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c-tenkid · 10-04-2003, 03:23 PM

I took the cab off my 67 and moved it into my garage.What I fouund was a very bad floor.I had cut some of the rust out and replaced it from the top.I didn't know it was this bad though.

First of all there is a piece of metal that goes from the front cab mount and all the way back.I am not sure what it is called.Well this was completly rotted out.So I removed all the spot welds and took it off.Also the front passenger side cab mount was shot.I am pretty sure I can make something to work.I have a mig welder and a plasma cutter and all the metal I would ever need.I would like to keep it somewhat original looking under there though.Instead of a cobbled togother mess.

I also might be looking for a 67 cab also.This is pretty bad.I want the small back window.But this is going to be a pita!

So does anyone make the peice I am talking about.

O'l Buck · 10-05-2003, 01:15 AM

I'm not sure exactly what piece you are needing, but most everything that rusts away on these trucks is available through at least one of the vendors on this board.

BLACK AND BLUE 67-72 · 10-05-2003, 01:43 AM

I think what you are referring to is the Outrigger it goes from the front cab support to the rear cab support. And yes they do make the part!

c-tenkid · 10-05-2003, 02:55 AM

The piece I am referring to is like c channel.I would say it is 2.5 inchs tall.And goes from the front cab mount to the back of the cab.It is so rusted away on both sides I don't know where it is supposed to go.I will look at my 69 tommorow and check it out.

I will also have to call up ECE and talk to them and see if they have it.I am hoping to get the floor done in a couple weeks.I am going to buy a 5 lug disk long bed complete rolling chassis.And put it on that.

I hope this thing turns out nice.I am putting alot of work into it.

It should be worth it though the first time I go

*Gee_Emm* · 10-05-2003, 12:33 PM

You are going to have to get that piece of metal off of another cab. They arent all that common to rot out and no replacements are being made.

BLACK AND BLUE 67-72 · 10-05-2003, 01:41 PM

It is the outrigger, and YES they do make the part LMC has them part # 38-7944 @ $19.95 each.

*Gee_Emm* · 10-05-2003, 07:35 PM

I am understanding that the piece he needs is the beam that runs parallel to the door.

lukecp · 10-05-2003, 07:59 PM

If all else failt, cut the piece off of a junkyard truck.

If it is the piece i'm thinking about, i have never seen one rust out....might be able to weld in some small angle iron though and have it look OK....

BLACK AND BLUE 67-72 · 10-05-2003, 09:34 PM

UUMM, Then what is the outrigger for and where does it go?

palallin · 10-05-2003, 09:54 PM

They ARE labelled "Outriggers" in the LMC catalog, and LMC has them for abotu $10 a piece. I even have a pair I have to return because I ended up not needing them, so I know they DO exist.

BLACK AND BLUE 67-72 · 10-05-2003, 10:00 PM

palallin, thanks for clearing that up for me, that is what I thought they were but I don't guess anyone was listening to me. I looked under my truck and that was the only thing I saw even remotely close to what he was talking about!

Class of 69 · 10-05-2003, 10:37 PM

The outrigger is a brace under the floor pan. The channel he is referring to is almost directly over the frame rail, and no it isn't produced. C-tenkid...I wouldn't worry too much about how the under side looks. The important issue is the strength, and alignment of the replacement piece. If you cut out a lot of the floor when the cab is not mounted, it can spread, and not fit well once put back on a frame. Either make a jig to hold it in spec, or save the final welding till it's on a frame, and you can check all fitments, and alignment. Good Luck with your project!!!

BLACK AND BLUE 67-72 · 10-05-2003, 10:48 PM

Where is it exactly under the floor pan?

lukecp · 10-05-2003, 10:49 PM

We are both thinking of the same piece Class of 69.

It goes from the front cab support to the back...maybe 1' inward from the rocker panel??? Been awhile since i was underneath my cab and thought about it.

JimKshortstep4x4 · 10-06-2003, 07:34 AM

Here is a pic of the cab underside. The out riggers are the long
"z" shaped pieces. I can't think of anything else that fits the description.

Jim

BLACK AND BLUE 67-72 · 10-06-2003, 08:33 AM

Thanks, Jim I did not think that there was any other braces besides those. So they are called outriggers the two long pieces of metal that go from the front cab support to the back cab support and run almost directly over the frame? Because I do not see anything else that it could be.

JimKshortstep4x4 · 10-06-2003, 08:46 AM

Sometimes pictures can help!

Jim

BLACK AND BLUE 67-72 · 10-06-2003, 08:57 AM

INDEED!!!

dubie · 10-06-2003, 10:40 AM

hmmm so that's what cab supports look like

**passthebuck** · 10-06-2003, 12:31 PM

I have all kinds of rot in my cabfloor that I'm replacing right now. My outriggers are dust in the wind too & Class of 69 you are right - the cab can spread. Just in my case, it spread due to all the rot prior to me getting my hands on the truck. The door wont close right so I have to use some threaded rod & a turnbuckle to crank it all back into shape before i replace too much metal. Under my tank & under that thing that the cabsupport bolt goes through the floor is GONE. They dont make any of that for our trucks so I'm fabbing it up one piece at a time. I did one cabcorner yesterday & today/tomorow is turnbuckle/rear outer floor/cab support day. Now i'm off for more argon/co2!

*Gee_Emm* · 10-06-2003, 03:21 PM

Greg, you can have my under the gas tank metal from my converted Jimmy body. I will just be chucking it once I cut it off.

palallin · 10-06-2003, 03:58 PM

c-tenkind, Jim is correct: the "outrigers" are the long, z-shaped pieces that extend from the firewall braces back to the rear of the cab (good pic, Jim), almost but not quite parallel to the frame. They ARE reproduced in 45" length, and LMC has them for about $10 each.

10-04-2003, 03:23 PM	#1
c-tenkid Registered User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Festus mo Posts: 370	Does anyone make these? I took the cab off my 67 and moved it into my garage.What I fouund was a very bad floor.I had cut some of the rust out and replaced it from the top.I didn't know it was this bad though. First of all there is a piece of metal that goes from the front cab mount and all the way back.I am not sure what it is called.Well this was completly rotted out.So I removed all the spot welds and took it off.Also the front passenger side cab mount was shot.I am pretty sure I can make something to work.I have a mig welder and a plasma cutter and all the metal I would ever need.I would like to keep it somewhat original looking under there though.Instead of a cobbled togother mess. I also might be looking for a 67 cab also.This is pretty bad.I want the small back window.But this is going to be a pita! So does anyone make the peice I am talking about. __________________ 69 c-10 lwb,Converted to 4x4,dana 44f,12blt,4 inch lift,vortec headed 355,th350/np203 34x10.50x15 swamper tsl's

10-05-2003, 01:15 AM	#2
O'l Buck Recovering Truck Driver Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Orleans, NE USA Posts: 1,883	I'm not sure exactly what piece you are needing, but most everything that rusts away on these trucks is available through at least one of the vendors on this board. __________________ 67 K-20 350, SM465, Eaton rear, 4.56 no spin option 00 Dodge 2500 4x4, 24V cummins, 5 speed Chad South Central Nebraska

10-05-2003, 01:43 AM	#3
BLACK AND BLUE 67-72 Firefighter Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Yellville, Ar, USA Posts: 1,943	I think what you are referring to is the Outrigger it goes from the front cab support to the rear cab support. And yes they do make the part! __________________ '72 Chevy SWB 350 Auto '67 GMC LWB 350 4 speed '70 Chevy 4x4 Stepside 350 Auto Yellville, Ar. USA

10-05-2003, 02:55 AM	#4
c-tenkid Registered User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Festus mo Posts: 370	The piece I am referring to is like c channel.I would say it is 2.5 inchs tall.And goes from the front cab mount to the back of the cab.It is so rusted away on both sides I don't know where it is supposed to go.I will look at my 69 tommorow and check it out. I will also have to call up ECE and talk to them and see if they have it.I am hoping to get the floor done in a couple weeks.I am going to buy a 5 lug disk long bed complete rolling chassis.And put it on that. I hope this thing turns out nice.I am putting alot of work into it. It should be worth it though the first time I go __________________ 69 c-10 lwb,Converted to 4x4,dana 44f,12blt,4 inch lift,vortec headed 355,th350/np203 34x10.50x15 swamper tsl's

10-05-2003, 01:41 PM	#6
BLACK AND BLUE 67-72 Firefighter Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Yellville, Ar, USA Posts: 1,943	It is the outrigger, and YES they do make the part LMC has them part # 38-7944 @ $19.95 each. __________________ '72 Chevy SWB 350 Auto '67 GMC LWB 350 4 speed '70 Chevy 4x4 Stepside 350 Auto Yellville, Ar. USA

10-05-2003, 12:33 PM	#5
Gee_Emm Account Suspended Join Date: Sep 2000 Posts: 4,002	You are going to have to get that piece of metal off of another cab. They arent all that common to rot out and no replacements are being made.

10-05-2003, 07:35 PM	#7
Gee_Emm Account Suspended Join Date: Sep 2000 Posts: 4,002	I am understanding that the piece he needs is the beam that runs parallel to the door.

10-05-2003, 07:59 PM	#8
lukecp Formerly yellow72custom Join Date: May 2001 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 7,531	If all else failt, cut the piece off of a junkyard truck. If it is the piece i'm thinking about, i have never seen one rust out....might be able to weld in some small angle iron though and have it look OK.... __________________ '72 Chevy C10 Mild 350/TH350/3.07. Ochre/White. Old high school ride. '70 GMC C2500 '62 327 4bbl/SM465/4.56-geared Dana 60. White/White. Project or parts truck. '97 Saturn SL DD. 1.9/5-speed. 40+ highway mpg

10-05-2003, 09:34 PM	#9
BLACK AND BLUE 67-72 Firefighter Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Yellville, Ar, USA Posts: 1,943	UUMM, Then what is the outrigger for and where does it go? __________________ '72 Chevy SWB 350 Auto '67 GMC LWB 350 4 speed '70 Chevy 4x4 Stepside 350 Auto Yellville, Ar. USA

10-05-2003, 09:54 PM	#10
palallin Registered User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: St. James, MO Posts: 1,238	They ARE labelled "Outriggers" in the LMC catalog, and LMC has them for abotu $10 a piece. I even have a pair I have to return because I ended up not needing them, so I know they DO exist. __________________ '69 Longstep K-10: 327/SM465/T-221/Closed Knuckle Dana44/12-bolt.

10-05-2003, 10:00 PM	#11
BLACK AND BLUE 67-72 Firefighter Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Yellville, Ar, USA Posts: 1,943	palallin, thanks for clearing that up for me, that is what I thought they were but I don't guess anyone was listening to me. I looked under my truck and that was the only thing I saw even remotely close to what he was talking about! __________________ '72 Chevy SWB 350 Auto '67 GMC LWB 350 4 speed '70 Chevy 4x4 Stepside 350 Auto Yellville, Ar. USA

10-05-2003, 10:37 PM	#12
Class of 69 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Stillwater MN Posts: 1,166	The outrigger is a brace under the floor pan. The channel he is referring to is almost directly over the frame rail, and no it isn't produced. C-tenkid...I wouldn't worry too much about how the under side looks. The important issue is the strength, and alignment of the replacement piece. If you cut out a lot of the floor when the cab is not mounted, it can spread, and not fit well once put back on a frame. Either make a jig to hold it in spec, or save the final welding till it's on a frame, and you can check all fitments, and alignment. Good Luck with your project!!! __________________ 69 GMC K10 ..some restoration required....still..

10-05-2003, 10:48 PM	#13
BLACK AND BLUE 67-72 Firefighter Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Yellville, Ar, USA Posts: 1,943	Where is it exactly under the floor pan? __________________ '72 Chevy SWB 350 Auto '67 GMC LWB 350 4 speed '70 Chevy 4x4 Stepside 350 Auto Yellville, Ar. USA

10-05-2003, 10:49 PM	#14
lukecp Formerly yellow72custom Join Date: May 2001 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 7,531	We are both thinking of the same piece Class of 69. It goes from the front cab support to the back...maybe 1' inward from the rocker panel??? Been awhile since i was underneath my cab and thought about it. __________________ '72 Chevy C10 Mild 350/TH350/3.07. Ochre/White. Old high school ride. '70 GMC C2500 '62 327 4bbl/SM465/4.56-geared Dana 60. White/White. Project or parts truck. '97 Saturn SL DD. 1.9/5-speed. 40+ highway mpg

10-06-2003, 07:34 AM	#15
JimKshortstep4x4 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Muskegon,MI,USA Posts: 6,026	Here is a pic of the cab underside. The out riggers are the long "z" shaped pieces. I can't think of anything else that fits the description. Jim Attached Images



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10-06-2003, 08:33 AM	#16
BLACK AND BLUE 67-72 Firefighter Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Yellville, Ar, USA Posts: 1,943	Thanks, Jim I did not think that there was any other braces besides those. So they are called outriggers the two long pieces of metal that go from the front cab support to the back cab support and run almost directly over the frame? Because I do not see anything else that it could be. __________________ '72 Chevy SWB 350 Auto '67 GMC LWB 350 4 speed '70 Chevy 4x4 Stepside 350 Auto Yellville, Ar. USA

10-06-2003, 08:46 AM	#17
JimKshortstep4x4 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Muskegon,MI,USA Posts: 6,026	Sometimes pictures can help! Jim

10-06-2003, 08:57 AM	#18
BLACK AND BLUE 67-72 Firefighter Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Yellville, Ar, USA Posts: 1,943	INDEED!!! __________________ '72 Chevy SWB 350 Auto '67 GMC LWB 350 4 speed '70 Chevy 4x4 Stepside 350 Auto Yellville, Ar. USA

10-06-2003, 10:40 AM	#19
dubie Registered User Join Date: May 2000 Location: Flin Flon, Manitoba, Canada Posts: 8,855	hmmm so that's what cab supports look like __________________ My name's Tim and I'm a truckaholic My 56 Chevy shop truck build http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=562795

10-06-2003, 12:31 PM	#20
passthebuck Sisyphus was my mentor! Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Carleton Place, Ontario CANADA Posts: 984	I have all kinds of rot in my cabfloor that I'm replacing right now. My outriggers are dust in the wind too & Class of 69 you are right - the cab can spread. Just in my case, it spread due to all the rot prior to me getting my hands on the truck. The door wont close right so I have to use some threaded rod & a turnbuckle to crank it all back into shape before i replace too much metal. Under my tank & under that thing that the cabsupport bolt goes through the floor is GONE. They dont make any of that for our trucks so I'm fabbing it up one piece at a time. I did one cabcorner yesterday & today/tomorow is turnbuckle/rear outer floor/cab support day. Now i'm off for more argon/co2! __________________ passthebuck #5642 -TWO 1967 GMC 910's. One with L6/3-on-the tree and the other with 355 w/435hp & a 700r4. -a 2013 Honda Civic as my "sensible" car

10-06-2003, 03:21 PM	#21
Gee_Emm Account Suspended Join Date: Sep 2000 Posts: 4,002	Greg, you can have my under the gas tank metal from my converted Jimmy body. I will just be chucking it once I cut it off.

10-06-2003, 03:58 PM	#22
palallin Registered User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: St. James, MO Posts: 1,238	c-tenkind, Jim is correct: the "outrigers" are the long, z-shaped pieces that extend from the firewall braces back to the rear of the cab (good pic, Jim), almost but not quite parallel to the frame. They ARE reproduced in 45" length, and LMC has them for about $10 each. __________________ '69 Longstep K-10: 327/SM465/T-221/Closed Knuckle Dana44/12-bolt.

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