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wdz28ss · 10-10-2003, 09:06 PM

I've recieved alot of pm's on my rear notch from the post on dropping crossmembers. My notch was a weld together kit from turners. It's a 7" step notch. I used a competition engineering adjustable track bar to locate the rear end. Now i'm finding after my drop crossmember project that i'm needing to go 3 or 4 inches lower in the rear. So i'm going to build a backhalf with a suburban front half that i have. This way i'll have a notched SWB frame to sell...????

The picture attached is how it sat aired out with a bag plate in the front

wdz28ss · 10-10-2003, 09:07 PM

in progress pic

wdz28ss · 10-10-2003, 09:07 PM

another

wdz28ss · 10-10-2003, 09:08 PM

last one

crazy longhorn · 10-11-2003, 12:14 PM

looks good

I am into the rear of my longhorn, doing ladder bars & trying to decide tween coil overs or bags. Being new to the bag scene, i have a question......How does the truck ride with the bags over the axle? crazyL

wdz28ss · 10-11-2003, 12:29 PM

it rides great, i would rather have mounted the bags farther apart though. They are too close together and make it sway more than it should. It all depends on what you want to do when deciding between coils and bags. Coils are alot cheaper, while bags give you the ability to adjust your ride height for different loads.

crazy longhorn · 10-11-2003, 01:03 PM

what do you think is best? Monster no tch&bags under the notch......or outside the frame rails?

wdz28ss · 10-11-2003, 01:07 PM

i'd go outside if you can make them fit there. I really dont know what i was thinking putting them inside the frame rails....If you're just looking for a good ride and not to lay it on the ground...put the bags where the coils are supposed to go. Then you will get the good ride.

70 Jimmy · 10-11-2003, 08:51 PM

What is the bolt for on the front part of your C notch? Just curious.

wdz28ss · 10-11-2003, 08:58 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 70 Jimmy
What is the bolt for on the front part of your C notch? Just curious.

The bolt is what was holding the top of the coil spring in place while i was notchin the rear.

PrimeredThunder · 10-11-2003, 09:21 PM

Do you have any pics or details on that Notch itself? How hard was it to install? How much does Turners sell them for? I'm looking for something exactly like that.

Kenny

Izzy · 10-11-2003, 10:20 PM

Looks good. Is there any specific reason why you didn't go with a sleeve bag?

wdz28ss · 10-11-2003, 10:23 PM

sleeve bag?

Izzy · 10-12-2003, 09:49 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by wdz28ss
sleeve bag?

I've ridden in a lot of trucks with convoluted bags over the axle and they normally don't ride as well or get as much lift as a sleeve bag. I was just wondering.

That bag gets 7.5" of lift compared to 5" of lift with a convoluted bag over the axle.

crazy longhorn · 10-12-2003, 07:33 PM

how does the sleeve bag work out on the 1/2 ton trucks?once again, being new to bags......I am totallly illiterate on the subject. Better put, what rating is needed on a sleeve bag for a 1/2 ton truck , to run on top or behind the axle?

wdz28ss · 10-12-2003, 07:38 PM

My truck rides just fine...I cant say better than the sleeve bag, because I have never rode with one. But in my opinion, it rides 10x better than the coils ever could.....I know nothing on the sleeve bag setup.

Chevy Wrench · 10-13-2003, 02:57 AM

You said that you might sell your frame. I might need one. How much would you be asking for it? Let me know when you decide what you're going to do. I have access to our tow truck when ever I need it, so getting it down here wont be an issue. Thanks,
John

wdz28ss · 10-13-2003, 09:44 PM

chevy wrench...come up and check it out when you can...if you want it, we'll work something out.

phantom dually · 10-13-2003, 10:29 PM

I have my bags mounted to the outside of the frame just for the ride reason. I fiqured it would cut down on body roll and this seems to have been a good idea after reading your post. What are prices on the sleeve bag and will they mount using a ART brackets drilled for 2500 and 2600 # bags??

Chevy Wrench · 10-14-2003, 01:41 AM

wdz28ss, I will let you know when I plan to make the drive. Maybe this weekend? Thanks.

Izzy · 10-14-2003, 09:16 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by phantom dually
I have my bags mounted to the outside of the frame just for the ride reason. I fiqured it would cut down on body roll and this seems to have been a good idea after reading your post. What are prices on the sleeve bag and will they mount using a ART brackets drilled for 2500 and 2600 # bags??

The sleeve bag is about $10-20 cheaper than a 2600lb bag and yes they would bolt up to the art upper mounts.

The only thing with a sleeve bag you have to do differently is you have to make sure and run a bumpstop as well as make sure your shock maxes out before the bag your could pull the ring and the bag would come apart but the bag gives a superior ride and more lift.

10-10-2003, 09:06 PM	#1
wdz28ss Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Clinton, Ut Posts: 230	my rear step notch I've recieved alot of pm's on my rear notch from the post on dropping crossmembers. My notch was a weld together kit from turners. It's a 7" step notch. I used a competition engineering adjustable track bar to locate the rear end. Now i'm finding after my drop crossmember project that i'm needing to go 3 or 4 inches lower in the rear. So i'm going to build a backhalf with a suburban front half that i have. This way i'll have a notched SWB frame to sell...???? The picture attached is how it sat aired out with a bag plate in the front Attached Images __________________ '72 Cheyenne super, short-fleet, air-tilt-tach, fuel injected LT1, 700r4, 3.08 posi, 4WDB, step notched and bagged. "the one i wish i still had"

10-10-2003, 09:07 PM	#2
wdz28ss Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Clinton, Ut Posts: 230	in progress pic Attached Images __________________ '72 Cheyenne super, short-fleet, air-tilt-tach, fuel injected LT1, 700r4, 3.08 posi, 4WDB, step notched and bagged. "the one i wish i still had"

10-10-2003, 09:07 PM	#3
wdz28ss Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Clinton, Ut Posts: 230	another Attached Images __________________ '72 Cheyenne super, short-fleet, air-tilt-tach, fuel injected LT1, 700r4, 3.08 posi, 4WDB, step notched and bagged. "the one i wish i still had"

10-10-2003, 09:08 PM	#4
wdz28ss Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Clinton, Ut Posts: 230	last one Attached Images __________________ '72 Cheyenne super, short-fleet, air-tilt-tach, fuel injected LT1, 700r4, 3.08 posi, 4WDB, step notched and bagged. "the one i wish i still had"

10-11-2003, 12:14 PM	#5
crazy longhorn Fabricate till you "puke" Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Ill Posts: 9,402	looks good I am into the rear of my longhorn, doing ladder bars & trying to decide tween coil overs or bags. Being new to the bag scene, i have a question......How does the truck ride with the bags over the axle? crazyL __________________ 69 longhorn,4" chop,3/5 drop, 1/2 ton suspension/disc brakes,1 1/2" body drop,steel tilt clip, 5.3/Edelbrock rpm intake/600 carb, Hooker streetrod shorties,2 1/2" exhaust/ H pipe/50's Flows , 6 spd Richmond trans,12 bolt/ 3.40 gears....

10-11-2003, 12:29 PM	#6
wdz28ss Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Clinton, Ut Posts: 230	it rides great, i would rather have mounted the bags farther apart though. They are too close together and make it sway more than it should. It all depends on what you want to do when deciding between coils and bags. Coils are alot cheaper, while bags give you the ability to adjust your ride height for different loads. __________________ '72 Cheyenne super, short-fleet, air-tilt-tach, fuel injected LT1, 700r4, 3.08 posi, 4WDB, step notched and bagged. "the one i wish i still had"

10-11-2003, 01:03 PM	#7
crazy longhorn Fabricate till you "puke" Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Ill Posts: 9,402	what do you think is best? Monster no tch&bags under the notch......or outside the frame rails? __________________ 69 longhorn,4" chop,3/5 drop, 1/2 ton suspension/disc brakes,1 1/2" body drop,steel tilt clip, 5.3/Edelbrock rpm intake/600 carb, Hooker streetrod shorties,2 1/2" exhaust/ H pipe/50's Flows , 6 spd Richmond trans,12 bolt/ 3.40 gears....

10-11-2003, 01:07 PM	#8
wdz28ss Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Clinton, Ut Posts: 230	i'd go outside if you can make them fit there. I really dont know what i was thinking putting them inside the frame rails....If you're just looking for a good ride and not to lay it on the ground...put the bags where the coils are supposed to go. Then you will get the good ride. __________________ '72 Cheyenne super, short-fleet, air-tilt-tach, fuel injected LT1, 700r4, 3.08 posi, 4WDB, step notched and bagged. "the one i wish i still had"

10-11-2003, 08:51 PM	#9
70 Jimmy aka Crusher, Crushergmc Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: Oregon Posts: 1,834	What is the bolt for on the front part of your C notch? Just curious. __________________ "KEEP IT DOWN!" 70 Jimmy 454 2wd 56 GMC Big Window "It's funny till someone gets hurt, then it's freakin' hilarious"

10-11-2003, 09:21 PM	#11
PrimeredThunder Back from the Dead Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Salem, Oregon Posts: 522	Do you have any pics or details on that Notch itself? How hard was it to install? How much does Turners sell them for? I'm looking for something exactly like that. Kenny __________________ The only Carb that matters to me is the one under my hood! Salem, Oregon

10-11-2003, 10:20 PM	#12
Izzy Trucker. Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Fort Worth, TX Posts: 1,364	Looks good. Is there any specific reason why you didn't go with a sleeve bag?

10-11-2003, 10:23 PM	#13
wdz28ss Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Clinton, Ut Posts: 230	sleeve bag? __________________ '72 Cheyenne super, short-fleet, air-tilt-tach, fuel injected LT1, 700r4, 3.08 posi, 4WDB, step notched and bagged. "the one i wish i still had"

10-12-2003, 07:33 PM	#15
crazy longhorn Fabricate till you "puke" Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Ill Posts: 9,402	how does the sleeve bag work out on the 1/2 ton trucks?once again, being new to bags......I am totallly illiterate on the subject. Better put, what rating is needed on a sleeve bag for a 1/2 ton truck , to run on top or behind the axle? __________________ 69 longhorn,4" chop,3/5 drop, 1/2 ton suspension/disc brakes,1 1/2" body drop,steel tilt clip, 5.3/Edelbrock rpm intake/600 carb, Hooker streetrod shorties,2 1/2" exhaust/ H pipe/50's Flows , 6 spd Richmond trans,12 bolt/ 3.40 gears....

10-12-2003, 07:38 PM	#16
wdz28ss Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Clinton, Ut Posts: 230	My truck rides just fine...I cant say better than the sleeve bag, because I have never rode with one. But in my opinion, it rides 10x better than the coils ever could.....I know nothing on the sleeve bag setup. __________________ '72 Cheyenne super, short-fleet, air-tilt-tach, fuel injected LT1, 700r4, 3.08 posi, 4WDB, step notched and bagged. "the one i wish i still had"

10-13-2003, 02:57 AM	#17
Chevy Wrench former desert rat Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: salt lake city, utah Home of the 3 M's Mormons, methlabs and minivans Posts: 320	You said that you might sell your frame. I might need one. How much would you be asking for it? Let me know when you decide what you're going to do. I have access to our tow truck when ever I need it, so getting it down here wont be an issue. Thanks, John __________________ 94 Chevy Silverado Ext cab 4/6 drop w/ 18's and 2500watt system (work truck). 67 Chevy swb under const. frame off custom, 20's, bagged and a large rat under the hood,and a 1940 Chevy truck under const.



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10-13-2003, 09:44 PM	#18
wdz28ss Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Clinton, Ut Posts: 230	chevy wrench...come up and check it out when you can...if you want it, we'll work something out. __________________ '72 Cheyenne super, short-fleet, air-tilt-tach, fuel injected LT1, 700r4, 3.08 posi, 4WDB, step notched and bagged. "the one i wish i still had"

10-13-2003, 10:29 PM	#19
phantom dually Project92 SWB stepside Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Louisville KY Posts: 4,792	I have my bags mounted to the outside of the frame just for the ride reason. I fiqured it would cut down on body roll and this seems to have been a good idea after reading your post. What are prices on the sleeve bag and will they mount using a ART brackets drilled for 2500 and 2600 # bags?? __________________ 92 C1500 stepside 496 Stroker Competiton Engineering Ladder bars/QA1 coilovers. Dana 60 rear with 4.10 gear and posi. Bonspeed Palisade 20x12 in rear w/335/30/20 and 20x8.5 front w/245/40/20. 5/8 drop with Belltech springs/DJM spindles/drop shocks. WWS Progress thread http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=140448

10-14-2003, 01:41 AM	#20
Chevy Wrench former desert rat Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: salt lake city, utah Home of the 3 M's Mormons, methlabs and minivans Posts: 320	wdz28ss, I will let you know when I plan to make the drive. Maybe this weekend? Thanks. __________________ 94 Chevy Silverado Ext cab 4/6 drop w/ 18's and 2500watt system (work truck). 67 Chevy swb under const. frame off custom, 20's, bagged and a large rat under the hood,and a 1940 Chevy truck under const.

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