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Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Ottawa Ontario
Posts: 28
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Window electrical short
Well I just finished repairing the wiring in the window circuit of my '89 Silverado. I'll just post a brief description of the fix, as I see this could be a fairly common problem. The right window could be operated down but not up, from the left side (driver's) switch. When commanding up, the lights would go dim as though there was a dead short to ground in the window circuit, which there was. After disconnecting the harness from the right door by pulling the harness out of the front cab door opening structure and disconnecting the plugs found inside, the short to ground was still there. This meant that the short was in the harness between the left and right side of the truck. Here's the problem — the window and door lock wiring harness runs along the top of the inside of the firewall in front of the firewall insulation blanket so the whole instrument panel and dash has to be removed, which is quite a job. I disassembled enough to move the whole dash aft about 6 inches, which gave access to the harness. I found the harness to be draped over 3 or 4 hard points with no protection other than the black electrical tape used to wrap the harness. I found the harness had chaffed through on a canted firewall support just right of the steering column support. The support had very sharp sheet metal edges, and was a really stupid place to drape a wiring harness over without any anti-chaffing protection. The support had chaffed through the insulation on 4 of the 7 wires in the harness, but fortunately not the pink power supply wire, which would have shorted out the whole window system. ... really stupid design and really poor manufacturing techniques by GM.
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Location: Gulfport, MS USA
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Re: Window electrical short
1..The door switch is bad
2. The door lift motor has the short. I have had to replace on my old truck and many frieds trucks the window switch and or window motor for the same issues. Also remember the right side (passenger) wiring runs thru the drivers side switch also. You mighjt want to disconnect that to see if you still get the short. I am betting the driver side switch is probably the issue.
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Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Ottawa Ontario
Posts: 28
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Re: Window electrical short
You're right, I have already had to replace one of the switches, however if you read my post, in this case I actually found the short. Four wires in the harness were chafed through the insulation and the bl/wt wire that provides up power to the right motor from the left door switch had shorted completely to ground on that firewall support in front of the dash. I posted this beacuse the way the truck was built (at the factory), it is highly likely that this problem would occur on many other trucks with power windows/locks. If you seem to have a window problem (or door lock problem because the door lock wires run in the same harness) owners may want to look at this harness. The wires are now repaired (and protected from further chafing) and the windows now work perfectly.
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State of Confusion!
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Location: Gulfport, MS USA
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Re: Window electrical short
You're correct I missed that one small sentence. Glad it is working for ya. I need to fix my bifocals
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Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Ottawa Ontario
Posts: 28
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Re: Window electrical short
... happens to me all the time .. 'specially at work.
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Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: new york
Posts: 88
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Re: Window electrical short
I put body sealant tape over the column support, and put wire loom over some of the edges of the metal
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