03-23-2012, 09:35 AM | #1 |
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Grill swap
Has anyone done a swap from a 79'-80' grill to a 73'-78' style. Im looking at doing this because the older grill's look more classic to me but not sure if I can just swap bezels and trim.
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Re: Grill swap
I had a '76 grille in my '80 so I know that all the '75-'80 grilles will swap, but 73-74 grilles require changing the top radiator support panel, upper and lower latch assembly and side brackets for it all to work properly. This is for CHEVY trucks. I've been told that GMC's kept the early style supports until '75 or '76 but I do not know exactly. Maybe someone else can chime in here?
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Re: Grill swap
Thank you for your response.
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Re: Grill swap
when swapping headlight bezels the grille to bumper filler panel is different. I think there is 2 maybe 3 different ones.
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Re: Grill swap
i have an 80 and i went to 73-78 bezles. you also need the lower grill trim and i dont know if you need the turn signals but it grabbed them too because they had a trim ring
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The core/ratiator support is the same 73-80 (except for 80 deluxe appearance package (square headlight) trucks), but may differ slightly because of options and have differant welded nut locations (differant cooling options, with or without a/c, 1 or 2 horns and wiring loom holder location). Some, ie very few, 77(?)-80 have an inside hood latch as option and have a differant core support as a result. BTW if you have an inside hood latch, the catch on the hood is differant also. The lower filler piece is the same 73-78. The 79-80 (80 round headlights only) lower piece is the same physically, but has holes for the wider chrome trim. 2 mintes with a drill and a 79-80 chrome piece will fit on a 73-78 lower filler. The 1980 deluxe appearance package (square headlight) trucks) use their own lower filler. Headlight surrounds will interchange 73-78 and 79-80 (80 round headlights only) but have differant painted/polish/non-polished inserts depending on year/options. The 1980 deluxe appearance package (square headlight) trucks) use their own headlight bezels. The upper chrome piece is the same 73-80. The lower chrome is the same 73-78 and 79-80 are the same, but wider. 73-80 turn lenses will interchange (except for 80 deluxe appearance package (square headlight) trucks), but 73-74's are orange with 1157 (clear) bulb, 75-80 are clear lenses with 1157A (amber) bulb. 73-78 may or may not have stainless trim, just depends on options. 79-80 (80 non-deluxe appearance package (square headlight) trucks) all take clear lense, no trim, 1157a (amber) bulb. The 1980 deluxe appearance package (square headlight) trucks) use their own turn lense which is clear and 1157a bulb. The headlight harness will interchange 73-80 (80 non-deluxe appearance package (square headlight) trucks) but may differ slightly depending on year/options/loom holder location. The 1980 deluxe appearance package (square headlight) trucks) use their own wiring harness. The differance is the headlight plugs but will work with alittle fuss. 1980 deluxe appearance package (square headlight) trucks are basicly their own cookie. But the complete package (core support, wiring harness, headligts, turn lenses, lower filler piece etc) will work in any 73-80 truck with round headlights. Now if you have a 1980 deluxe appearance package (square headlight) truck and don't like it, you can change over to the round headlights with just changing the bezels, lower filler, headlight buckets and complete turn lense assembly. I should note that SOME 80 round headlight trucks HAD both set of holes for both round and square headlights. BUT I am unsure if these were deluxe appearance trucks that were changed to round headlights or GM just used what they had when they assembled the trucks new. I have personlly have changed 3 80 square headligh trucks over to round healights do to the unavailablity of square headlight parts. The square headlight (deluxe appearance package) was availble on all 1980 trucks blazers and suburbans. You could have a plain jane custom deluxe truck and still get the square headlights. ALSO it is possible to have a hard loaded Silverado and delete the square headlight option. I have had one of those trucks and could verify its history, but it is in no way common. While we are on frontends... The inner fenders are basicly the same 73-80. But these vary alittle do to options. With or without jacks, jack tools, with or without heater (fyi, heater trucks have an extra hole for the heater hose holder), single or dual batteries etc. The fenders are basicly the same between 73-80. Back in the day, there was actually 2 fenders, one plain jain and one with the common stainless strips. The stainless strip fenders had factory holes for the metal clips that held the stainless trim on. The later fender was discontinued as soon as the 81's were being built. The hoods fit 73-78 and 79-80. The 73-78's were flat accoss the front and the 79-80's had the rasied portion alon the front. The 73-78 hood will replace the 79-80 or 79-80 will replace 73-78. As far as I know, the 73-78 hood was discontinued as soon as the 79's were being built. Trucks with factory hood emblem of course had holes for that... Now PLEASE remember this... These trucks are now 32-39 years old this year. Your truck could be differant because of parts that have been replaced in the past. Last edited by esbstuff; 07-18-2012 at 11:17 PM. |
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Re: Grill swap
Very nice. This helps a lot.TY
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Re: Grill swap
Was just wondering if you ever did the swap? I've been considering doing the same with mine, I love the 73 grille and bezels just the who look of the front clip. I'm trying to get a list together but I'm hearing so many thing I'm not sure.
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esbstuff, While your post is very informative...... '76 wasn't a one year only grille and '73-'74 were the only two years for the deep/recessed grille..... Compliments to N2TRUX;
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Re: Grill swap
Thanks for the writeup, ESBSTUFF! I have a question though. I have a 77GMC that I will be doing the square headlight swap on. You stated that the core supports are different. Are the differences only in the headlight area and concerning the spring and adjuster locations? Or are there more. I have all the parts needed for the swap.
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