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mgkgmc · 01-21-2013, 08:55 PM

I just picked up this 69/70 grille from a guy on craiglist it came with this box end. He tells me he got it in a trade the box got damaged from sitting in his back yard and he said it is NOS. Is there anyway to verify if its real GM Grille. I heard that some of the stuff from GM is a certified GM repro parts or is this a real GM part? The box has a GM part number 3985054.

lpaine · 01-21-2013, 08:58 PM

I would hazard a guess that is a genuine gm part, if so looks like you got a very valuable piece, Congrats

463 · 01-21-2013, 09:01 PM

Heres what i found at http://www.newgmparts.com/parts/inde...&siteid=213815

Part Number
3985054
Part Name
GRILLE
MSRP
$904.57
Online Price
$667.57

can't tell for sure if it's a NOS or production.

*Mister-B* · 01-21-2013, 09:01 PM

It's definitely beautiful. One thing though, is the black painted edge between the headlights and the turn signals. From the factory, there were no black edges. The lines terminated into the headlight. Not sure if chevy stopped doing this with the grilles they made available for purchase, or if that means your grille is not NOS. I'm confusing myself lol
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Spartan · 01-21-2013, 09:10 PM

It's not factory but as misterb said it could still be nos. someone who knows more than I will chime in. Good find tho looks pretty str8.
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mgkgmc · 01-21-2013, 09:19 PM

You can't tell by the pic but this grille is super straight. I'm just trying to verify if it's a real GM grille It has no numbers on it that I can see Sure this has been asked before but how can you tell the difference between a aftermarket one and a real Nos GM repro?
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**mr48chev** · 01-21-2013, 09:26 PM

You might be able to figure out on the tag that is stuck to the end when it was shipped to the dealer. If it is the one that came in that box originally it is genuine GM and as it has never been installed it would somewhat fit the concept of new old stock. It may be that it was produced in the 70's or early 80's and that is the reason it didn't have the black stripe like one that had been sitting in a dealers attic since 1968.

I'm pretty sure that that sticker on the box end is the GM pull ticket that was printed out when the order hit the warehouse and the part was pulled and shipped.

I'm not sure why you are so worried unless you plan to flip it and make a bunch of money on it.

SS Tim · 01-21-2013, 09:30 PM

Your grill looks like it could indeed be a GM service replacement part. Having the flap only proves the flap, but it seems to be the same as the later service parts. It is not the same as the production grill, as the stamped shape is different between the signal and the headlight openings. Additionally the amount of black infill and ends are also incorrect.

It might be better just to direct you to this thread for all the details and debate.
http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s....php?p=5761936

**FirstOwner69** · 01-21-2013, 09:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SS Tim

Your grill looks like it could indeed be a GM service replacement part. Having the flap only proves the flap, but it seems to be the same as the later service parts. It is not the same as the production grill, as the stamped shape is different between the signal and the headlight openings. Additionally the amount of black infill and ends are also incorrect.

It might be better just to direct you to this thread for all the details and debate.
http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s....php?p=5761936

As usual, I agree with Tim. The original on my 69 was replaced in early 1972 with one like the one pictured in post #1. It was a GM grille as produced at that time. It appears you got the real deal, albeit a service replacement.

mcbassin · 01-21-2013, 09:50 PM

Very nice GM replacement part. Looks like crap... You want to sell it? Just kidding..... Nice score!!!!
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mgkgmc · 01-21-2013, 10:37 PM

Just want to say thanks guys. I didnt want to post a misleading ad in the parts board It will be for sale really soon. Since I'm a GMC guy it has no use for me. I guess I didn't do too bad I got it really cheap.
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*Mister-B* · 01-21-2013, 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by mgkgmc

Just want to say thanks guys. I didnt want to post a misleading ad in the parts board It will be for sale really soon. Since I'm a GMC guy it has no use for me. I guess I didn't do too bad I got it really cheap.
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Before you put it up for sale, please contact user Madtat. Check out post 70 on this thread http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...=561494&page=3

He may be interested
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c10monkey · 01-21-2013, 11:51 PM

Its interesting that the box got ruined from sitting out side in the weather , yet the grill looks perfect?

Playing the devils advocate. .....
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Gmichael · 01-22-2013, 12:07 AM

I suppose I wouldn't be concerned either way, unless you paid a premium for it.
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**jocko** · 01-22-2013, 12:19 AM

what tim said - later year actual gm replacement part. Many still try to find the kind that have the horizontal lines that extend all the way to the headlight buckets, but if I had a 69/70, I'd have no problem stickin this on there. It's still gm, that's a big step above repro in my book.

mgkgmc · 01-22-2013, 10:25 AM

SO I did a little research and It looks like it came from Ray Korte Chevrolet in Scottsdale Az which has been closed since 2008. The date didn't tell me much I could see it says the month and day. But here is some pics of the labels on the box end. Is it true also that Nos Gm grilles have anodized type finish and aftermarket repro grilles are clearcoated.

mgkgmc · 01-22-2013, 11:04 AM

A little better pic

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70c10-08 · 01-22-2013, 11:58 AM

Heres a simaler thread http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=480585

01-21-2013, 08:58 PM	#2
lpaine Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Parksville, B.C. Canada Posts: 637	Re: NOS? GM Grill I would hazard a guess that is a genuine gm part, if so looks like you got a very valuable piece, Congrats __________________ 1969 G.M.C 3/4 Ton 920 (Canadian Version) 307 3 speed, currently apart 1998 Chevy 1/2 ton ex cab V-6 5 speed 1967 Chevy SWB - project truck; not started just yet

01-21-2013, 09:01 PM	#3
463 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Sask Canada Posts: 1,666	Re: NOS? GM Grill Heres what i found at http://www.newgmparts.com/parts/inde...&siteid=213815 Part Number 3985054 Part Name GRILLE MSRP $904.57 Online Price $667.57 can't tell for sure if it's a NOS or production. __________________ Trueman Last edited by 463; 01-21-2013 at 09:15 PM.

01-21-2013, 09:01 PM	#4
Mister-B Account Suspended Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Salt Lake City, Utah Posts: 3,331	Re: NOS? GM Grill It's definitely beautiful. One thing though, is the black painted edge between the headlights and the turn signals. From the factory, there were no black edges. The lines terminated into the headlight. Not sure if chevy stopped doing this with the grilles they made available for purchase, or if that means your grille is not NOS. I'm confusing myself lol Posted via Mobile Device

01-21-2013, 09:10 PM	#5
Spartan Registered User Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Backwoods, OR Posts: 888	Re: NOS? GM Grill It's not factory but as misterb said it could still be nos. someone who knows more than I will chime in. Good find tho looks pretty str8. Posted via Mobile Device __________________ '69 K20 350/4 speed/Rockwell/D44/HO52. "orange rhymes with door hinge"

01-21-2013, 09:19 PM	#6
mgkgmc Registered User Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Glendale Arizona Posts: 1,354	Re: NOS? GM Grill You can't tell by the pic but this grille is super straight. I'm just trying to verify if it's a real GM grille It has no numbers on it that I can see Sure this has been asked before but how can you tell the difference between a aftermarket one and a real Nos GM repro? Posted via Mobile Device __________________ 1970 GMC 1500 stepside 1972 GMC Jimmy Custom 2004 Chevy Colorado 1989 Swb Silverado 1972 Aj's Stormer

01-21-2013, 08:55 PM	#1
mgkgmc Registered User Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Glendale Arizona Posts: 1,354	NOS? GM Grill I just picked up this 69/70 grille from a guy on craiglist it came with this box end. He tells me he got it in a trade the box got damaged from sitting in his back yard and he said it is NOS. Is there anyway to verify if its real GM Grille. I heard that some of the stuff from GM is a certified GM repro parts or is this a real GM part? The box has a GM part number 3985054. Attached Images __________________ 1970 GMC 1500 stepside 1972 GMC Jimmy Custom 2004 Chevy Colorado 1989 Swb Silverado 1972 Aj's Stormer

01-21-2013, 09:26 PM	#7
mr48chev Registered User Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Toppenish, WA Posts: 15,721	Re: NOS? GM Grill You might be able to figure out on the tag that is stuck to the end when it was shipped to the dealer. If it is the one that came in that box originally it is genuine GM and as it has never been installed it would somewhat fit the concept of new old stock. It may be that it was produced in the 70's or early 80's and that is the reason it didn't have the black stripe like one that had been sitting in a dealers attic since 1968. I'm pretty sure that that sticker on the box end is the GM pull ticket that was printed out when the order hit the warehouse and the part was pulled and shipped. I'm not sure why you are so worried unless you plan to flip it and make a bunch of money on it. __________________ Founding member of the too many projects, too little time and money club. My ongoing truck projects: 48 Chev 3100 that will run a 292 Six. 71 GMC 2500 that is getting a Cad 500 transplant. 77 C 30 dualie, 454, 4 speed with a 10 foot flatbed and hoist. It does the heavy work and hauls the projects around. Last edited by mr48chev; 01-21-2013 at 09:35 PM.

01-21-2013, 09:30 PM	#8
SS Tim Registered User Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Edwards, CA Posts: 7,503	Re: NOS? GM Grill Your grill looks like it could indeed be a GM service replacement part. Having the flap only proves the flap, but it seems to be the same as the later service parts. It is not the same as the production grill, as the stamped shape is different between the signal and the headlight openings. Additionally the amount of black infill and ends are also incorrect. It might be better just to direct you to this thread for all the details and debate. http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s....php?p=5761936 __________________ Thanks, Tim * VIN/Model Decoders * Power Team Charts (engine/transmission/gear ratio) * Post Your Pickup SPID Blazer SPID Suburban/Panel SPID * RTFM ... Read The Factory Manuals... download 'em here Highlanders Do you have a 1972 Plaid Pickup? Plaid Blazer ** Plaid Suburban

01-21-2013, 09:50 PM	#10
mcbassin Still Learning Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Central Oklahoma Posts: 10,108	Re: NOS? GM Grill Very nice GM replacement part. Looks like crap... You want to sell it? Just kidding..... Nice score!!!! Posted via Mobile Device __________________ Mike "69 Short Wide" My Project 86 Silverado Landen's Project Instagram: @mcbassin My Website C/10 Club Oklahoma Facebook Group

01-21-2013, 10:37 PM	#11
mgkgmc Registered User Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Glendale Arizona Posts: 1,354	Re: NOS? GM Grill Just want to say thanks guys. I didnt want to post a misleading ad in the parts board It will be for sale really soon. Since I'm a GMC guy it has no use for me. I guess I didn't do too bad I got it really cheap. Posted via Mobile Device __________________ 1970 GMC 1500 stepside 1972 GMC Jimmy Custom 2004 Chevy Colorado 1989 Swb Silverado 1972 Aj's Stormer

01-21-2013, 11:51 PM	#13
c10monkey Registered User Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Lebanon Ohio Posts: 187	Re: NOS? GM Grill Its interesting that the box got ruined from sitting out side in the weather , yet the grill looks perfect? Playing the devils advocate. ..... Posted via Mobile Device __________________ 1971 Chevrolet C10 Inflation Fighter 1994 C3500 Crew Cab Dually 454

01-22-2013, 12:07 AM	#14
Gmichael Registered User Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Vancouver, wa Posts: 54	Re: NOS? GM Grill I suppose I wouldn't be concerned either way, unless you paid a premium for it. Posted via Mobile Device __________________ 1970 C-10 SWB (350, TH400, one tire fire...)

01-22-2013, 12:19 AM	#15
jocko Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Godley, TX Posts: 17,975	Re: NOS? GM Grill what tim said - later year actual gm replacement part. Many still try to find the kind that have the horizontal lines that extend all the way to the headlight buckets, but if I had a 69/70, I'd have no problem stickin this on there. It's still gm, that's a big step above repro in my book.

01-22-2013, 10:25 AM	#16
mgkgmc Registered User Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Glendale Arizona Posts: 1,354	Re: NOS? GM Grill SO I did a little research and It looks like it came from Ray Korte Chevrolet in Scottsdale Az which has been closed since 2008. The date didn't tell me much I could see it says the month and day. But here is some pics of the labels on the box end. Is it true also that Nos Gm grilles have anodized type finish and aftermarket repro grilles are clearcoated. Attached Images __________________ 1970 GMC 1500 stepside 1972 GMC Jimmy Custom 2004 Chevy Colorado 1989 Swb Silverado 1972 Aj's Stormer

01-22-2013, 11:04 AM	#17
mgkgmc Registered User Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Glendale Arizona Posts: 1,354	Re: NOS? GM Grill A little better pic Attached Images __________________ 1970 GMC 1500 stepside 1972 GMC Jimmy Custom 2004 Chevy Colorado 1989 Swb Silverado 1972 Aj's Stormer



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01-22-2013, 11:33 AM	#18
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01-22-2013, 11:58 AM	#19
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