Steering Box Location

[rollenhard]

To run these http://www.jegs.com/i/Flowtech/387/11510/10002/-1 on my 1950 Chevy Truck with a 230 motor do i have to move my stock steering box location
Thanks

[NEWFISHER]

There is a bunch of work to move the stock box. I went with cast headers from www.stoveboltengines.com just remember to tell Tom they are for a truck and he custom makes the forward one to clear. They sound great on my 250
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[rollenhard]

Thanks NEWFISHER but do i need to move the steering box to run the full length headers With the 230 motor?

[mknittle]

I don't know for sure but if the were designed using a "tall deck" 292 they will stick down a couple inches farther on a "short deck" 230-250 this could be a problem if you have or are going to lower the truck.

[rollenhard]

I am not slamming it im just going with 3" Dropped leaf springs

[rollenhard]

still in need of help do i need to move my steering box to run these headers?
http://www.jegs.com/i/Flowtech/387/11510/10002/-1

[NEWFISHER]

I would think if Jegs didn't list the early trucks as a good fitment , something has to be modified. Have you called their Tech department? Remeber, shipping them back will be more than them getting those to you ( they get a huge discount) I would get ones that you know will work.

[rollenhard]

Thanks
NEWFISHER i will give them a call
The main reason i am asking is the guy i bought the 50 Chevy truck off of moved the box back for some reason maybe to put the 230 engine in? im new to the inline six scene so i have no idea i usuley rip everything out to put V8 in i no don't hate anyways i want to put the steering box back in the stock location if i can.
P.S Do you have to move the steering box location to put the 230,250 engines in?
Thanks

[mknittle]

Originally Posted by rollenhard

Thanks
NEWFISHER i will give them a call
The main reason i am asking is the guy i bought the 50 Chevy truck off of moved the box back for some reason maybe to put the 230 engine in? im new to the inline six scene so i have no idea i usuley rip everything out to put V8 in i no don't hate anyways i want to put the steering box back in the stock location if i can.
P.S Do you have to move the steering box location to put the 230,250 engines in?
Thanks

No the 250 is if anything slightly smaller than the earlier sixes.
The steering box may have been moved back to gain better geometry on the drag link to prevent bump steer. the hedders will be less likely to fit with the box farther forward.
My thoughts only apply if the stock style front axle in still used.

pictures would help!

[rollenhard]

Does this help

[mknittle]

cliffords shortys might be a better fit because of the frame mounted clutch/brake are no longer used.

[mr48chev]

Rollinhard that box has been spaced out from the frame to clear a V8 at one time. It may have been moved back slightly but it looks like they moved it almost 2 inches out from where it normally sits and cut part of the tube off the column for clearance. Your steering wheel probably sits at an angle too.
I don't think you will have any header clearance issues with it the way it is but otherwise having the box spaced out off the frame isn't needed with the six.
That pitman arm looks rather shaky too from what I can see in the photo but that may just be the angle it's sitting at.
They did/do that with the stock steering box to clear the left exhaust manifold on V8 engines in these trucks.

We will have to archive that photo when guys ask what they need to do to put a V8 in a truck with a stock steering box.

[bob Scott]

I don't know of any reason to move the box other then for a V8 motor. That can even be avoided if stock, rear exit exhausts are used.

[NEWFISHER]

The 250 is bigger than a 235. When I installed the 250 in the Burb a few weeks back, I ran into a problem with the front cast header hitting the steering box ( stock location). I called Langdons and Tom said " you should have let us know they were going into a truck , not a car and we will modify it for free". I didn't have time to send it back, wait etc so I had a local machinist weld it up ( cast-oven bake and nickle copper rod) after it was chopped and turned to fit. Works great

Your box, if moved back should clear the forward header no problem, especially if you let Tom know that its for a truck. By the looks of your pics, you shouldnt have a problem. Knowing the box location has been modified, I would draw a birds eye sketch looking down and draw out the location of the block, measure out to the frame, draw in the box location, measure from firewall and get an idea on paper what room you have , then fax it or email lit to Tom at Langdons, Clifford etc and it will give the suppliers the answers they need to give you the best advise.

The Langdons are reeally nice pieces, look like they flow and perform well, sound great , dont leak and can be modified to fit anything. My first choice if I was going to do it again.

[rollenhard]

Thanks for all the advise guys that's kinda what i figured out today that it had a V8 in it previously and from what you are saying confirms it. Anyways i removed the steering box and cut and ground off the hack job box mount smooth. And mr48chev good eye it was very shaky so was the tie rod and so on everything was cut and welded scarey job they did.Im looking for a stock tie-rod setup if anyone has one laying around collecting dust let me no
Thanks