons, 10.8:1 compression with .039" head gasket. (spent a little extra for nice forged pistons) Custom ground hyd roller cam by Chris Straub, 245/248 @ .050", .646" lift (spent some money for a nice cam/lifters/custom pushrods) Cloyes Hex-A-Just Billet double roller timing set & matching Cloyes Quick Button timing cover. DUI custom curved distributor & DUI LiveWires plug wires. Attached Images __________________ Adam 1969 Chevy CST/10 stepside, DART Big M/TREMEC Magnum Extreme/3.73's w/Detroit Truetrac 1965 Chevy Bel Air Wagon (daily driver), 327/TH350,10 bolt w/3.08's 1961 Chevy Bel Air Sport Coupe, ZZ454/M21/9" rear w/3.50's & Detroit Truetrac 2005 GMC 1500 ccsb 2wd, 6.0L/4L65e/3.73 G80 2006 GMC 2500HD ccsb 4x4, DMax LBZ/Allison 6spd/4.56's w/Detroit TrueTrac Use the SEARCH function on this forum - it is your friend!!

06-26-2012, 09:52 PM	#10
thirdstreettito Resident of Here Join Date: May 2008 Location: Wesley Chapel, FL, USA Posts: 7,716	Re: 600HP BBC Budget Build Nice! About how much did that hit your wallet? And guys, I basically mean the cheapest way to hit 600hp. __________________ ~Bradley~ 2004 Black GTO LS2/T56 too much to list Miss having a truck

06-27-2012, 09:13 AM	#11
djracer Registered User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Wetumpka, Al, U.S. Posts: 8,892	Re: 600HP BBC Budget Build Bosshogg's setup looks pretty solid. I hope to crank my son's truck this weekend and it won't be quite that strong but very solid on a budget. 781 open chamber oval ports over a stock type closed chamber dome. I am not a big fan of a hyd cam but it came with the motor. It has a performer rpm cam, lifters and intake with a 650 double pumper. Backed up with a built turbo 400 and a narrowed 9 inch. __________________ Kevin Special Thanks to All who have helped on the TRUCK! My Pass Time Show http://s129.photobucket.com/albums/p...Chapter1-0.mp4 So Far my best Times are: Motor only: 6.44 1/8 @ 104.13 10.39 1/4 @ 125.83 Nitrous Times: 5.785 1/8 @ 118.65 with a 1.336 60ft 9.168 1/4 @ 142.58 with a 250 shot dead out of the hole!

06-27-2012, 10:26 AM	#12
BossHogg69 motor exploder Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 2,346	Re: 600HP BBC Budget Build Mine was just a tick over $6k, with the machine work and assembly. Had I just gotten it machined and screwed it together myself, I could've save a couple hundred bucks, but I don't claim to be an engine builder and didn't care to experiment on this one. I'm sure it can be done for cheaper, but I wanted a custom roller cam to really take advantage of the heads and get a really wide powerband. __________________ Adam 1969 Chevy CST/10 stepside, DART Big M/TREMEC Magnum Extreme/3.73's w/Detroit Truetrac 1965 Chevy Bel Air Wagon (daily driver), 327/TH350,10 bolt w/3.08's 1961 Chevy Bel Air Sport Coupe, ZZ454/M21/9" rear w/3.50's & Detroit Truetrac 2005 GMC 1500 ccsb 2wd, 6.0L/4L65e/3.73 G80 2006 GMC 2500HD ccsb 4x4, DMax LBZ/Allison 6spd/4.56's w/Detroit TrueTrac Use the SEARCH function on this forum - it is your friend!!

06-27-2012, 02:17 PM	#13
69GMC910 MOTORHEAD! Join Date: May 2000 Location: Devon AB, Canada Posts: 849	Re: 600HP BBC Budget Build http://www.vortecproperformance.com/...binations.html Posted via Mobile Device __________________ 82 GMC High Sierra VortecPro 496 12 Bolt, 3.42's AFR 265 Holley 850 Performer RPM Air Gap Hooker 2455's TCI Turbo 400 Super Street Fighter TRRC 12 Bolt Eaton Posi Mark Williams Axles Cal-Tracs Hoosier 30x10.5 Radial Slick Full weight long box pickup Current best- 11.33@117mph

06-27-2012, 03:52 PM	#15
69GMC910 MOTORHEAD! Join Date: May 2000 Location: Devon AB, Canada Posts: 849	Re: 600HP BBC Budget Build Yes, i have a 707hp AFR headed 496. Pump gas 9.9 CR, small hyd roller... Was under $9000 when I bought it. The AFR heads up the price quite a bit over the cast heads. I have yet to install mine, but I can already guarantee I will be a return customer! Posted via Mobile Device __________________ 82 GMC High Sierra VortecPro 496 12 Bolt, 3.42's AFR 265 Holley 850 Performer RPM Air Gap Hooker 2455's TCI Turbo 400 Super Street Fighter TRRC 12 Bolt Eaton Posi Mark Williams Axles Cal-Tracs Hoosier 30x10.5 Radial Slick Full weight long box pickup Current best- 11.33@117mph

06-27-2012, 06:26 PM	#16
BossHogg69 motor exploder Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 2,346	Re: 600HP BBC Budget Build thirdstreettito - check out www.chevelles.com in the 'performance' section. 'Vortecpro' is Mark Jones over there (same person 69GMC910 ordered his motor from). Tons of positive feedback on his engines there. Also lots of other good Big Block advice on combos, parts and what not. __________________ Adam 1969 Chevy CST/10 stepside, DART Big M/TREMEC Magnum Extreme/3.73's w/Detroit Truetrac 1965 Chevy Bel Air Wagon (daily driver), 327/TH350,10 bolt w/3.08's 1961 Chevy Bel Air Sport Coupe, ZZ454/M21/9" rear w/3.50's & Detroit Truetrac 2005 GMC 1500 ccsb 2wd, 6.0L/4L65e/3.73 G80 2006 GMC 2500HD ccsb 4x4, DMax LBZ/Allison 6spd/4.56's w/Detroit TrueTrac Use the SEARCH function on this forum - it is your friend!!



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07-16-2012, 11:17 PM	#17
C-10 simplex Account Suspended Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: indisclosed Posts: 1,515	Re: 600HP BBC Budget Build Never mind---i just re-read no nitrous.

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