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krazy_texan · 10-23-2003, 09:39 AM

I have torn into my truck and discovered that i am going to need a new cab on it, i was wondering if it is legal for me to take the vin plate off of my truck and swap the vin plates around so as to keep my truck like it is with all the vin info, and if so where would i be able to get the rivits to do that.

palallin · 10-23-2003, 09:59 AM

The rivets are available (see elsewhere for a link to one source).

As for legality, there is no way that anyone can prove it was done even IF it is illegal in your neck of the woods. This is an example of a law which weakens jurisprudence: obeying it does no good in this situation and could actually cause harm, its operation is of no consequence to anyone but YOU, and it is entirely unenforceable.

Draw your own conclusions. . . .

BadAssChevy502 · 10-23-2003, 11:23 AM

Here is the link to the thread about the RIVETS

RIVETS THREAD

Longhorn Man · 10-24-2003, 12:22 AM

I say close the garage door and do it. Just don't tell anyone.

*Phillip Johnson* · 10-24-2003, 12:32 AM

Body shops do it all the time. amen

Longhorn Man · 10-24-2003, 01:11 AM

Body shops get busted for it too.
The law varies on what state you are in. Some places won't let you remove it even if you plan to re-install it to the same vehicle. (as in for a proper paint job)
You could probably be able to do it with the blessing of the DMV, but it would take so much b.s. red tape, that I would just do it and not tell anyone.

Jemost 72 · 10-24-2003, 02:28 AM

http://www.auto-theft.info/VIN-switching.htm

http://www.capitol.state.tx.us/cgi-b...O_DOC_TEXT=YES

Look at 501.158
I think I would call the local tag office 1st

BadAssChevy502 · 10-24-2003, 06:44 AM

What if you want to sand blast your cab ???? then you need to take it of isn't it

Locutus · 10-24-2003, 04:53 PM

As far as I understand it in Texas the VIN plate stays with the frame it matches. I was planning to do a cab swap and I called the tax office here in Victoria(for those out of state the local tax office deals with titles and vehicle registration) I was told to remove the VIN plate from the junk cab(the one being removed) it should stay with the truck either keep it in the glove box or replace the one on the new cab. I was told the frame is what the title identifies not body pieces. Now if you have a problem like me your title doesn't match the cab or the frame

. I tried the local sheriffs office but they can't run the vin number for the public.

I need to get the right title so I can trade or sell my short bed for a long bed

*Phillip Johnson* · 10-24-2003, 08:42 PM

Just do what you have to do. ive owned so many of these trucks and have been pulled over by several cops in many states and still have yet to have any one cop EVER look at the vin plate in any 67-72 Chevy. Most of them are too stupid to know where they are. They think they are always on the driverside dash. When it isnt on the dash, they just say oh well and go on with the ticket or what ever it was that they wasted your time pulling you over. If you are in Oregon, most of the cops are A$$ hole$ and would never "ask" where the vin is and admit they are ignorant sob's. In Oregon there is 1 cop for every 3 drivers on the road. Ive been pulled over 4 times in 1 year so far (with only one BS ticket making me go to traffic school) and the other were seatbelt tickets which I have the "get out of jail free card" that exempts me from being strapped into anything with wheels on it.
Ive also been pulled over by the same guy twice. He got me 50 feet away from the dealer when test driving a new Yukon..

dinnut · 10-24-2003, 09:22 PM

the vin plate is off of my truck. its in there but its not attached. the title matches my parts truck frame. po put the vin off of the parts truck onto the 70. luckily he gave me the truck with the frame that is original to my title

10-23-2003, 09:39 AM	#1
krazy_texan Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: West Des Moines, Ia Posts: 3,233	Vin plate ? I have torn into my truck and discovered that i am going to need a new cab on it, i was wondering if it is legal for me to take the vin plate off of my truck and swap the vin plates around so as to keep my truck like it is with all the vin info, and if so where would i be able to get the rivits to do that. __________________ Krazy Texan My Trucks are made with Wrenches not Chop Sticks 1967 GMC 3/4 ton "Johnny Cash" 1990 v1500 suburban 1967 Ford f100 Swb 4x4 "green bean" GOD BLESS JESUS, JOHN WAYNE, AND THE ALAMO

10-23-2003, 09:59 AM	#2
palallin Registered User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: St. James, MO Posts: 1,238	The rivets are available (see elsewhere for a link to one source). As for legality, there is no way that anyone can prove it was done even IF it is illegal in your neck of the woods. This is an example of a law which weakens jurisprudence: obeying it does no good in this situation and could actually cause harm, its operation is of no consequence to anyone but YOU, and it is entirely unenforceable. Draw your own conclusions. . . . __________________ '69 Longstep K-10: 327/SM465/T-221/Closed Knuckle Dana44/12-bolt.

10-23-2003, 11:23 AM	#3
BadAssChevy502 Yeh It's Fast Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Zwijndrecht ,The Netherlands ,Europe Posts: 143	Thread to rivets Here is the link to the thread about the RIVETS RIVETS THREAD __________________ (I'm sorry if the spelling isn't correct,i'm trying the best I can ) 1972 C20 3/4 Pickup Fleetside 502ci Th400 Click here to view pictures of my truck 1971 C20 3/4 Pickup Fleetside 350ci 3speed manual gearbox "IF IT AIN'T BROKE DON'T TRY TO FIX IT" Zwijndrecht, The Netherlands Europe

10-24-2003, 02:28 AM	#7
Jemost 72 Southern Bowties Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Fort Worth, TX Posts: 240	http://www.auto-theft.info/VIN-switching.htm http://www.capitol.state.tx.us/cgi-b...O_DOC_TEXT=YES Look at 501.158 I think I would call the local tag office 1st __________________ 1972 Cheyenne 350/350 Last edited by Jemost 72; 10-24-2003 at 03:15 AM.

10-24-2003, 06:44 AM	#8
BadAssChevy502 Yeh It's Fast Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Zwijndrecht ,The Netherlands ,Europe Posts: 143	What if What if you want to sand blast your cab ???? then you need to take it of isn't it __________________ (I'm sorry if the spelling isn't correct,i'm trying the best I can ) 1972 C20 3/4 Pickup Fleetside 502ci Th400 Click here to view pictures of my truck 1971 C20 3/4 Pickup Fleetside 350ci 3speed manual gearbox "IF IT AIN'T BROKE DON'T TRY TO FIX IT" Zwijndrecht, The Netherlands Europe

10-24-2003, 12:22 AM	#4
Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,690	I say close the garage door and do it. Just don't tell anyone.

10-24-2003, 12:32 AM	#5
Phillip Johnson Account Suspended Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Grants Pass, Oregon Posts: 1,579	Body shops do it all the time. amen

10-24-2003, 01:11 AM	#6
Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,690	Body shops get busted for it too. The law varies on what state you are in. Some places won't let you remove it even if you plan to re-install it to the same vehicle. (as in for a proper paint job) You could probably be able to do it with the blessing of the DMV, but it would take so much b.s. red tape, that I would just do it and not tell anyone.

10-24-2003, 04:53 PM	#9
Locutus Registered User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Santa Fe, Texas Posts: 249	As far as I understand it in Texas the VIN plate stays with the frame it matches. I was planning to do a cab swap and I called the tax office here in Victoria(for those out of state the local tax office deals with titles and vehicle registration) I was told to remove the VIN plate from the junk cab(the one being removed) it should stay with the truck either keep it in the glove box or replace the one on the new cab. I was told the frame is what the title identifies not body pieces. Now if you have a problem like me your title doesn't match the cab or the frame. I tried the local sheriffs office but they can't run the vin number for the public. I need to get the right title so I can trade or sell my short bed for a long bed

10-24-2003, 08:42 PM	#10
Phillip Johnson Account Suspended Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Grants Pass, Oregon Posts: 1,579	Just do what you have to do. ive owned so many of these trucks and have been pulled over by several cops in many states and still have yet to have any one cop EVER look at the vin plate in any 67-72 Chevy. Most of them are too stupid to know where they are. They think they are always on the driverside dash. When it isnt on the dash, they just say oh well and go on with the ticket or what ever it was that they wasted your time pulling you over. If you are in Oregon, most of the cops are A$$ hole$ and would never "ask" where the vin is and admit they are ignorant sob's. In Oregon there is 1 cop for every 3 drivers on the road. Ive been pulled over 4 times in 1 year so far (with only one BS ticket making me go to traffic school) and the other were seatbelt tickets which I have the "get out of jail free card" that exempts me from being strapped into anything with wheels on it. Ive also been pulled over by the same guy twice. He got me 50 feet away from the dealer when test driving a new Yukon.. Last edited by Phillip Johnson; 10-24-2003 at 08:46 PM.

10-24-2003, 09:22 PM	#11
dinnut Registered User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: missouri city, tx Posts: 4,486	the vin plate is off of my truck. its in there but its not attached. the title matches my parts truck frame. po put the vin off of the parts truck onto the 70. luckily he gave me the truck with the frame that is original to my title __________________ 70 longbed 496/th400/Ford 9"



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