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dinnut · 12-02-2003, 09:23 PM

http://store.summitracing.com/produc...earchtype=ecat

they sell the front AND REAR swaybar setup for our trucks

1971LT1SWBPOSI373 · 12-02-2003, 11:41 PM

Any ride reports out there???

cableguy0 · 12-02-2003, 11:52 PM

rear sway bars are great unless your making a bunch of power and you actually traction but a front bar on these trucks is a must have i think thats almost a better improvement than the 400+ horse small block (i said almost)

dinnut · 12-03-2003, 02:17 AM

ttt

lukecp · 12-03-2003, 02:51 AM

I've also seen those.....wondering how much the rear helps handling?
I still don't have a front one yet, lol. It is on my list after the rearend swap....

JJR · 12-03-2003, 09:51 AM

My brother-in-law bought a set for his 65 C-10 but did not like they way they mounted and I ended up selling them for him on this board. The front bar does not mount like the original GM bar. It mounts directly to the frame (good for lowered trucks) and uses end links instead of bolting directly to the lower control arms. The rear bar seemed like it would hang low. The person I sold them to mounted them on his nice stepside truck and loved them. To me, spending over $100 on a front bar is to much money. At the local u-pull-it I can get front sway bars (any size, I tend to get 1-1/4") for under $20 and you can get new frame brackets from GM or ECE for $20 and poly bushings which comes with caps from Energy Suspension for under $30.

SWEET7T · 12-03-2003, 04:55 PM

I'm with JJR!!!
For a front bar, just hit the junkyard. I did that --> $20 for bar, $25 for brackets from ECE, and $11 for new bushings. Got it put on over Thanksgiving break (what a pain in the butt) but I love the results. Stupid rivits... stupid stupid stupid rivits

Frank_Zeller · 12-03-2003, 07:19 PM

Brothers runs a special about every 6 months on the rear ADCO sway bar 99.00 plus shipping. Got one but have not installed it yet.

67gmcss · 12-03-2003, 07:38 PM

any years besides a 67-72 a direct bolt-on (or as little work as possible) for our trucks up front? those years are too hard to come by around here

dinnut · 12-03-2003, 11:07 PM

i think everyone uses the 73-87 (???) 3/4 ton ones but im not sure

JJR · 12-03-2003, 11:31 PM

dinnut is correct. I tend to find the big bar (1-1/4") on mid 70's 3/4 and 1 tons. Some 3/4 tons I have seen only have a 1-1/8" bar. If you currently don't have a bar any size (1-1/16", 1-1/8",1-1/4") will be a huge improvement. Right now I have four 1-1/4" bars. I will probably post a couple of them for sale soon. For future reference, here are the Energy Suspension part numbers for truck geaseable sway bar bushings (black).

1-1/16 3.5175G
1-1/8 3.5176G
1-1/4 3.5177G

sactoC10 · 12-05-2003, 02:22 PM

Anyone have a picture of one of these Hellwig rear bars mounted to one of our trucks? What about the Addco rear bar, it seems to mount a bit higher. I am very curious about both.

Ackattack · 12-05-2003, 02:27 PM

I'm planning to install new polyurethane bushings this weekend. Anyone know where to get Moog bushings?

Too bad they don't make a rear one for leaf spring trucks. Oh well, I'll probably make one someday out of something.

Hotrod70C10 · 12-05-2003, 02:55 PM

You can get moog bushings at any auto parts store.

Frank_Zeller · 12-05-2003, 03:35 PM

Adco Rear. Someones truck on the board?

lewi · 12-05-2003, 04:00 PM

I just want to say thanks to all those who have posted info regarding the front sway bars. Sweet7t apperently is a better negotiater than I am. the junk yard wanted $70 fror the bar and brackets, I talked them down to $60, went to the parts store and picked up the Moog Bushings (4) and that ran me $27. Went to the Hardware store to get the grade 8 bolts that was about $8. So for under $100 I was done but a bit more than others have paid. Welcome to California.

lewi · 12-05-2003, 04:04 PM

oh the rivets.....the first one pi$$ed me off after grinding the head off and it getting stuck and not wanting to come out I drilled a 5/16" hole up thru the middle of it and out it came. The second one I did the same and it was out in less than 10 minutes (drilled before I started pounding on it).

cableguy0 · 12-05-2003, 07:27 PM

i didnt have the removal problems you guys had i used a torch to remove the rivets. go the brackets and the bar for 20 bucks and then used the greaseable energy suspension bushings the whole deal cost me like 50 bucks so i was happy.

MR. GOODWRENCH · 12-05-2003, 09:49 PM

Frank,that is my truck with the rear swaybar,it is an addco brand and it came from brothers,here is a picture from about 4 months ago.

MR. GOODWRENCH · 12-05-2003, 09:52 PM

also have one on my GMC,I bought this swaybar from TEEITUP,and it is the same as the one from brothers,so I believe it is an Addco brand too.

FRENCHBLUE72 · 12-05-2003, 10:53 PM

I am guessing that you may not be able to run a rear bar with bag's????? Look's like the link's would bind up??

dinnut · 12-06-2003, 01:18 AM

i dont know. i see now how they mount... never really seen one before

lukecp · 12-06-2003, 01:48 AM

So here is my question.....

How much did the addition of a rear bar improve handling over only a front bar? Are they worth the $140?

Frank_Zeller · 12-08-2003, 11:33 AM

I installed the rear ADCO sway bar. Defiantly worth the effort. It really works. With the 1.25 in front and 7/8 rear seems to be balance petty good. I need to add quicker ratio steering. Best example would be sharply pulling into a parking spot. Before the rear would kick up on one corner. Now it stays flat. Feels a lot better going down the highway.

12-02-2003, 09:23 PM	#1
dinnut Registered User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: missouri city, tx Posts: 4,486	new front and rear sway bars at summit http://store.summitracing.com/produc...earchtype=ecat they sell the front AND REAR swaybar setup for our trucks __________________ 70 longbed 496/th400/Ford 9"

12-02-2003, 11:41 PM	#2
1971LT1SWBPOSI373 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Springfield, VA Posts: 460	re Any ride reports out there??? __________________ 1971 Shortbed 350/350 w/ Posi-traction 3:73's 1996 Chevy Silverado TJ in Springfield, Virginia Likes old Chevy trucks Drinks Miller MGD

12-02-2003, 11:52 PM	#3
cableguy0 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Delta,Pa Posts: 14,948	rear sway bars are great unless your making a bunch of power and you actually traction but a front bar on these trucks is a must have i think thats almost a better improvement than the 400+ horse small block (i said almost) __________________ Owner of North Point Car Care in Dundalk Md. We specialize in custom exhaust on both modern and classic vehicles. We are a full service auto shop from classics to modern vehicles. Feel free to contact me with questions. I will give a 10% discount to any board member.

12-03-2003, 02:17 AM	#4
dinnut Registered User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: missouri city, tx Posts: 4,486	ttt __________________ 70 longbed 496/th400/Ford 9"

12-03-2003, 02:51 AM	#5
lukecp Formerly yellow72custom Join Date: May 2001 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 7,531	I've also seen those.....wondering how much the rear helps handling? I still don't have a front one yet, lol. It is on my list after the rearend swap.... __________________ '72 Chevy C10 Mild 350/TH350/3.07. Ochre/White. Old high school ride. '70 GMC C2500 '62 327 4bbl/SM465/4.56-geared Dana 60. White/White. Project or parts truck. '97 Saturn SL DD. 1.9/5-speed. 40+ highway mpg

12-03-2003, 09:51 AM	#6
JJR Registered User Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Leesburg, GA Posts: 746	My brother-in-law bought a set for his 65 C-10 but did not like they way they mounted and I ended up selling them for him on this board. The front bar does not mount like the original GM bar. It mounts directly to the frame (good for lowered trucks) and uses end links instead of bolting directly to the lower control arms. The rear bar seemed like it would hang low. The person I sold them to mounted them on his nice stepside truck and loved them. To me, spending over $100 on a front bar is to much money. At the local u-pull-it I can get front sway bars (any size, I tend to get 1-1/4") for under $20 and you can get new frame brackets from GM or ECE for $20 and poly bushings which comes with caps from Energy Suspension for under $30. __________________ FOUNDING MEMBER OF THE DRUM BRAKE CLUB Second Owner 70 C-10 Second Owner 93 GMC C1500 Third Owner 99 C2500 Crew Cab Short Bed

12-03-2003, 04:55 PM	#7
SWEET7T Try spinnin 4 rear tars Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Salt Lake City, Utah Posts: 757	I'm with JJR!!! For a front bar, just hit the junkyard. I did that --> $20 for bar, $25 for brackets from ECE, and $11 for new bushings. Got it put on over Thanksgiving break (what a pain in the butt) but I love the results. Stupid rivits... stupid stupid stupid rivits __________________ SWEET7T 1970 C10, 2wd, LB, 307/TH350/3.08. PS, PB

12-03-2003, 07:19 PM	#8
Frank_Zeller Registered User Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Austin, Texas Posts: 796	Brothers runs a special about every 6 months on the rear ADCO sway bar 99.00 plus shipping. Got one but have not installed it yet. __________________ 69 SWB C/10 5-6 drop 700R4 69 Firebird Convert 455 4 spd 70 Torino GT Convert Austin-Texas Last edited by Frank_Zeller; 12-03-2003 at 07:46 PM.

12-03-2003, 07:38 PM	#9
67gmcss Registered User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: somerset,kentucky,usa Posts: 154	any years besides a 67-72 a direct bolt-on (or as little work as possible) for our trucks up front? those years are too hard to come by around here

12-03-2003, 11:07 PM	#10
dinnut Registered User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: missouri city, tx Posts: 4,486	i think everyone uses the 73-87 (???) 3/4 ton ones but im not sure __________________ 70 longbed 496/th400/Ford 9"

12-03-2003, 11:31 PM	#11
JJR Registered User Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Leesburg, GA Posts: 746	dinnut is correct. I tend to find the big bar (1-1/4") on mid 70's 3/4 and 1 tons. Some 3/4 tons I have seen only have a 1-1/8" bar. If you currently don't have a bar any size (1-1/16", 1-1/8",1-1/4") will be a huge improvement. Right now I have four 1-1/4" bars. I will probably post a couple of them for sale soon. For future reference, here are the Energy Suspension part numbers for truck geaseable sway bar bushings (black). 1-1/16 3.5175G 1-1/8 3.5176G 1-1/4 3.5177G __________________ FOUNDING MEMBER OF THE DRUM BRAKE CLUB Second Owner 70 C-10 Second Owner 93 GMC C1500 Third Owner 99 C2500 Crew Cab Short Bed

12-05-2003, 02:22 PM	#12
sactoC10 71 DELUX Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Northern CA / Sac Posts: 1,055	Hellwig picture? Anyone have a picture of one of these Hellwig rear bars mounted to one of our trucks? What about the Addco rear bar, it seems to mount a bit higher. I am very curious about both.

12-05-2003, 02:27 PM	#13
Ackattack Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Valley Center KS Posts: 3,524	I'm planning to install new polyurethane bushings this weekend. Anyone know where to get Moog bushings? Too bad they don't make a rear one for leaf spring trucks. Oh well, I'll probably make one someday out of something. __________________ Project Bruiser: 68 Pro-Touring C-10 5.3L / 4L60E Project Ironhide: 97 GMC Crew Cab 4x4 Cummins SOLD: '69 GMC 1/2T SWB TBI'd: Project No Buck Assembly Manual Index Sign up Thread!!! Factory Service Manual Index

12-05-2003, 02:55 PM	#14
Hotrod70C10 Low & Slow Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 1,047	You can get moog bushings at any auto parts store. __________________ 70' C-10 LWB Fleetside 4.5/6 drop

12-05-2003, 03:35 PM	#15
Frank_Zeller Registered User Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Austin, Texas Posts: 796	Adco Rear. Someones truck on the board? Attached Images __________________ 69 SWB C/10 5-6 drop 700R4 69 Firebird Convert 455 4 spd 70 Torino GT Convert Austin-Texas



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12-05-2003, 04:00 PM	#16
lewi Registered User Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Redding California Posts: 223	I just want to say thanks to all those who have posted info regarding the front sway bars. Sweet7t apperently is a better negotiater than I am. the junk yard wanted $70 fror the bar and brackets, I talked them down to $60, went to the parts store and picked up the Moog Bushings (4) and that ran me $27. Went to the Hardware store to get the grade 8 bolts that was about $8. So for under $100 I was done but a bit more than others have paid. Welcome to California. __________________ 1971 Chevy Cheyenne 383/350 LWB 2wd Built to use, and look good.

12-05-2003, 04:04 PM	#17
lewi Registered User Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Redding California Posts: 223	oh the rivets.....the first one pi$$ed me off after grinding the head off and it getting stuck and not wanting to come out I drilled a 5/16" hole up thru the middle of it and out it came. The second one I did the same and it was out in less than 10 minutes (drilled before I started pounding on it). __________________ 1971 Chevy Cheyenne 383/350 LWB 2wd Built to use, and look good.

12-05-2003, 07:27 PM	#18
cableguy0 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Delta,Pa Posts: 14,948	i didnt have the removal problems you guys had i used a torch to remove the rivets. go the brackets and the bar for 20 bucks and then used the greaseable energy suspension bushings the whole deal cost me like 50 bucks so i was happy. __________________ Owner of North Point Car Care in Dundalk Md. We specialize in custom exhaust on both modern and classic vehicles. We are a full service auto shop from classics to modern vehicles. Feel free to contact me with questions. I will give a 10% discount to any board member.

12-05-2003, 09:49 PM	#19
MR. GOODWRENCH Registered User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Maryville,TN Posts: 402	Frank,that is my truck with the rear swaybar,it is an addco brand and it came from brothers,here is a picture from about 4 months ago. Attached Images __________________ 68 CST SWB,full off frame restoration,72 GMC Sierra Grande SWB,72 Cheyenne 30 long wheelbase flatbed,2000 4door Chevy Dually bought new,2002 SS Camaro with 600 miles,bought it to put up,72 Monte Carlo,it was my first car,69 Impala with 50,000 miles,it was my dads,89 Dodge diseal 3/4 ton 4 wheel drive,my dad bought it new,68 Camaro RS dragcar,97 United Transporters 25 foot enclosed trailer,58 Oliver Super 77 Diseal,my grandfather bought new fully restored,55 Oliver Super 66 Diseal my uncle bought new,49 Oliver Rowcrop 88,51 Farmall H,51 Farmall Super C,81 Ford 3600,89 Ford 6610,49 Allis Chalmers WD45,81 Allis Chalmers 7060 my dad bought new,Allis Chalmers 175.

12-05-2003, 09:52 PM	#20
MR. GOODWRENCH Registered User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Maryville,TN Posts: 402	also have one on my GMC,I bought this swaybar from TEEITUP,and it is the same as the one from brothers,so I believe it is an Addco brand too. Attached Images __________________ 68 CST SWB,full off frame restoration,72 GMC Sierra Grande SWB,72 Cheyenne 30 long wheelbase flatbed,2000 4door Chevy Dually bought new,2002 SS Camaro with 600 miles,bought it to put up,72 Monte Carlo,it was my first car,69 Impala with 50,000 miles,it was my dads,89 Dodge diseal 3/4 ton 4 wheel drive,my dad bought it new,68 Camaro RS dragcar,97 United Transporters 25 foot enclosed trailer,58 Oliver Super 77 Diseal,my grandfather bought new fully restored,55 Oliver Super 66 Diseal my uncle bought new,49 Oliver Rowcrop 88,51 Farmall H,51 Farmall Super C,81 Ford 3600,89 Ford 6610,49 Allis Chalmers WD45,81 Allis Chalmers 7060 my dad bought new,Allis Chalmers 175.

12-05-2003, 10:53 PM	#21
FRENCHBLUE72 PROJECT 7DEUCE Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: GRANTS PASS OR Posts: 21,606	I am guessing that you may not be able to run a rear bar with bag's????? Look's like the link's would bind up?? __________________ GO BIG GREEN GO DUCKS MEMBER #6377 72 k-5 daily driver 6'' lift 35'' 350-350-205 slowly getting rust free. Project "7DEUCE" check out my build http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=267665 Tim Powell..R.I.P EastSideLowlife..... R.I.P..

12-06-2003, 01:18 AM	#22
dinnut Registered User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: missouri city, tx Posts: 4,486	i dont know. i see now how they mount... never really seen one before __________________ 70 longbed 496/th400/Ford 9"

12-06-2003, 01:48 AM	#23
lukecp Formerly yellow72custom Join Date: May 2001 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 7,531	So here is my question..... How much did the addition of a rear bar improve handling over only a front bar? Are they worth the $140? __________________ '72 Chevy C10 Mild 350/TH350/3.07. Ochre/White. Old high school ride. '70 GMC C2500 '62 327 4bbl/SM465/4.56-geared Dana 60. White/White. Project or parts truck. '97 Saturn SL DD. 1.9/5-speed. 40+ highway mpg

12-08-2003, 11:33 AM	#24
Frank_Zeller Registered User Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Austin, Texas Posts: 796	I installed the rear ADCO sway bar. Defiantly worth the effort. It really works. With the 1.25 in front and 7/8 rear seems to be balance petty good. I need to add quicker ratio steering. Best example would be sharply pulling into a parking spot. Before the rear would kick up on one corner. Now it stays flat. Feels a lot better going down the highway. __________________ 69 SWB C/10 5-6 drop 700R4 69 Firebird Convert 455 4 spd 70 Torino GT Convert Austin-Texas

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