Is a cut down longbed a bad decision?!! - The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network

BLACKLINE61 · 07-13-2013, 09:26 AM

Hey guys,
I'm seriously looking at getting a 72 cheyenne super Ive had my eye
on for a few months now, everything checks out on the truck and
all the original "super" addons are there and in good condition
However spid states 127"......

My question for you fine folks is what should I be looking for to see if it was
done properly when I crawl under it later today?
Also any other concerns I should have because of this mod?
Thanks!

cdowns · 07-13-2013, 09:37 AM

an extensive road test to see if it runs drives and stops straight is an excellent idea// somebody following it to see how it looks goin down the road and to make sure it does not crabwalk down the highway

personally you could not give me one

BLACKLINE61 · 07-13-2013, 09:43 AM

heres the truck

Lee H · 07-13-2013, 09:47 AM

If it was done right a shortened truck can be a great value. IMHO, if they z'ed and fish plated the fame and used a real short bed it could be a great buy. If they just butt welded the frame and hacked up the bed it would not make my list.
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STOCKISH · 07-13-2013, 09:53 AM

I agree with ^^, If done properly, sure why not. If the fab work is junky, then I would keep looking.

Rufton · 07-13-2013, 10:03 AM

Looks sweet. Sounds scary. Could you post detailed pics and info about frame splice? If splice looks strong and professional I would do a frame flex test and alignment check before making offer. If splice is questionable I'd consider low ball and have a wizard pro welder double check and strengthen if needed. Maybe a less informed soul will snatch it up in the meantime.

Husker · 07-13-2013, 10:15 AM

No different than someone C-Notching the frame and lowering it.
Ron

cardreams · 07-13-2013, 12:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Husker

No different than someone C-Notching the frame and lowering it.
Ron

ahhh i dont think so man sorry way differnt just me 2 cents
you could give me on that has been cut to shorten it

Gene · 07-13-2013, 01:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cdowns

personally you could not give me one

I've had a couple and they were done correct. If anybody offers to give you one, by all means turn it down and let me know.
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Husker · 07-13-2013, 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cardreams

ahhh i dont think so man sorry way differnt just me 2 cents
you could give me on that has been cut to shorten it

What?
Ron

BLACKLINE61 · 07-13-2013, 05:01 PM

Thanks for the input guys!
I'm inclined to follow the check it out and roll with it as long as it looks legit crowd on this one.... Since it seems to come down to personal opinion rather than a definite reason not to... and honestly frame mods don't frighten me too much (I've bagged and notched a few vehicles myself over the years)
Thanks again

Hubscrub · 07-13-2013, 05:47 PM

as long as it checks out why not? they do it to big rigs all the time

Rufton · 07-13-2013, 07:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hubscrub

as long as it checks out why not? they do it to big rigs all the time

I thought big rigs had tempered frames?

cdowns · 07-13-2013, 07:47 PM

of course if it "looks good" it "MIGHT" b good the way you really find out it aint so good is ifin you hit a bump at 60MPH an the thing cums apart in pieces "DO YA FEEL LUCKY"

JointTech · 07-13-2013, 07:49 PM

id probably buy one assuming it looked ok and tracked straight. Im going to cut one on my next build. swb are to expensive and im not keeping anything original. I think if you are all hot and bothered by it having all the original stuff for a super then having a non matching spid might not be what you want.

**lolife99** · 07-13-2013, 07:51 PM

No one said the frame was cut.
Just assumed.
Could have been body swapped to a factory short wheelbase frame.

Let us know what you find out.
It looks like a nice truck.

bentshank · 07-13-2013, 11:20 PM

I am fairly new to the sight, but have had alot of these
Trucks. There is nothing at all wrong with a truck that has been shortened
If done correctly. In many cases the frames were not as straight from the factory as they
Are after being shortened. Also if that truck is as nice as it looks with all the equipment
On it , buy it and if it bothers you that its been cut find you a factory uncut short frame. I've switched them over in a weekend. Problem solved.
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junkyard · 07-14-2013, 04:14 AM

I have one.
Just cut straight down and welded back together.
Can't imagine it ever being an issue. I also have a International 3 axle truck with a lengthened frame (2 welds per side) and it carries 50,000 lbs.
I'd buy it.

Andy4639 · 07-14-2013, 11:09 AM

I'm going to put my 2 cents in here as I have done before.

If the work is done right then there is no issue with the frame. That's on any mod done to any vehicle. These trucks are harder and harder to find that some one hasn't done something to them.

Now for me I wouldn't buy it for one reason. Paper work!
Insurance is my main concern. If the truck is in a wreck and they investagate it because of injury to another person then u may have all kinds of head aches with it. I know a lot of u will disagree but in the real world a lawyer for someone injured will find everything he can to say it was the trucks owner who was at fault for modifying a vehicle from the orignal way it came from the factory.
This is why I haven't notched my 71 frame.
Auto manufactures have fedral laws that they have to follow when building vehicles and as aftermarket companies do to.
can you do it yes and hopefully never have anything go wrong but for me it's not worth it.
This is the only reason why I would never have one.

Barcobear · 07-14-2013, 11:22 AM

That truck was not cut down. They put the cab on a short bed frame. The C-10 King had already checked it out.

Rufton · 07-14-2013, 11:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barcobear

That truck was not cut down. They put the cab on a short bed frame. The C-10 King had already checked it out.

Guess that means they aren't giving it away.

19673ontree · 07-14-2013, 12:20 PM

This debate will probably rage on forever , its like this long bed trucks are in the same realm as 4 door car's but with the trucks we have the option to shorten them and make them into a short bed this can be a GOOD thing it can also be a BAD thing the problem is that a short bed is WORTH MORE MONEY ! thus it causes people that don't know what they are doing to shorten long beds trying to make money and it comes back on the poor guy that ends up with a hack job ! here is a thread a guy posted a while back he did it correctly and would I like to own the truck in this thread YES I WOULD ! take a look at how you SHOULD SHORTEN A LONGBED !

http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...=peach+orchard

07-13-2013, 09:26 AM	#1
BLACKLINE61 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: a****er ca Posts: 43	Is a cut down longbed a bad decision?!! Hey guys, I'm seriously looking at getting a 72 cheyenne super Ive had my eye on for a few months now, everything checks out on the truck and all the original "super" addons are there and in good condition However spid states 127"...... My question for you fine folks is what should I be looking for to see if it was done properly when I crawl under it later today? Also any other concerns I should have because of this mod? Thanks!

07-13-2013, 09:37 AM	#2
cdowns Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: daytonabeach Posts: 22,956	Re: Is a cut down longbed a bad decision?!! an extensive road test to see if it runs drives and stops straight is an excellent idea// somebody following it to see how it looks goin down the road and to make sure it does not crabwalk down the highway personally you could not give me one __________________ 71c-10 350/2004r/4:11 lowered3/4 longbed/dead by hurricane MEANING OF DEATH::::: SOMEBODY ELSE GETS YOUR STUFF DONT BELIEVE EVERYTHING YOU THINK TAKE MY ADVISE;I DON'T USE IT ANYWAY

07-13-2013, 09:43 AM	#3
BLACKLINE61 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: a****er ca Posts: 43	Re: Is a cut down longbed a bad decision?!! heres the truck

07-13-2013, 09:47 AM	#4
Lee H Registered User Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Upland Ca Posts: 4,143	Re: Is a cut down longbed a bad decision?!! If it was done right a shortened truck can be a great value. IMHO, if they z'ed and fish plated the fame and used a real short bed it could be a great buy. If they just butt welded the frame and hacked up the bed it would not make my list. Posted via Mobile Device __________________ 1972 C10 SWB, Air, PS, PB, 350/350THM. Second owner. 1965 Corvette roadster, 44K miles, 327/365 SHP, 4 speed, side exhaust, knockoffs, teak, second owner (bought in 1970), Have ALL numbers matching components. My frame off restoration thread: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=556703

07-13-2013, 09:53 AM	#5
STOCKISH Formerly- 1972SuperCheyenne Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Wake Forest NC Posts: 5,782	Re: Is a cut down longbed a bad decision?!! I agree with ^^, If done properly, sure why not. If the fab work is junky, then I would keep looking. __________________ --Josh My Build Thread:http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=799218 A good crossthread is better than Loctite any day. Life is not about what you have, but who you have to share it with.

07-13-2013, 10:03 AM	#6
Rufton Registered User Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Knoxville TN Posts: 1,170	Re: Is a cut down longbed a bad decision?!! Looks sweet. Sounds scary. Could you post detailed pics and info about frame splice? If splice looks strong and professional I would do a frame flex test and alignment check before making offer. If splice is questionable I'd consider low ball and have a wizard pro welder double check and strengthen if needed. Maybe a less informed soul will snatch it up in the meantime.

07-13-2013, 10:15 AM	#7
Husker Registered User Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Mid NE USA Posts: 2,212	Re: Is a cut down longbed a bad decision?!! No different than someone C-Notching the frame and lowering it. Ron __________________ Member #111 68 C-10 Daily Driver 70 4x4 Project 76 Jeep CJ-5 Help Support the Board: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/payments.php He who knows nothing is closer to the truth than he whose mind is filled with falsehoods and errors. Thomas Jefferson

07-13-2013, 05:01 PM	#11
BLACKLINE61 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: a****er ca Posts: 43	Re: Is a cut down longbed a bad decision?!! Thanks for the input guys! I'm inclined to follow the check it out and roll with it as long as it looks legit crowd on this one.... Since it seems to come down to personal opinion rather than a definite reason not to... and honestly frame mods don't frighten me too much (I've bagged and notched a few vehicles myself over the years) Thanks again

07-13-2013, 05:47 PM	#12
Hubscrub Cruzin Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: on the road Posts: 2,835	Re: Is a cut down longbed a bad decision?!! as long as it checks out why not? they do it to big rigs all the time __________________ Lime Wife's 67https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...wZEMODaS2d94u8 Back to the Fifties 59 https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...NAeStpydfrcj_U Proverbs 3:5,6 "Thanks to the Interstate Highway System, it is now possible to travel across the country from coast to coast without seeing anything."Charles Kuralt In memory of our first baby daughter, daddy and mommy love you. Danica Grace 6/26/14

07-13-2013, 07:47 PM	#14
cdowns Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: daytonabeach Posts: 22,956	Re: Is a cut down longbed a bad decision?!! of course if it "looks good" it "MIGHT" b good the way you really find out it aint so good is ifin you hit a bump at 60MPH an the thing cums apart in pieces "DO YA FEEL LUCKY" __________________ 71c-10 350/2004r/4:11 lowered3/4 longbed/dead by hurricane MEANING OF DEATH::::: SOMEBODY ELSE GETS YOUR STUFF DONT BELIEVE EVERYTHING YOU THINK TAKE MY ADVISE;I DON'T USE IT ANYWAY

07-13-2013, 07:49 PM	#15
JointTech Registered User Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Mission Viejo, CA Posts: 1,856	Re: Is a cut down longbed a bad decision?!! id probably buy one assuming it looked ok and tracked straight. Im going to cut one on my next build. swb are to expensive and im not keeping anything original. I think if you are all hot and bothered by it having all the original stuff for a super then having a non matching spid might not be what you want. __________________ 72 C20 Long Bed SB350 TH400 14 bolt rear end Extremely boring build thread

07-13-2013, 07:51 PM	#16
lolife99 67-72 parts collector,… Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Mid-MO Posts: 22,696	Re: Is a cut down longbed a bad decision?!! No one said the frame was cut. Just assumed. Could have been body swapped to a factory short wheelbase frame. Let us know what you find out. It looks like a nice truck. __________________ Keith Convert to disc brakes. http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=444823

07-13-2013, 11:20 PM	#17
bentshank Registered User Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: spokane missouri Posts: 8	Re: Is a cut down longbed a bad decision?!! I am fairly new to the sight, but have had alot of these Trucks. There is nothing at all wrong with a truck that has been shortened If done correctly. In many cases the frames were not as straight from the factory as they Are after being shortened. Also if that truck is as nice as it looks with all the equipment On it , buy it and if it bothers you that its been cut find you a factory uncut short frame. I've switched them over in a weekend. Problem solved. Posted via Mobile Device

07-14-2013, 04:14 AM	#18
junkyard Registered User Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: OAKDALE, CALIFORNIA Posts: 166	Re: Is a cut down longbed a bad decision?!! I have one. Just cut straight down and welded back together. Can't imagine it ever being an issue. I also have a International 3 axle truck with a lengthened frame (2 welds per side) and it carries 50,000 lbs. I'd buy it.

07-14-2013, 11:09 AM	#19
Andy4639 Old member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Liberty, & Garden City S.C. , U.S. Posts: 19,936	Re: Is a cut down longbed a bad decision?!! I'm going to put my 2 cents in here as I have done before. If the work is done right then there is no issue with the frame. That's on any mod done to any vehicle. These trucks are harder and harder to find that some one hasn't done something to them. Now for me I wouldn't buy it for one reason. Paper work! Insurance is my main concern. If the truck is in a wreck and they investagate it because of injury to another person then u may have all kinds of head aches with it. I know a lot of u will disagree but in the real world a lawyer for someone injured will find everything he can to say it was the trucks owner who was at fault for modifying a vehicle from the orignal way it came from the factory. This is why I haven't notched my 71 frame. Auto manufactures have fedral laws that they have to follow when building vehicles and as aftermarket companies do to. can you do it yes and hopefully never have anything go wrong but for me it's not worth it. This is the only reason why I would never have one. __________________ 1971 LWB Custom, 6.0LS & 4L80E, Speedhut.com GPS speedometer & gauges with A/C. 20" Boss 338's Grey wheels 4 wheel disc brakes. My Driver Seeing the USA in a 71 Upstate SC GM Truck Club 2013,14 and 2016 Hot Rod Pour Tour http://upstategmtrucks.com/ Get out and drive the truck this summer and have some fun! It sucks not being able to hear! LWB trucks rule, if you don't think so measure your SWB! After talking to tech support at Air Lift I have found out that the kit I need is 60811. Per the measurements I gave them. Ride height of truck inside spring and inside diameter of springs.



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07-14-2013, 11:22 AM	#20
Barcobear Registered User Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: A****er, CA Posts: 44	Re: Is a cut down longbed a bad decision?!! That truck was not cut down. They put the cab on a short bed frame. The C-10 King had already checked it out.

07-14-2013, 12:20 PM	#22
19673ontree CAN'T FIX NOTHIN Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: SOUTHRUST VIRGINIA !!! Posts: 2,112	Re: Is a cut down longbed a bad decision?!! This debate will probably rage on forever , its like this long bed trucks are in the same realm as 4 door car's but with the trucks we have the option to shorten them and make them into a short bed this can be a GOOD thing it can also be a BAD thing the problem is that a short bed is WORTH MORE MONEY ! thus it causes people that don't know what they are doing to shorten long beds trying to make money and it comes back on the poor guy that ends up with a hack job ! here is a thread a guy posted a while back he did it correctly and would I like to own the truck in this thread YES I WOULD ! take a look at how you SHOULD SHORTEN A LONGBED ! http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...=peach+orchard __________________ 1967 C10 Shortbed Fleetside Small back glass 6 cyl 3spd on the tree 3.08 gears underdash AC

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